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Athlon 64 E revision to require new motherboards?

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cjacobs2

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The Inquirer is reporting that there have been issues with some NForce 3/4 boards shutting down or refusing to boot when used to demonstrate Revision E (Venice core, I think) CPUs @ CeBIT. AMD says it may be related to "thermal regulation protection" and that various boards may be affected with no remedy. See the link below for details.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

I, like many others, see my NForce 4 board as a good upgrade path for the future, though I personally will wait 'till dual core. If true, this would mean we're all SOL.
 
Originally posted by: cjacobs2
I, like many others, see my NForce 4 board as a good upgrade path for the future, though I personally will wait 'till dual core. If true, this would mean we're all SOL.
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Well.. most of non-highend dual cores will be socket M2. Only few high-end line-up (including FX) will be 939 anyway. Yes, I disappointed a lot by this, and seriously thinking about going Intel's 945 platform, which is around the corner for market release and officially supports Pentium D.

I never knew the day I can say "Intel for the future proof" would be reality.
 
How can you be seriously considering something based on an article from The Inquirer? 🙂

And are you completely forgetting about the 915/925 and the fact that they don't support the Pentium D?
 
Originally posted by: ChineseDemocracyGNR
How can you be seriously considering something based on an article from The Inquirer? 🙂

And are you completely forgetting about the 915/925 and the fact that they don't support the Pentium D?
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Well, I said that because I am planning to order the system in few months, not right now. So, in my position, I am sure that it would be way more reasonable to buy 945 for the future.

Sorry but I really don't care about what they "did" before. I am only interested in what "is" going on. And even if I care about what Intel said before, there was no official announcement that Intel saying 915/925 would be compatible to Pentium D, at least I heard of. The users just assumed that 915/925 would be compatible to PenD. It turn out to be 915/925 isn't compatible, so what. Did Intel ensure those would be compatible? I don't think so.

Yeah, I don't believe in The Inquirer at all. But it is also true that they bring somewhat reliable information this day.
 
Hi,

What CPU does this refer to?

Is it any 90nm Socket 939, or is there a newer 90nm version I should be looking out for?

-- David
 
Originally posted by: ChineseDemocracyGNR
Yes I know, that was just a comment on the "Intel for the future proof" statement and how invalid it is. 😛
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I know 😛 That's why I said "I never knew" the day I can say that would be reality. But for now (with information available), the statement is not invalid at all.

Intel - Introducing 945/955 for Pentium D. Pentium D supposed to be mainstream at least until 2006 or 2007. No plan of socket switching until then as well.

AMD - Used to say s939 will be mainstream for a while. But now, with the newest roadmap, dualcore will be available only as high-end line. And in 2006, all the line-up, from socket A to Socket 940, will be replaced with M2.

Well, again, it's only based on the information available "right now." If, for example, AMD decides to introduce its low-end dualcore for s939, my decision would be changed. But for now, I don't think my statement is that much wrong.
 
DFI SLI-DR revision R.A00 does not boot with a new Athlon64 3500+ which I suspect being the incompatible revision E.
Has anyone tried the BIOS 2005/3/10 version with A64 rev. E - will it fix the incompatibility?
 
Well, as far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I see it. The Inquirer information should be taken with a grain of salt, as they've provided much false information in the past, and I will admit that they also have provided solid info as well.

Socket 939 will be supported as the high-end until roughly mid-to-late 2006, then Socket M2 will take over. The first 3-4 dual-core revs will be for Socket 939, not M2. So, anyone planning a 939-based system is pretty much OK until then.

As far as the Intel thing goes. You go ahead and get yourself a space heater. I don't care if "Pentium D" uses a pair of "good" Prescott cores, they're still Prescott. When Intel switches to its dual-core Pentium M-based CPU, then there will most likely be a socket change, so as far as I see it, LGA775 is about as "future-proof" as Socket 939.
 
From OCWorkBench.com:
"ASrock CPU support list for Rev E cores (SSE3)
Posted by overclocker at 14:56

I received a K8 CPU support list for the ASrock K8 S754 and S939 boards. From the chart, it can be seen that all the following S754 boards support the Rev D and E CPUs (Sempron 2600+ ~ 3300+). Revision E means SSE3 support.

They are :

K8 Combo-Z, K8UPG-1689, K8UPG-VM800, K8UPG-760GX, K7UPG-600, K7UPG-880, K8A8X-M

For Socket 939, Sempron 3000+,3200+ are support. 3000+, 3200+, 3400+, 3500+, 3700+, 3800+ are all supported on teh following boards :

939A8X-M, K8Combo-Z, K8UPG-1689, K8UPG-VM800, K8UPG_760GX

* all the above are supported by the current released BIOS. "
 
But that's only ASRock. What about other brands? ASRock is only a small portion of the mobos out there, and on top of that, they're budget boards as well. However, I draw the conclusion that if budget boards will work with "Rev E's", then most other recent boards will work fine with them as well.
 
ASRock boards are budget but their support is very good actually. 🙂

But the point was, if all of their boards work with the new revision there shouldn't be a problem for anyone else.
 
They are the quintessential yellow journalists of the computer industry.
 
I was looking at getting an msi k8n neo 2 platinum....am i in any danger of getting incompatible parts?

ok...checked the link above and noticed they said there wasn't a problem.

I was planning to get a 64 3200 90nm 939, but now considering a rev e. Will my plan to use a thermalright xp-90 hs still be ok?
 
It seems there is still a little bit of truth to the rumour. Shuttle is suggesting that Venice and San Diego won't work with the SN95G5 based on the nf3 250 chipset.
 
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