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Athlon s939 0.9mm vs 0.13mm

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siberain

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Will there be some kind of performance loss/gain ?

The price seems to indicate something..

I mean just the 3500+ is priced around 350 US (0.13m)

and the 3000+ is priced around 175 US (0.9m)

Anyone?
 
more chips per wafer for AMD = higher yields = cheaper to produce....

Should run cooler and be able to clock higher *above the ~2.6Ghz current limit on the 0.13 stuff*
 
3000+ is priced so low for a couple reasons.


1. Amd wants people to shift to 939 so I doesn't have to keep making 754 and 939 and 940 procs.
2. Amd wants people to buy .09 because it's cheaper to make.
3. Amd can't charge very much for the 3000+ 939 because the 3000+ 754 is only ~ $150.


I understand that .09 chips will actually have performance enhancements over the .13 ones.
 
Also, the 3500+ is overpriced relative to the 3400+ (for about the same performance) so it is not a very good data point.

The 90nm 939 chips seem to be priced much more appropriately than the 3500+ is.

-D'oh!
 
That . . . doesn't look like they're slower to me. They're almost identical in performance(sometimes faster, sometiems slower) to the Newcastle 3500+s.

I'm a little surprised by the fact that they run hotter, though. Very interesting.
 
I have a feeling a second revision will run a bit cooler, kinda like the C0 -> CG situation.
 
Originally posted by: MDE
I have a feeling a second revision will run a bit cooler, kinda like the C0 -> CG situation.
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Didn't the Prescotts follow a similar path? I seem to remember the early revisions were the cause of the PrescHOT talk.
 
No SSE3! I was hoping the rumors wasn't true. Now I have to think twice of whether to wait till next year or upgrade now from my Athlon 800. Darn, and I was thinking of organize my video collection to DVD.

Anyone have any details or rumors of whether the next revision will have it? I know Rev.E will have it, but something in between?
 
Originally posted by: santa590
No SSE3! I was hoping the rumors wasn't true. Now I have to think twice of whether to wait till next year or upgrade now from my Athlon 800. Darn, and I was thinking of organize my video collection to DVD.

Anyone have any details or rumors of whether the next revision will have it? I know Rev.E will have it, but something in between?
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I thought it does have SSE3? Where did you read it does not?
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: santa590
No SSE3! I was hoping the rumors wasn't true. Now I have to think twice of whether to wait till next year or upgrade now from my Athlon 800. Darn, and I was thinking of organize my video collection to DVD.

Anyone have any details or rumors of whether the next revision will have it? I know Rev.E will have it, but something in between?
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I thought it does have SSE3? Where did you read it does not?
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here http://babelfish.altavista.com...%2fhwdb%2f90na64-1.htm
 
CPU-Z might need to be updated to that core to be able to see is SSE3 is there. I did not see anything with AMD saying SSE3 is nto on it. The last I heard FROM AMD was it would be there.

But it is still early to write off that the newwer cores will not have it. Mind you SSE3 is a VERY minor upgarde and much less then SSE2
 
I plan to buy a 3200+ (2.0GHz) and just OC it to 3500+ frequencys (2.2GHz). I know its just speculation right now but do you guys think that I'll be able to OC it 200Mhz?
 
As long as they aren't worse clockers than the .13's it should be easy. As long as your other parts are up to snuff.
 
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