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Athlon 64 4000+ Vs. 3800 X2

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Chacranajxy

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I've really got no idea which way to go here: I'm trying to decide between the 3800 X2 and the 4000+, but I'm not sure which is the better choice... I do some internet and AIM stuff on the side, but the priority for the computer is definitely gaming since I'd be putting this with 2GB of RAM and a 7800GTX... anyway, I know that the 3800 has only 512K of cache and runs at 2.0 GHz instead of 2.4 like the 4000, but I'm wondering if it'd actually take a performance hit or if the 3800 would actually help since it's dual core. Also, which has better overclocking abilities?

Overall, what's the better choice for a gamer who wants to play FEAR and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, but still wants some benefits for when I'm not playing games?
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
X23800 OC'ed to 2.4 Almost guaranteed.
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Actually I looked up some benchmarks and the X2 3800 looks like it can get massive benefits from OCing... far more than what the 4000 can get. So can someone answer this: How will the lower cache of the 3800 as opposed to the 4000 affect gaming?
 
If youre looking for hard fps in games. What you want is the opteron 146 that oc's to 3ghz pretty easily. Its only $200. Or the 144 thats only around $150. Thats my opinion. AMD is dropping prices on oct.24th as well as 31st. Prices on almost all AMD cpus are about to drop more. Sort of the wrong time to buy but...

I wouldnt waste money on an x2 just yet, let prices drop and see where they fall. Get something cheap to hold you over for a month, that you wont lose alot of money on.
 
Originally posted by: modempower
If youre looking for hard fps in games. What you want is the opteron 146 that oc's to 3ghz pretty easily. Its only $200. Or the 144 thats only around $150. Thats my opinion. AMD is dropping prices on oct.24th as well as 31st. Prices on almost all AMD cpus are about to drop more. Sort of the wrong time to buy but...

I wouldnt waste money on an x2 just yet, let prices drop and see where they fall. Get something cheap to hold you over for a month, that you wont lose alot of money on.
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Actually, I'm building around the end of November... just getting ideas now. Thanks for the heads up on the price drops though... makes it easier to justify getting an uber processor.
 
The 4000+ has better overclocking abilities suppsedly because of less heat, but frankly if your willing to spend that much on a processor, the x2 3800+ is the way to go. Anything above 2.4GHZ and you won't notice a difference if you play at high resolutions for gaming. If however you want to save up, the venice 3000+ is the best choice.
 
Great, just hoping you lot can put my mind at ease on an issue which is fairly similar (and therefore doesn't justify a new thread):

I've got a choice between a 4000+ and a 3800x2. Now, how big is the gaming difference between these two CPUs going to be? If it's running with a Geforce 7800GT and at least 1Gig of RAM, how well is it going to cope with modern games out nowadays? Just how much of a performance increase do you get gaming wise from a 4000+? I know most of the performance for games is due to the GPU, but I don't really want to get a CPU which isn't going to let me game 'till bleeding eye syndrome at decent settings (at the very least). Right now I'm leaning towards the 3800x2 for future proofing (once I buy the CPU buying a new one won't be an option for years). Is the difference only a few FPS, or more?

I'm new to this (so this is most likely a really stupid question), but I've been looking and the only difference I can see between the 4000+ and the 3800x2 is that the 4000+ has a 2.4Ghz Frequency and that the 3800x2 has a 2Ghz frequency. Now I've read here that it's seriously easy to OC a 3800x2 up to 2.4Ghz. Would this make it perform as well as a 4000+? Because apart from that I can't see the difference between the two CPUs stats. Though the 3800x2 has 512 Cache per core and the 4000+ has 1Mb for its single core, does it make THAT much of a difference?

I'd appreciate it if someone could link to some gaming benchmarks for the 3800x2 Vs the 4000+, preferrably with the 3800x2 on OCed and 'normal' settings.
 
For the benchmarks, you won't find much OC'ed, but just compare 4000+ toi X2 4800 (2.4) and that will show you close.
 
So a 3800x2 OCed to 2.4 is nearly the same as an 4800x2? I know the 4800x2 has a hell of a lot more cache than the 3800x2 but I have no idea how much that affects gaming to be honest. How big a difference between an OCed 3800x2 (to 2.4) and a 4800x2 are we looking at here?
 
Thanks a lot, answers most of my Qs.



How much will OCing the CPU affect its life-span? Assuming it isn't a huge OC and you're still within the 'recommended temps' for the CPU?
 
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