Athlon 64 3000/3200+ can overclock as high as the 3500+?

[xtknight]

I am going to be buying any of these three Athlon 64 and just wondered if anyone that owns one of the lowest chips can still go as high as the 3500+ overclocked. Thanks.

 

[Appledrop]

yes should do, my 3200+ is at 2.53ghz, but i think that the limitation is my motherboard, because even if i lower the multiplyer, it doesnt like over 255 HTT

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Azzy64
yes should do, my 3200+ is at 2.53ghz, but i think that the limitation is my motherboard, because even if i lower the multiplyer, it doesnt like over 255 HTT

That's still pretty good. Any other results appreciated

 

[Zebo]

Why not? they are they same chips cept for multis... It's all about stepping/date.

But I recommend 3200 just cause mobo and ram configs are more fexible.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Why not? they are they same chips cept for multis... It's all about stepping/date.

But I recommend 3200 just cause mobo and ram configs are more fexible.

Wow, I didn't know that was the only difference. Why are the 3500+s so expensive? Just PR numbers make people warm and fuzzy inside? :Q The 3200+ is $150 cheaper, it seems like a steal if you can overclock just as much.

 

[Duvie]

3000+

2.640mhz 8x330, 3x HTT
166divider, cas 2.5,4,4,8, 1T ~550ddr

Neo2 board is the best for high HTT

 

[xtknight]

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
Athlon 64 3200+
Zalman 7700

You guys think I should be able to hit 2.6 GHz with this setup and a good/lucky CPU chip?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Duvie
3000+

2.640mhz 8x330, 3x HTT
166divider, cas 2.5,4,4,8, 1T ~550ddr

Neo2 board is the best for high HTT

Stock heatsink/fan? Is the A8N-SLI Deluxe as good as the Neo2?

 

[crazyjeeper]

I just hit 2.80 ghz this morning with my 3200+ (939).
It posted and booted to XP, but I doubt it's "stable" but I haven't checked yet.
10x280 (guessed at a 2.6vc)
ram at 5:3 (DDR333 level) c2.5, auto on the rest
The HTT was set at 1000 still, but I think it was really running at 800 b/c of what was reported in Sandra.
This was on an Asus A8V Deluxe Rev2 with a TT Venus7.
I am actually amazed that it would post with a 280 fsb.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Duvie
3000+

2.640mhz 8x330, 3x HTT
166divider, cas 2.5,4,4,8, 1T ~550ddr

Neo2 board is the best for high HTT

Stock heatsink/fan? Is the A8N-SLI Deluxe as good as the Neo2?

I was runningh originally and it would have been fine, but now it is a Venus 12 TT...

I haven't seen enough about it yet since it is soooo new to know if it can OC well and handle the high HTT. YOu will be taking a risk of the unknown here......


I can post windows and run test as high as 2.76ghz with 1.5v and 10% set in windows...Not stable though, and I would stay under 1.6v if was you...

 

[vincentvega18]

apparently there have been some problems with htt around 230-240, best result i seen was 245 with some bh-5 @ 3.2 volts, but seems the best sli/nf4 for high htt will be the msi again, this is judging by onepagebooks results.

 

[crossphyr]

im running a 3200 at 2.5 right now 1:1 but im sure it can do higher, i just finally flashed bios to 1.4 so voltage should beable to be normal now and i should beable to bump it up now to 2.6 but ill have to check stability and crap when i have the time... id go with 3200 u have the extra multiplier.

 

[Idleuser]

Yep i'm running Athlon 3000+ with Msi Neo2 Platinum flashed to 1041 Modded Bios (for extra option) I overclocked it with stock bios 1041 to 2565mhz @ 285 HTT @ 570 DDR. PI stable but not Prime stable. Prime stable at 2.4ghz @ 270 HTT for 7 hours. all on stock voltages except vcore boost to 3% for stability.

My setup is

Msi Neo2 Platinum
2x256 PQI Samsung TCCD @ 2.5-3-3-7 running 1:1 ratio
Athlon 3000+ Socket 939

Picture

Picture Overclocked Click

 

[Sardian]

3200+ 939 at 2.5ghz. On a Asus A8V. Stock cooling and voltage and as stable as a rock. It post fine at 2.60 but fails Prime and also crashes after about 30 minutes of HL2. At 2.5 it will run Prime all day and hasn't blue screened in the 2 weeks it has been running at this speed.

 

[miketheidiot]

my 3200 reached 2.6 at 1.43 volts

 

[GuitarDaddy]

The best CPU overclock I've gotten so far on the A8N-SLI (primed overnight) in 2 1/2 weeks of testing are:

308 x 8.5 = 2620mhz w/ram 206mhz 2-2-2-5

325 x 8 = 2605mhz w/ram 217mhz 2-3-2-5


Although just tonight I discovered how to force a larger memory divider (thanks to the postings in this forum). So I'm hoping to get similar results with ram running at a much better rate like 240-255mhz
to take advantage of my TCCD ram.

 

[sodcha0s]

3000 939 90nm
MSI Neo2 Plat.
running 2.475 stable (9x275) @1.47v
have booted @2565, but not stable

 

[stelleg151]

Mines running at 2.5, but the newer chips will probably get you to 2.6 or 2.7, maybe even higher if you are willing to put 1.6 -1.65 volts in them.

 

[nealh]

Hmmm..I thought 1.65 v was safe

I am currently running prime 95 260x10 with 1.475 w/10 over vid...gives about 1.58/1.6 idle...load 1.62/1.63

so Duvie you are recommending not exceeding 1.6v

 

[jelifah]

Stupid question Alert!!!

If I OC the processor FSB to 240, or even 260, do I have to mess with the RAM at all? Either with a memory divider or by OC'ing the RAM?

Or is it as simple as going in the BIOS and jogging the FSB up? I'm not looking for any crazy OC and would be quite happy with 2.4 on my 3200+ (Although, from what I am reading, I am getting the impression that my newer 3200+ may hit 2.6 with ease)

- Jelifah

 

[crazyjeeper]

Originally posted by: crazyjeeper
I just hit 2.80 ghz this morning with my 3200+ (939).
It posted and booted to XP, but I doubt it's "stable" but I haven't checked yet.
10x280 (guessed at a 1.6vc)
ram at 5:3 (DDR333 level) c2.5, auto on the rest
The HTT was set at 1000 still, but I think it was really running at 800 b/c of what was reported in Sandra.
This was on an Asus A8V Deluxe Rev2 with a TT Venus7.
I am actually amazed that it would post with a 280 fsb.

Prime "Stable" at
10*255
5:3 ram
800 htt
1.55v
So far.

Still screwin around with it though.
It'll play games at 10*271, but I haven't gotten it to hold prime for very long at that speed.

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: jelifah
Stupid question Alert!!!

If I OC the processor FSB to 240, or even 260, do I have to mess with the RAM at all? Either with a memory divider or by OC'ing the RAM?

Or is it as simple as going in the BIOS and jogging the FSB up? I'm not looking for any crazy OC and would be quite happy with 2.4 on my 3200+ (Although, from what I am reading, I am getting the impression that my newer 3200+ may hit 2.6 with ease)

- Jelifah

Absolutely! You have to enter the BIOS and tweak these settings at a minimum.
1. Set the DRAM divider to 166. Since you have PC3200 memory you'll want to keep it running as close to 200MHz as possible. Setting the divider to 166 will keep it under 200MHz when you increase the HT.
2. Set the HT multiplier to 4x. This will keep the HT running under 1000MHz when the FSB is increased. You want to keep the HT running as close to 1000MHz as possible for stability. The speed of the HT is determined by FSB x HT multiplier. Example: Stock speed is 200MHz x 5 = 1GHz. If you bump up the FSB to 240 then you'll want to lower the HT multiplier to 4x: 240MHz x 4 = 960.
A rule of thumb is to keep the HT at 4x for FSB between 200 and 250 MHz. Set HT to 3x for FSB over 250MHz.
3. Try your overclock with stock voltages for RAM and CPU first. If you have trouble getting it to run stable then try tweaking up the CPU voltage in small increments.

 

[Tschaft]

Friend of mine just got a 3000+ DTR. It runs at 1.8ghz stock.
We wereu able to get it p to 255x9=2295mhz@ 1.5 volts. It runs everything completely stable.
If I raise the fsb up to 259 it wont boot at all even if I lower the multiplier or raise the voltage. 258 works fine though. I have the ram set to 333, its running at 208mhz(pc3200 corsair), I dont think its the ram though because I had the ram running at 245mhz earlier in the day before I set it down to 333.
Can anyone suggest anything I could try out? Im pretty sure the chip will go higher, I just cant get it to boot past the bios if I raise it to 259 or higher no matter what I try.
I have an asus k8n. My temps are around 41 idle and tops out at 58.

 

[superkdogg]

My 3000+ does 2.4 (9x266) really easy. I've posted it a little higher, but haven't had it long enough to nail down a firm ceiling. Temps are manageable @ around 43-4C idle and 60C under load with the stock cooler and 1.5 vCore. As has been said, they should be pretty much identical depending on the week of manufacture.

 

[xtknight]

Thanks for all the results guys. Keep 'em comin'