Athlon XP 2200+'s (1.8GHz) This Quarter, Before Thoroughbred 2400+?

[AGodspeed]

http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/BAS/tech-2002/id31315552.cfm

Slide 9 of 30 clearly indicates that AMD will be releasing a .18u Athlon XP 2200+ (1.8GHz) this quarter before releasing the Thoroughbred processors in Q2 (starting with the 2400+, which I'm guessing would be 1.93GHz).

If you look at the roadmap a bit more closely, you'll see that AMD is claiming that they released the Athlon XP 2000+ last year during Q4. Even though there was a review or two around in the last week of December 2001 (Q4), Newegg and the rest of the online hardware retailers never had 2000+'s in stock or shipping. Around the week Northwood launched in early January 2002, 2000+'s started arriving.

Assuming that a similar situation will occur with the .18u Athlon XP 2200+ (1.8GHz) in the April (very beginning of Q2), we should be expecting 1.93GHz Thoroughbreds in the May timeframe.

Unless AMD releases a 2200+ .18u Athlon XP in the next few weeks, I'm guessing Thoroughbred is going to appear no earlier than mid to late Q2 2002.

Am I the ONLY Person That Noticed This?

Have a nice day.

 

[AGodspeed]

Am I the ONLY Person That Noticed This?

I guess so.

 

[Rand]

<< http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/BAS/tech-2002/id31315552.cfm

Slide 9 of 30 clearly indicates that AMD will be releasing a .18u Athlon XP 2200+ (1.8GHz) this quarter before releasing the Thoroughbred processors in Q2 (starting with the 2400+, which I'm guessing would be 1.93GHz).

If you look at the roadmap a bit more closely, you'll see that AMD is claiming that they released the Athlon XP 2000+ last year during Q4. Even though there was a review or two around in the last week of December 2001 (Q4), Newegg and the rest of the online hardware retailers never had 2000+'s in stock or shipping. Around the week Northwood launched in early January 2002, 2000+'s started arriving.

Assuming that a similar situation will occur with the .18u Athlon XP 2200+ (1.8GHz) in the April (very beginning of Q2), we should be expecting 1.93GHz Thoroughbreds in the May timeframe.

Unless AMD releases a 2200+ .18u Athlon XP in the next few weeks, I'm guessing Thoroughbred is going to appear no earlier than mid to late Q2 2002.

Am I the ONLY Person That Noticed This?

Have a nice day. >>



Not the only person, many people likely didnt post because it's nothing new. AMD has been saying as much for quite some time now.
I only found the telecast early this morning however and havent had time to peruse it for info as yet, anything new/interesting revealed?

Just a few really brief comments...:
I'll refrain from further analysis/comments until I read their latest telecast and check out any discrepancies between it and their current status and last telecast.

I suspect you may be right about 2200+ in April, though I imagine for competitive reasons AMD will try to push it out at least a month before that if at all possible.
This first half of 2002 before ClawHammer comes and before they recieve the extra headroom of .13u will be the most dangerous for AMD in their battles against Intel... it wouldnt do to let their apparent 'MHz' differential grow too large, nor can they afford to fall too far behind in real performance once P4 goes to 533MHz FSB.

2400+ Thoroughbred may be most likely for June I think... but again I suspect AMD will try to push it out at least a month before then if at all possible.


PS. Notice US Bancorp Piper Jaffray analyst Ashok Kumar has been most quiet about AMD of late?
Typically he is the first to jump on their case, even when they are at their best.
I was expecting him to go on another rampage claiming AMD is "road kill" again with the NorthWood release.

 

[AGodspeed]

Not the only person, many people likely didnt post because it's nothing new. AMD has been saying as much for quite some time now.
I only found the telecast early this morning however and havent had time to peruse it for info as yet, anything new/interesting revealed?

AMD officially announced that they are in the middle of validating/debugging ClawHammer CPU's, and expect to send them to OEMs in the 2Q. They also mention that the .13u conversation is going smoothly, but they've said that before. They've also said before that their die size advantage will be a common theme in future AMD CPU's.

They also still clearly have a ClawHammer 3400+ positioned for Q4 of this year, on top of a 2800+ Thoroughbred.

And besides the UMC announcement today, that's about it.

 

[KenAF]

AGodSpeed,

I linked to a nearly identical roadmap many times before in our discussion threads...you just now took a peek? The version from the Banc of America presentation is slightly different...it adds an M2800 Athlon in the 4Q 2001, whereas no Athlons above M2600 were shown before.

That roadmap follows the same pattern as the three roadmaps before it...When AMD states that a processor is to appear in a quarter, they are referring to processor shipments, not release or public availability. The actual announcements usually appear at the very end of a quarter, or the start of the following quarter. AMD began shipping the 2000+ in mid-December, and as you know, it was announced the first week of January.

We are going to see AMD ship Palomino 2200+ processors in mid March, with an announcement coming either at the very end of the month, or the very start of April. Intel is expected to announce 533FSB (and presumably P4-2400) on March 28, so my guess is that you'll see AMD unveil the 2200+ Palomino either a few days before or a few days after. [Intel had previously listed 533FSB and the 2.26+2.4GHz P4 at the end of April, but Abit is claiming a March 28 release for their 533FSB Intel products.] Then, I expect AMD will ship Thoroughbred 2400+ processors in June, with an announcement toward the end of June or early July. When the Thoroughbred 2400+ is released, a Thoroughbred version of the 2200+ should also replace the Palomino 2200+.

Ken