Athlon 64 3000+ 939pin Winchester Core Now $163 @ NewEgg

[lnin0]

Here is a blurb about why the frequencies differ from the 90nm/130nm from Anandtech...

It is interesting that AMD rates the 1.8GHz Socket 939 90nm 512k CPU as 3000+, while the Socket 754 1.8GHz 512k 130nm is rated as 2800+. Speed ratings for 939 chips are generally higher than their 754 counterparts. AMD believes that the higher performance of the Dual-Channel memory controller justifies these rating differences.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...ts/showdoc.aspx?i=2242

Now to decide if the Mwave and other 3000+/3200+ 939's are 90nm or not...

Two site confirm that a 3000+ and 3200+ don't exist. So you can believe Anandtech and Overclocker.com....

if you can find a 3000+ or 3200+ in Socket 939, you can be confident that it is the new 90nm version. Since 3500+ is produced in both 90nm and 130nm versions, you will need to ask if it is a 90nm part.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00669/

True, the webpage doesn't exactly say that they're 90nm chips, but:

1) there are no such things as 130nm socket 939 3000+ and 3200+s,

or you can believe c627627.com??? [whois: Basic, Edin edilnkc@yahoo.com 5100 Foxridge Drive, Apt. 223 Mission, KS 66202]

http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/


Also note, the body copy from Mwave maybe incorrectly cut and pasted from another spec page:

Model Number: 3200+
Frequency: 2.0GHz
Packaging: 939-pin AMD64 Technology Yes
Die Size: 144 to 193 mm²

A 3200+ at 2ghz would either be a clawhammer (which both Anandtech and Overclockers say doesn't exist in 939) or a 90nm Winchester. Also take note at the bottom of every page at Mwave...

Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of all information contained herein. Mwave.com makes no warranty expressed or implied with respect to accuracy of the information

Personally, I already ordered the 3200+ 939 w/ Epox combo and a free copy of Farcry. I want a low budget path to the 939's and this looked like a good one. I don't care much if it is a 90nm or a 130nm as long as I can move to the 939 board although the 90nm would be a bonus. It should be here next Tues if you want to wait I can confirm if it is indeed 90nm. btw - price has already climbed $5 in a day on the 3200+ at Mwave.

 

[ddawson]

It's now $150 at Monarch for the A64 3000 939. The 3200 is now $192 as well.

 

[christoph83]

The 939 3000+ at mwave is now 150.