Athlon Thunderbird 1Ghz for a P3 Coppermine 9xxmhz

ajaidevsingh

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Right now i am running a P3 @ 9xx Mhz as the wifi server for my house with extensions. I was given a choice by my friend who wants to exchange it with his old Athlon thunderbird 1Ghz.

I have never used a Athlon thunderbird and was into only Intel chips at that time. I do know the technical differences but i am confused as to how well would they server as a wifi server simple internet wifi noting fancy...??


Also i am concerned over the electricity used would a Athlon TB use up more or less juice than a intel P3???
 

nismotigerwvu

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The athlon will be quite a bit faster, but this is like comparing the footspeed of an 80 year old woman to that of one merely 79.
As long as your current setup works I wouldn't mess with it.
 

Andrew1990

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I would go for the Athlon, depending on the motherboard you could get a cheap Athlon XP-M which will use less energy and can be underclocked to use even less energy.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
The athlon will be quite a bit faster, but this is like comparing the footspeed of an 80 year old woman to that of one merely 79.
As long as your current setup works I wouldn't mess with it.

Athlon was not quite a bit faster than P3. It was marginally faster at the same clockspeed.

Or in the overall picture :

K7 w/external cache (often 1/3 core speed L2 or worse) was competitive, slightly faster than P3 Katmai with 1/2 core speed L2 cache.

Athlon Thunderbird with the on-die L2, this was much faster than K7 or P3 Katmai.

P3 Coppermine with the 133FSB and on-die L2, this was pretty much indistinguishable in performance from the Athlon T-Bird. The difference was that P3 Coppermine topped out at 1.13Ghz (and it wasn't 100% stable at that speed), and up to 1.4Ghz versions of T-Bird were released.

Also notable : T-Birds, while good chips when working, did not have IHS, did not really have any thermal overload protection system to speak of, and are a bit fragile. Also, many of the Socket-A chipsets were just garbage (of course the CC820 and some of the other Socket 370 chipsets were crappy as well, but they were mostly excellent in the 440BX and i815 releases.)

 

Martimus

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I have an old Thunderbird 1GHz sitting next to me with a golden Orb on a Gigabyte GA-7VRXP that I haven't used in years. If you were local I would just give it to you. (Detroit, MI area) I have 512MB of ECC DRAM at 133MHz for it, I believe.
 

Stumps

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stick with what you have...sure the Athlon is a tad bit faster but it's just not worth the effort...and besides that P3 will run a great deal cooler than an old Athlon T-bird.
 

formulav8

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
The athlon will be quite a bit faster, but this is like comparing the footspeed of an 80 year old woman to that of one merely 79.
As long as your current setup works I wouldn't mess with it.

Athlon was not quite a bit faster than P3. It was marginally faster at the same clockspeed.

Or in the overall picture :

K7 w/external cache (often 1/3 core speed L2 or worse) was competitive, slightly faster than P3 Katmai with 1/2 core speed L2 cache.

Athlon Thunderbird with the on-die L2, this was much faster than K7 or P3 Katmai.

P3 Coppermine with the 133FSB and on-die L2, this was pretty much indistinguishable in performance from the Athlon T-Bird. The difference was that P3 Coppermine topped out at 1.13Ghz (and it wasn't 100% stable at that speed), and up to 1.4Ghz versions of T-Bird were released.

Also notable : T-Birds, while good chips when working, did not have IHS, did not really have any thermal overload protection system to speak of, and are a bit fragile. Also, many of the Socket-A chipsets were just garbage (of course the CC820 and some of the other Socket 370 chipsets were crappy as well, but they were mostly excellent in the 440BX and i815 releases.)



An Athlon on a Via KT266a will walk all over a P3 in almost everything. You must be thinking when AMD only had those trashy KT133 based chipsets which were majorly holding the cpu's real capability. Around the 1.2ghz era the athlons actually got a good platform to stretch its legs. :)

I have a P3 clocked higher than the Athlon and the Athlon still wins in most everything.


Jason

 

dbcooper1

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The Thunderbird was a power hog and generated quite a bit more heat than your P3. Do you really need additional speed for this application and is it worth the hassle and power cost?
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Stumps
stick with what you have...sure the Athlon is a tad bit faster but it's just not worth the effort...and besides that P3 will run a great deal cooler than an old Athlon T-bird.
I agree.

The P3 was actually a great CPU and is the basis for the Core2, and I think even the Atom.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Stumps
stick with what you have...sure the Athlon is a tad bit faster but it's just not worth the effort...and besides that P3 will run a great deal cooler than an old Athlon T-bird.
I agree.

The P3 was actually a great CPU and is the basis for the Core2, and I think even the Atom.


yep, I still have one in a home server, a P3-S 1.4@1.73ghz it's faster than a 2.4ghz P4 in most apps.
 

BlueBlazer

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Not worth the hassle, those T-birds are literally burning hot! I'm an ex-owner.. The fan noise will drive you nuts, and I had a 6000rpm one to keep one of those toasters in check.

Coppermine on the otherhand is damn cool in comparison. Believe it or not, the 566MHz Celery heatsink was cool to the touch!