athlon 64 3200+ vs. 3500+

[acegazda]

Which one of these processors has superior overclocking ability and bang for buck?
there is almost a $60 difference between the two, so I wouldn't mind paying less...
...but if the 3500+ is THAT much better i don't mind at all.
Powering a gaming system.

 

[fixxxer0]

they are identical for overclocking

 

[corsa]

Hey acegazda, if u were to run stock 3500+ is ur chip, but ur overclockin so stick with the cheaper 3200+ like fixxxer0 alluded to, both should get u atleast 2600. Now ur choice of MB concerns me, its not the best OC board going around .. i suggest u read a bit more about DFI ...

 

[corsa]

....hey me again lol, forgot to mention about ur vga card, go for a passive like the Asus, or the Gigagbyte, i know the Gigabyte runs very cool from a friend of mine who just upgraded, and the sound it makes is....umm......silent

 

[F1shF4t]

The diff between the 2 is small even if u run it at stock, and at worst the 3200+ should be able to at LEAST get 2.2ghz. I would say get the 3200+ it should get to 2.4ghz and even higher if ur lucky and have a good board.

Actually i would say the only 3 amd cpus worth buying now (not counting semprons for very cheap comps) are the 3200+ for single core or 3800+/opty 165 dualcores. They can overclock and even if ur running at stock the diff will not be that huge to warrant spending a lot of money. If u want games any cpu 3200+ and over will be limited by the graphics card, unless u like 200+fps at 800 * 600 reso

 

[acegazda]

yea corsa, i got some other suggestions form people that said the dfi ultra-d was the way to go
also, i found the x1800xt for $295 after MIR!
see my revised build below v
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[BassBomb]

you should be able to find x1800xt's goin for 250

 

[soloz2]

the 3200 and 3500's use the same core and will OC to the same frequency. (typically) I would not spend the extra money for the 3500 over the3200 unless your mobo can't handle higher frequencies, in that case the 11x multi of the 3500 might come in handy. But if you are getting a DFI board you will not run into this problem.

If you were to spend extra money you would be best to get a 3700+ SD. it has double the cache of the venice core processors and typically OC's much better. many of the recent 3700+ sd's have been able to reach 3Ghz on air.

Another option would be to pick up a single core opteron because they typically OC to 2.7-3Ghz and Monarch has some coupon codes on OEM optys. You can pick up a 146 (2Ghz 1mbcache) for fairly cheap

 

[Fistandantilis]

Sorry fo rthe threadjack but how do you overclock a motherboard?

 

[acegazda]

there should be a multiplier setting ON the actual motherboard (youll have to open the case...)
and I think its preset to 10x. You can increase or decrease this (play around with it) untill u get the highest clock spead on the internal clock. Also: if you have a good board like asus or DFI the bios (f10 or sumthin) screen will let u simply change the cpu speed or voltage.

 

[Geomagick]

All modern boards do it through the BIOS rather than jumpers. The last time I used jumpers / dip switches was back in 1997.

Many boards are also able to change clockspeed on the fly without having to reboot.

 

[HamidFULL]

buy 3200+ only!
with 3500+ u can reach 2750 @ 250x11
with 3200+ u can reach 2750 @ 275x10
3200+ is Gold Single Core in A64 Series with low voltage and reach Higher Clocks
3000+ is Silver Single Core in A64 Series with high voltage and reach Higher Clocks
3500 or higher is Bad