Athlon XP @ 2.2GHz

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fsstrike

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My friend OCed his XP 2500+ to 2.2Ghz, we are just wondering about if it might be equivilent to any 64bit systems, such as the 64 3000+? Tonight we are going to try and OC it to 2.4. We are using the Zalman 7000a pure CU fan.

His system:

AMD Athlon XP @ 2.2Ghz
512kb
512mb DDR 400 @ 400 (200)
 
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PCTweaker5

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Why is it that people including myself put a G at the end of athlon? Is it because we are sick f*cks and any word that comes close to thong must be thong?
 
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fsstrike

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Originally posted by: PCTweaker5
Why is it that people including myself put a G at the end of athlon? Is it because we are sick f*cks and any word that comes close to thong must be thong?
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lol its a typo:p I dont know why either, i guess habbit:p

And his FSB is at 400
 
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Duvie

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In my opionion a 3000+ A64 is better then a 3.0 p4c in gaming and behind slightly in multimedia apps...Therefore for all intensive purposes looking at a whole think of a A64 speed as being equal to its p4c counterpart and not the P4e prescott...lets act like that one doesn't exist!!!!

With that in mind when it came to gaming and a majority of test the Barton 3200+ was not much faster then the Axthlon Xp 2800+ and thus is more comparative to a p4 2.8c...so maybe a 2800+ A64 if it exists....

In gaming it would be in that range in multimedia apps I tested it lost to my 2.4c at stock and usually got pounded by the 3.0c so it was somewhere between a 2.4c and 3.0c and closer to the 2.4c.....

Get it to a 2.4ghz and I think you have a p4c 3.0ghz/A64 3000+ range on a well rounded majority of things....
 
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RussianSensation

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A 2.6ghz P4 "C" will easily beat it in most of the benchmarks. Thus even the slowest A64 2800+ smokes it.

Just compare these 2 benchmarks side by side and you'll see that even a 2.4C easily beats a 2800+ AXP at gaming and is very close to XP3200+. X800Pro - Intel and X800Pro - AMD XP
 
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I'm wondering how a mobile barton OC'd to a higher FSB than 200 and running at a frequency of at least 2.4ghz would stack up to A64 chips. It would be nice if there was an article with that.
 
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AWhackWhiteBoy

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Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm wondering how a mobile barton OC'd to a higher FSB than 200 and running at a frequency of at least 2.4ghz would stack up to A64 chips. It would be nice if there was an article with that.
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ask and you shall receieve

thank myocardia for that link

edit: when i'm bored one day i'll have to jack my memory back to to 250 again and get some benchmarks, because are curious as to how the FSB effects everything.
 
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magratton

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Cept in that article the FSB is 200... Avalon was asking for "higher than 200". still I love re-eading that article and thinking about themoney I saved... :)
 
Avalon

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Good article. It is indeed nice to know how much performance we received for such a little price, and it's comforting to know that in most situations, an overclocked mobile can keep pace :)
Unfortunately, what I was really interested in seeing were different FSB settings above 200 as well.
Perhaps the standard FSB for higher speed memories.
If it had 216FSB, 233FSB, and 250FSB settings alongside with that, that would be a very complete article.
Currently I'm running my chip at 216x11, as shown per in my sig.
If I can get my DFI Infinity board soon and can push 250, I'll try to see if I can grab a couple of benching tools and run them at a few of those FSB settings to see what the difference is.
Most likely I'll run something like 3dmark, Sandra, and Sciencemark.
That would be interesting.
 
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Right now my old school 2500+ is clipping along at a peppy 2.4GHz with a 200MHz FSB. Vcore set to 1.75V as my first guess at what I'd need. I'll lower it later if it's Prime stable over night.

I got a Super Pi score of 1m35s on the 2M test. 42s for the 1M test. I'm pleased.
 
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Well, that didn't take long. Prime95 Blended test locked up WinXP within minutes of starting. I'll try the Small FFT test and see if the CPU is ok there, maybe I just need to up my Vdd...
 
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Mik3y

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an athlon xp 3200+ (2.2ghz) is about the equivalent of an intel p4 2.8C or athlon 64 2800+, though its a bit weaker then the newer athlons or p4 2.8.
 
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AWhackWhiteBoy

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i just bencmarked my barton at 238x10.2 and 208x12, the 238 is with 3-6-3-3-3 timings, and the 208 is with 2-6-3-3-3 timings. it resulted in only a 2 second difference with superpi 2m test, and only a very minimal memory score difference not even worth noting. the cache scores didn't even budge. i guess bartons aren't worth the effort for FSB tweaking even though the superpi result change is pretty decent.
 
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PliotronX

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Originally posted by: magratton
Cept in that article the FSB is 200... Avalon was asking for "higher than 200". still I love re-eading that article and thinking about themoney I saved... :)
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Yeah, the second to the last page is the only one with anything beyond 200MHz for the XP, but it only went to 210MHz and one benchie (SuperPi), a far cry from one of the crazies with >230MHz and BH-5 memory :D
 
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Sylvanas

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ummmm you should use Sisoft sandra to benchmark your cpu and alike, sure it may not be totally accurate but at least it gives us a few indications
 
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A 2.6ghz P4 "C" will easily beat it in most of the benchmarks. Thus even the slowest A64 2800+ smokes it.
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Are you on crack?.... just wondering because I have a NON-overclocked 2800+ Barton running on a
400mhz FSB on an NForce 2 & it will spank any 2600mhz P4... including the one I just built for a buddy of mine with otherwise the same exact config on an 875 Asus board.... now if you overclock the FSB on the P4 to 1000 the story changes, but only to it being slightly faster then the 2800+ at stock speed... if I overclock the 2800+ (its unlocked) to 2200mhz, then it will run right with the P4 on a 1000 mhz FSB... I suggest you double check your benchmarking methods dude.
 
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clarkey01

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"Therefore for all intensive purposes looking at a whole think of a A64 speed as being equal to its p4c counterpart and not the P4e prescott...lets act like that one doesn't exist!!!!"

What do you mean ?prescott does worse then a northwood at lower speeds and only a fraction faster at over 3.4ghz, I think a northwood still beats it for games and if you ever feel like cooking some frys just slap them on your prescott and "Tadaaaaaa" cooked frys.

My point being that A64 is still equel or better then a prescott at the same speed grades. It seems like your hitning that its out of the A64's reach.
 
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Zebo

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Originally posted by: Duvie
In my opionion a 3000+ A64 is better then a 3.0 p4c in gaming and behind slightly in multimedia apps...Therefore for all intensive purposes looking at a whole think of a A64 speed as being equal to its p4c counterpart and not the P4e prescott...lets act like that one doesn't exist!!!!

With that in mind when it came to gaming and a majority of test the Barton 3200+ was not much faster then the Axthlon Xp 2800+ and thus is more comparative to a p4 2.8c...so maybe a 2800+ A64 if it exists....

In gaming it would be in that range in multimedia apps I tested it lost to my 2.4c at stock and usually got pounded by the 3.0c so it was somewhere between a 2.4c and 3.0c and closer to the 2.4c.....

Get it to a 2.4ghz and I think you have a p4c 3.0ghz/A64 3000+ range on a well rounded majority of things....
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Duvie is basically right on. The AMD "ratings" went out the window with the dual channel C's came along then came back with AMD's A64.

The only point I'd disagree is the 400 "more" Mhz an XP needs to equal a A64/P4C 3000+... more like 250mhz more needed in most apps to equal it's rivals. Because the A-XP is even or better in apps high FPU like VB C++ compile/Sciencemark/LAME MP3 encoding/pifast/POV-Ray etc...


This link and the one linked above shows what I mean pretty well.. and even has the 2.4 barton in benchmarks which Duvie refers to for you all to compare.:)

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q1/athlonxp-m-2500/index.x?pg=1

I don't think anyone would argue these little sub $100CPUs with a full 600MHz of overclocking headroom ar'nt the best bang for buck though...probably ever:)

Edit: link corrected
 
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nemesismk2

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Originally posted by: fsstrike
My friend OCed his XP 2500+ to 2.2Ghz, we are just wondering about if it might be equivilent to any 64bit systems, such as the 64 3000+? Tonight we are going to try and OC it to 2.4. We are using the Zalman 7000a pure CU fan.

His system:

AMD Athlon XP @ 2.2Ghz
512kb
512mb DDR 400 @ 400 (200)
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The Athlon64 2800 offers approx xp3000 to xp3200 performance depending on the benchmark used!

AMD Athlon 64 2800+: A Cheaper Newcastle at Anandtech
 
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