Athlon temp - help pls

[Magicthyse]

I've just built up an Athlon 1.33Mhz on an Asus A7V266-E for a friend. However, I've aborted it for now due to a worry - temperature.

The first thing I was wondering was, is there enough cooling? So I had it on the BIOS temp display screen, and it started at 38 Deg C and crept steadily up -= after about 10 minutes of uptime, the temp had crept up to 60 Deg C. This is when I switched it off.

Does anyone know what is the normal operating temp of an unoverclocked Athlon 1.33Mhz (266Mhz FSB)?

 

[sohcrates]

60C is very hot. it's technically safe, but i certainly would worry if it's hovering around there.

Most people's athlons run between 40 and 50C when they have good cooling

sounds like you need a new HSF and some arctic silver II

 

[dajeepster]

I'm curious about this also.. I just built my first athlon machine with a XP1800 and the Asus A7V266-E and my temp hangs around 52 degrees C... i'm having a horrible time with it because I can't get the system stable enough to get anaccurate reading over time... i'm waiting for some memory to show up in the next couple of days... since that was the only thing that wasn't "boxed"... it's scary since my dual PIII hangs around 30 degrees

 

[AcidzT]

can we say copper?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Remember that different AMD mb's read temps differentely. YOu can't effectively compare temps with other MB's.

And, hte all important question: What is your ambient temp? Without knowing this, determing where your CPU "temps" are is impossible ?



Mike

 

[Wind]

<< Remember that different AMD mb's read temps differentely. YOu can't effectively compare temps with other MB's.

And, hte all important question: What is your ambient temp? Without knowing this, determing where your CPU "temps" are is impossible ?

Mike >>


To add to this, pls let us know wht HSF u have ? A std HSF from AMD retail will have the temp between 50-60C. Again like Mike said, we still need the ambient temp & case temp to judge..

 

[dajeepster]

My temps are with a fan from thermatake.. I don't know the exact model off hand... I'll get that info when I get home... but it's big and blue and has a fan that runs from the 5v line, but with a sense line running to the mb. I haven't even tried this the stock fan. All my parts are retail except the memory, but i'm replacing that today

 

[Shack70]

You may want to try a new heatsink/fan and some thermal grease like Artic Silver.

 

[Alkoholger]

I have the same "problem" with an Asus A7V266-E and an Athlon 1800+.
Im using a Cooler Master DP5-6l31C cooler.
my idle temp is about 57 deg C for the cpu and 38 deg. for mobo. When in use the temps are 63 deg C for cpu and 40 deg C for mobo.

Any advice??

 

[KenCleanAirSystem]

<< I have the same "problem" with an Asus A7V266-E and an Athlon 1800+.
Im using a Cooler Master DP5-6l31C cooler.
my idle temp is about 57 deg C for the cpu and 38 deg. for mobo. When in use the temps are 63 deg C for cpu and 40 deg C for mobo.

Any advice?? >>



I also have an 1800+ with a CoolerMaster DP5-6l31C my ambient and motherboard temperatures were fine (20C ambient/23-24C motherboard) but the processor was idling at around 52C-54C and going as high as 60C-64C under load. I added a couple case fans, removed the crappy thermal pad from the heatsink and replaced it with some Arctic Silver 2 thermal compound and now the CPU idles around 40C-43C and never goes over 50C under full load.

Get rid of that crappy thermal pad and invest in some Artic Silver and a couple case fans and I bet you'll see your temps come down quite a bit too.

 

[dajeepster]

oh yeah... i'm using arctic silver II... i'm not sure whether I put too much or not... the heat sink stays relatively cool....I put it on liberally, not sparingly... i first applied asII to the cpu, laid the heatsink ontop and then removed the heat sink to see what coverage I got on the heat sink... i was covered there.

 

[WarCon]

It really is hard to determine the true cause of your high temps without more info. But a rise of 22C is very alarming while in bios, since bios doesn't even provide full load temps. Was there a thermal pad on the heatsink? If so did you remember to remove the cover before you put it on the processor? I seen quite a few instances of this. One other possibility that you might want to examine is the clip. Is it on the right direction on the heatsink. If the bent part that pushes the heatsink isn't directly over the core then it will tilt the heatsink off of the core. Check that.

Good luck solving this, be very careful. A T-bird is a terrible thing to waste...........

 

[Magicthyse]

Ambient temp - maybe 17 deg C.
HSF=Cooler Master 6I11 I think (labelled for up to SoA-1.733Ghz)

 

[WarCon]

What is your system temp?

A 17C ambient is really nice and cool and you shouldn't be getting those temps. I would guess your heatsink install is not adequate. I would take it off, scrap off the pad and use ASII. Do also check that the clip is on the right direction.

 

[dajeepster]

I recall (somewhat) that there was a pad on the bottom of my heatsink.... (yes, i removed the paper protection off of it before I installed it). Should I scrape this pad off and then apply asII or just leave it as it is?

 

[WarCon]

Well something is causing alot of extra heat, either the pad didn't seat well or your clip is backwards or your fan is sucking air out of this heatsink (some heatsinks this works better, but not on heatsinks that have no shroud to force air to draw from the bottom).

It is possible that this is the best that heatsink can do in your setup, (Asus boards tend to be biased towards showing higher temps - which is probably more accurate, but scary when compared to other boards. That is why so many people here say not to compare temps. I only warn you because of the amount of difference from your initial bios temp to the final reading before you shut it off. 22C difference is significant considering bios tends to be somewhere between 50% load and 70% load usually.

If you properly clean off the pad from both the heatsink and core using acetone, then alcohol. You will see a significant difference if you use Arctic Silver II.

Again good luck figuring it out.

 

[kmmatney]

hmmm...

According to MProbe.exe, my cpu temp is 55 C, and ambient temp is 30 C. I have an Athlon XP1500 running as fast as an XP1700. My PSU is a cheap 300 watt, bought 3 years ago. I have a slot fan pumping out a fair bit of warm air. I should be getting an Enermax whisperquiet PSU for Xmas, so hopefully that will lower my case temp.

Currently, my system is rock stable. I run distributed projects 24/7, so the cpu temp is ALWAYS around 55-56 C. Seems to work fine, never crashing. Damn high temps though.

 

[Freejack2]

I've got an A7V266-E with an Athlon XP 1800+ speed @ 1.8volts also and this thing is driving me nuts. I hear all these people getting low 40's. I've lapped my alpha 8045, put Arctic Silver 2 on it, the works and I still get 48c idle and 55c under full load. I have my themcpu jumper on Athlon/Duron so it's reading the onboard sensor.
One thing though is I went to page 43 of this document on AMD's site, and it says the stop grant S1 or sleep state is 50c.
I don't know if this means the cpu idles at 50c or if it gets overheated at 50c and has to slow itself down... *shrug*
The max die temp apparently though is 90c.

So should those of us getting 50c+ temps worry?

 

[Wind]

<< hmmm...

According to MProbe.exe, my cpu temp is 55 C, and ambient temp is 30 C. I have an Athlon XP1500 running as fast as an XP1700. My PSU is a cheap 300 watt, bought 3 years ago. I have a slot fan pumping out a fair bit of warm air. I should be getting an Enermax whisperquiet PSU for Xmas, so hopefully that will lower my case temp.

Currently, my system is rock stable. I run distributed projects 24/7, so the cpu temp is ALWAYS around 55-56 C. Seems to work fine, never crashing. Damn high temps though. >>


U use stock HSF fan to O/C ? Bad idea...the stock HSF is not very efficient under stress in O/Cing. Tht might be the cause of ur high temp. U really need a better HSF to O/C.