Athlon XP or Intel P4 Northwood?

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: bfdd
Hmm why not just try to use Moka5 with a win95 install( if it's compatable? ) and emulate in your normal os? Should still be faster than an old retro rig heh.

Where can I run the V5 though? The main purpose is to get that card running.

 

[Gikaseixas]

i would go with a northwood. I Had a XP 3000+ that could not beat my Northwood 3.0 ghz.

 

[bfdd]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: bfdd
Hmm why not just try to use Moka5 with a win95 install( if it's compatable? ) and emulate in your normal os? Should still be faster than an old retro rig heh.

Where can I run the V5 though? The main purpose is to get that card running.

Well if you just want to run old hardware I guess it's cool *shrug* I'd just try to find a way to emulate heh.

 

[SlowSpyder]

If I remember right the Athlon XP's and P4 Northwoods were pretty close at a given speed/PR rating up the upper 2Ghz range or so. For example an Athlon XP 2800+ was pretty close to a P4 Northwood @ 2.8ghz. But, AMD ran out of raw clock speed and the P4's above 3Ghz were faster then the AMD chips that were PR rated at 3000+... a P4 Northwood at 3.2Ghz was generally faster then an Athlon XP 3200+. Just make sure you get a P4 Northwood that uses an 800mhz fsb. Otherwise get any Athlon XP that has 512KB of L2 cache and over clock it.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
If I remember right the Athlon XP's and P4 Northwoods were pretty close at a given speed/PR rating up the upper 2Ghz range or so. For example an Athlon XP 2800+ was pretty close to a P4 Northwood @ 2.8ghz. But, AMD ran out of raw clock speed and the P4's above 3Ghz were faster then the AMD chips that were PR rated at 3000+... a P4 Northwood at 3.2Ghz was generally faster then an Athlon XP 3200+. Just make sure you get a P4 Northwood that uses an 800mhz fsb. Otherwise get any Athlon XP that has 512KB of L2 cache and over clock it.

The Athlon XP PR system became out of whack when the the P4-Cs with 800FSB/HT were launched. The P4 2.8C was just as fast as the XP 3200+, for example. I recall Anandtech called AMD out on it at the time. Of course AMD's official line was that the PR system was to rate it against old Thunderbird Athlons (LOL) and not against P4s... thats a line worthy of Baghdad Bob.

That said, AMD made amends when the A64 came out, and the A64 3200+ was indeed generally as fast or faster than a P4 3.2C/3.2E as the name implied (with the exception of video encoding performance, which P4s continued to dominate)

 

[taltamir]

anyone here tried retro gaming on a vmware virtual machine?

 

[nyker96]

yeah I say XP. was the king of the hill back then, what a chip, hot as well not to forget but not as bad as P4s.

 

[Spike]

How would a AthlonXP 2500+ @ 2.2ghz (Barton @ 3200+ speeds) compare to the P4's? I have a complete setup with the Abit NF7-S 2.0, BFG 6800GT, 1GB DDR400 and a 250gb that I want to sell. Someone at work is interested but currently has a P4 2.53 (Skt 478) and wants to know if the AthlonXP would be faster. I said yes overall though maybe a tie in video encoding.

Did I lie?

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed

Originally posted by: jaqie

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
With Athlon XP you're limited to Socket A mounting which can't take large heatsinks.

I am not trying to be rude, but BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You weren't around during the days of the AXIA, were you? Behold the PAL8045. And swiftech made the infamous MC462A which was similar, made with different manufacturing techniques.

Try fitting Scythe Ninja size heatsink on SocketA. Didn't think so. Unless the motherboard is of one of those rare types that have extra mounting holes around the socket.

The SCNJ-1000 is 665grams, the PAL8045 is 520g so the weight is not far off. You did have to use the extra mounting holes but I don't remember those being all that rare. I used one for a long time (sucking of course) until I replaced it with a Thermalright SI-92 or something like that. Long live the Alpha!

 

[lopri]

I had a Northwood on i850E chipset at that time..