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Athlon 64 3000+ 939pin Winchester Core Now $163 @ NewEgg

why is the retail $205? it the that's one hell of an expensie cardboard box, and HS+fan $40!!

AND WHEN THE HECK ARE THE PCIe MOBO's COMING OUT!!!!!!!

GD it!!
 
Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
This deal isn't that hot... If you go to Mwave.com they are selling the A64 3000+ 939 RETAIL for $168

Link

That's not the 90nm version though. It says "Die Size: 144 to 193 mm²"
 
At this time, all the Socket 939 Athlon 64 3000 and 3200s are based on the Winchester core, so yes, it is a 90nm part. Perhaps mWave did a cut/paste job on the specifications they've listed (drawing from an older 3500+).

Peace
 
Yep, from Anandtech's article on the 90nm's,

if you can find a 3000+ or 3200+ in Socket 939, you can be confident that it is the new 90nm version.
Which I hope is fact because I just hooked up on Mwaves 3200+ retail 3yr war 939 pin for $204.
 
Originally posted by: manno
why is the retail $205? it the that's one hell of an expensie cardboard box, and HS+fan $40!!

AND WHEN THE HECK ARE THE PCIe MOBO's COMING OUT!!!!!!!

GD it!!

3 years warranty
 
Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
This deal isn't that hot... If you go to Mwave.com they are selling the A64 3000+ 939 RETAIL for $168

Link

That's not the 90nm version though. It says "Die Size: 144 to 193 mm²"


Every 3000+ socket 939 is a 90nm...end of story 🙂

Die Size=actual physical size of the chip...


Hope that helps....

Self
 
3000+ retail sells for 168.00 at mwave.com, thats where im buying mine. 5 bux more for a 3 year warranty, eh you pay shipping wich is like 6 bux i think, not bad for retail 🙂
 
Originally posted by: cyberfuzz
3000+ retail sells for 168.00 at mwave.com, thats where im buying mine. 5 bux more for a 3 year warranty, eh you pay shipping wich is like 6 bux i think, not bad for retail 🙂
yep, and dont forgot to add, you get a free Farcry from Mwave if you get a cpu / mobo combo.

 
Originally posted by: Yourself
Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
This deal isn't that hot... If you go to Mwave.com they are selling the A64 3000+ 939 RETAIL for $168

Link

That's not the 90nm version though. It says "Die Size: 144 to 193 mm²"


Every 3000+ socket 939 is a 90nm...end of story 🙂

Die Size=actual physical size of the chip...


Hope that helps....

Self


Not sure where yours is getting this from, but the Newcastle core socket 939 3000+ was released after the Winchester 3000+ according to this chart so it may well be a Newcastle (i.e. 130 nm core - not very overclockable)
 
Wait, so the 3000+ on mwave is NOT 90nm? I was about to buy that CPU and a Motherboard from that site, but if it's the older socket 939, and not 90nm, then there's no point.

Also, I hear the new 90nm Athlon 64 processors with SSE3 are coming in January. Should I hold out and buy the CPU with the new SSE3 instructions early next year, or go with the non-SSE3 90nm CPUs out now? I'm in no hurry and I hear that the new instructions fix a few glitches and make the CPU more flexible when overclocking?

Anyone have an EXACT date for the NEW SSE3 CPUs?

BlackEvo
 
Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: Yourself
Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
This deal isn't that hot... If you go to Mwave.com they are selling the A64 3000+ 939 RETAIL for $168

Link

That's not the 90nm version though. It says "Die Size: 144 to 193 mm²"


Every 3000+ socket 939 is a 90nm...end of story 🙂

Die Size=actual physical size of the chip...


Hope that helps....

Self


Not sure where yours is getting this from, but the Newcastle core socket 939 3000+ was released after the Winchester 3000+ according to this chart so it may well be a Newcastle (i.e. 130 nm core - not very overclockable)

I got it from the site you linked(about 2 weeks ago, but I see it's been udated recently) and
this article over at Overclockers.com.

I stand corrected. BTW...who actually runs/updates the site you linked....?
 
Not sure, I would like to know as well. But it does appear to have very accurate information, at least historically.
 
So the CPU on mwave is NOT 90nm...damn.

I need to get building on my new PC, was going to jump on this 😉

BlackEvo
 
Well, I didn't say that. All I said is that there are both 90nm (Winchester) and 130nm (Newcastle) socket 939 CPUs in the market right now. Even newegg carries both, for example this 90nm 3500+ and the similar 130nm 3500+. They run at the same speed and have similar performance, but the 90nm is a better overclocker. Now, it's not easy to differentiate without knowing the mfr part number, and mwave doesn't show it.



 
I know there are both 90nm and 130nm 3500s, but didn't know there were 3000s. I thought the 754s were 130nm, and the 939s were 90nm.

Why do they have to make it so hard to order a CPU?
 
There are two kinds of 754 A64's : Clawhammer and Newcastle(754), the difference is CH has double the L2 cache size (1MB). For socket 939 there are also two types: Winchester and Newcastle(939), the difference is process (90 vs 130 nm), but no difference in performance rating (at the same core clock). The difference between the two socket types is that 939 CPUs have dual channel memory.

The 1MB L2 cache is more important to performance than dual channel memory, therefore at the same core clock rate, the socket 754 clawhammer will have the fastest performance from all the above four type of A64 processors.

Actually there is also a socket 939 clawhammer which is used for the extreme high end A64 chips, since it has both dual channel and 1MB L2 cache. But it costs a fortune.
 
i have a question

How come the s939 3000+ is 1.8ghz and the s754 3000+ is 2.0ghz? the s939 is better right?

~RaNDoM
 
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