Athlon XP @ 2.2GHz

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Duvie
In my opionion a 3000+ A64 is better then a 3.0 p4c in gaming and behind slightly in multimedia apps...Therefore for all intensive purposes looking at a whole think of a A64 speed as being equal to its p4c counterpart and not the P4e prescott...lets act like that one doesn't exist!!!!

With that in mind when it came to gaming and a majority of test the Barton 3200+ was not much faster then the Axthlon Xp 2800+ and thus is more comparative to a p4 2.8c...so maybe a 2800+ A64 if it exists....

In gaming it would be in that range in multimedia apps I tested it lost to my 2.4c at stock and usually got pounded by the 3.0c so it was somewhere between a 2.4c and 3.0c and closer to the 2.4c.....

Get it to a 2.4ghz and I think you have a p4c 3.0ghz/A64 3000+ range on a well rounded majority of things....

Duvie is basically right on. The AMD "ratings" went out the window with the dual channel C's came along then came back with AMD's A64.

The only point I'd disagree is the 400 "more" Mhz an XP needs to equal a A64/P4C 3000+... more like 250mhz more needed in most apps to equal it's rivals. Because the A-XP is even or better in apps high FPU like VB C++ compile/Sciencemark/LAME MP3 encoding/pifast/POV-Ray etc...


This link and the one linked above shows what I mean pretty well.. and even has the 2.4 barton in benchmarks which Duvie refers to for you all to compare.

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q1/athlonxp-m-2500/index.x?pg=1

I don't think anyone would argue these little sub $100CPUs with a full 600MHz of overclocking headroom ar'nt the best bang for buck though...probably ever

Edit: link corrected

I agree 100% the athlon xp2500m has so much overclocking potential, I have mine running at 2.5Ghz using a voltage of v1.75 but I think it can go much higher with better cooling!

 

[S4M33R]

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Originally posted by: magratton
Cept in that article the FSB is 200... Avalon was asking for "higher than 200". still I love re-eading that article and thinking about themoney I saved...
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ditto, I bought an athlon 2400 M now all I need is some high quality RAM... Thats going to cost me an arm and a leg in todays market ::kicks self for not jumping on corsair XMS when it was 60 bucks for 512 MB.

 

[BlvdKing]

I think Duvie is right. AXP ratings are way too high ATM.

 

[clarkey01]

yeah , the last few 2800,3000,3200 didnt stand up to thier names, the early AXP's did, a 2000+ whopped A 2.0A.

Intel hit back with the notrthwood, 533Mhz, Then a 800Mhz bus, AMD would have kept the performance crown ( remember that hammer is almost 2 years late) it was suppose to come somwhere around 2600+ or even before, but delays etc production problems slowed it down and Barton had to pushed even harder so cracks started to show.

Also hyperthreading helped Intel a little bit towards the end of the AXP/P4 C wars, however some ppl forget it is because of Intel's long pipeline that makes hyperthreading work, by keeping the pipe line full, alot of ppl keep saying why dont AMD use something like it, but at 12 pipelines for the hammer cores it's not really effective enough for the branch predictor etc.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Captante

A 2.6ghz P4 "C" will easily beat it in most of the benchmarks. Thus even the slowest A64 2800+ smokes it.

Are you on crack?.... just wondering because I have a NON-overclocked 2800+ Barton running on a
400mhz FSB on an NForce 2 & it will spank any 2600mhz P4... including the one I just built for a buddy of mine with otherwise the same exact config on an 875 Asus board.... now if you overclock the FSB on the P4 to 1000 the story changes, but only to it being slightly faster then the 2800+ at stock speed... if I overclock the 2800+ (its unlocked) to 2200mhz, then it will run right with the P4 on a 1000 mhz FSB... I suggest you double check your benchmarking methods dude.

Did you even look at the gaming benchmark links I posted above? first look at the extensive comparison of benchmarks at firingsquad that I linked and then talk. It is clear that AMD's speed rating stopped to be meaningful after AXP2400+ or so. I am not even mentioning intensive tasks like video encoding/decoding, mp3 conversion and programs that benefit from HT like Distributed Computing projects where 2.4C beats ANY AXP. There was a reason why the "C" Pentium 4 Family was declared a winner during the last generation processor culmination roundup. Even look at the Recommended System configuration by Anandtech every month and you'll see that even he admits that a 2.8C P4 is 20-30% faster than a 2800+XP. The popularity of XP Processors is only attributed to 2 factors - overclocking and cheap price. But make no mistake about it, the P4 C processors are faster. Besides your very own methodology with respect to 1000FSB and what not is not relevant. You could have a 3.6ghz P4 E prescott processor (take a 2.4A Prescott E 533FSB and overclock it to 3.6ghz = 18x200 or "only" 800FSB => see HardOCP 2.4A overclocking review) that will destroy ANY XP as well so you do not need 1000FSB to be competitive. If you don't believe me, ask anyone on these forums and maybe YOU should double check your benchmarks because I actually provided you with some.

Considering that 2.6C p4 beat AXP 2800+ 9 out of 11 benchmarks in Anand's Review and won 18 out of 27 benchmarks vs. 3200+ and 23 out of 27 benchmarks vs. 2800+ xp Here, I have high doubts with regard to your claims of your 2800+ beating your friend's 2.6C on an 875 board :roll:

 

[Zebo]

"I am not even mentioning intensive tasks like video encoding/decoding, mp3 conversion and programs that benefit from HT like Distributed Computing projects where 2.4C beats ANY AXP." This is just stupid talk.

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