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Athlon 1.7 GHz

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Pederv

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Mind you this is second hand information, but a friend of a friend does hardware compatibility testing and he's gotten the chance to play with an Athlon 1.7 GHz. He says it runs cooler than the 1.33 GHz, he says this puppy is screamin, he says he can no longer recomend Intel.
Question is when do the rest of us get to see one?
 
Pederv,

Well, seeing as how AMD just came out with the 1.4Ghz and the Palomino is scheduled to start at 1.5Ghz, I seriously doubt there would be a 1.7Ghz stock CPU floating around for your friend to get his hands on. Is it stamped at 1700 or is it just overclocked to 1.7? I'm guessing the latter.

 
I'm having a hard time believing this:

If he is testing at load, there's no way the 1.7 is "cooler" than a 1.33. Currrent Athlon MP processors are a 15-17% wattage drop when testing at load.

He could potentially not be loading the cpu's. If he's comparing idle temps, then yeah, the athlon 4 has more core optimizations and will likely idle much lower than current athlons.

somehow I likewise doubt that 1.7 athlon4s are floating around.


Mike
 
But remember, oem's get samples way before we hear about it, for qualification. This guy works in the qualification dept. of one such company. I remember when he got to test the first slot A Athlon, it was about 3 months afterward that they were released.
 
and in 3 months, athlon 1.5ghz desktop Athlon4s are supposed to be out. Now, a 1.5 beign slighly cooler than a 1.33 i can sort of believe. Yeah, he's a qualification place, but AMD does not necessarily need to send him the very fastest chip to do that job. He could be pulling your chain, and i'm judging this from his heat comments. More suspect would be if he's claiming this on socket-thermistor readings.


Mike
 
Well, why isn't he testing the 1.5Ghz Palomino? It sounds a little suspicious being that the P4 is currently at 1.7. I could be wrong though...actually I hope I'm wrong as I own AMD stock 😉
 


<< From what I'm told, yes. >>



This doesnt answer the question stamped or oced?



<< But remember, oem's get samples way before we hear about it, for qualification. This guy works in the qualification dept. of one such company. I remember when he got to test the first slot A Athlon, it was about 3 months afterward that they were released. >>



Well remember about six months before the T-bird was released, this one fellow named &quot;The Maniac&quot; came on screaming that he had this new T-bird and took may beleivers with him. Turned out he never posted the screenshots he promised 🙂 so guy around here want some solid proof!
 
Actually, Palominos don't &quot;have to start&quot; at 1.5. I have a Palomino 1.2. It's an older one though (week 9, 2001. No rounded corners. 🙁).

Also, it is so hard to keep an Athlon cool, Palomino or not. If he is running a CPU at 1.7 GHz, how the hell is he cooling it. 😉

I've worked close with AMD on many occasion and I have no clue how he might have scored a 1.7 GHz. :Q I'm thinking it's an overclocked Palomino. 😉
 
Idiot56209,

True, but I'm referring to the single CPU desktop release of the Palomino, not the server or mobile markets.
 
I can't offer any &quot;proof&quot; as I said, this is second hand information. The only reason I think the information may be true is because he was correct about the slot A Athlon. He was impressed by it, but it wasn't enough for him to convert from Intel. With his experience with the AMD product he is currently testing, he says he's very seriously considering converting.
 


<< I can't offer any &quot;proof&quot; as I said, this is second hand information. The only reason I think the information may be true is because he was correct about the slot A Athlon. He was impressed by it, but it wasn't enough for him to convert from Intel. With his experience with the AMD product he is currently testing, he says he's very seriously considering converting. >>



I don't understand this mentality of conversion. Amd and intel are not mutually exclusive. YOu can run systems from both compahy's and still be happy you know 🙂
 
I think he may be testing a range of frequencies. I'm told he made the comment that the P4 1.7GHz runs like an Athlon 1.2GHz. According to Tom's the P4 1.7GHz and the TBird 1.4GHz are neck and neck in most apps. Has anyone seen any benchmarks that show:
Athlon4-1.2GHz = TBird-1.4GHz = P4-1.7GHz
or that they are at least very close?
 
Raspewtin


what is different between srvr version and workstation vrs?

Nothing really. One is just out before the other. AMD has not officially announced the Palomino for the single CPU desktop market. Other than the MP support, the chip is the same. I think you can drop an MP supported Palomino into a workstation mobo without any problems though.

 
Yeah AMD did a wonderful PR job to make evryone believe that all the Plaominos will be running cooler then the Thunderbirds. That is just not the case, they didn't mean run cooler all around, the meant clock for clock. a 1.4 Tbird would run hotter then a 1.4 Palo, sure. But they are using that advantage to allow the Plao to break the 2 gig mark, somethinga Tbird would boil at.
 
ST4RCUTTER has an intresting signature...i was thinking about it and it came to me if world war 3 used nukes and we nuked everything and people survived and destroyed technology and we would have to fight with sticks and stones...wow...nice signature...
 
Raspewtin:

Athlons have always been able to run SMP, but one of the big hold ups was thermal conditions. You get two Athlons running side by side in the same rig and it's unreal! So, what the &quot;server version&quot; is, is just an Athlon that runs cooler, thus can easily be used SMP with typical cooling, for a little more money (the 1.2s tend to be $200 instead of $125 for example).
 
RE:&quot;Athlons have always been able to run SMP, but one of the big hold ups was thermal conditions. You get two Athlons running side by side in the same rig and it's unreal! So, what the &quot;server version&quot; is, is just an Athlon that runs cooler, thus can easily be used SMP with typical cooling, for a little more money (the 1.2s tend to be $200 instead of $125 for example).&quot;

Not totally true.
Palominos are a totally redesigned core compared to Thunderbird.
Athlon 4 (Notebook), Athlon MPs (server) and Palomino workstation and desktop are all the same chip except that only the Athlon 4 MAY have PowerNow enabled. The rest is launch marketing.
The Palomino core does consume about 20% less current.

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