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Athletic Supplement Rant

beer

Lifer
OK I'm going to rant here for a second.
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It really pisses me off when newbie weightlifters go to Creatine the second week of them lifting because "they don't see any progress. One of my friends did this. He got a membership to the Q, went about a week and a half, complianed that he wasn't seeing any results, then bought some Creatine.

Number one, he does the same muscle group every day. His idea of a workout routine is Bench and then arm curls, and he will do that and then leave. He has been doing that six days a week. He's been on Creatine since early December.

Second, Creatine is an ATHLETIC SUPPLEMENT. It is to help those that play sports to hit harder, sprint faster. This particular guy weightlifts just to look buff. He looks like a fuc-king tub now that he's on creatine since he never does any cardio at all.

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these guys are not clued up. they should not really be going for maximal lifts anyway so early in their training. First, they have to anatomically adapts tendons and joints to the weights, which means less weight, more reps, and get the right motions.
I think people should do significant cardio twice a week at least alongside weights.
Creatine should be used for those maximal exertion trainees. maybe that twit will graduate to steroids in week 3 :frown:
 
creatine is not to help you hit harder and run faster. It is to help you recover faster from your workouts. so you can work out more and harder.
 
Actually, Renob, creatine sure helps you run somewhat faster (this is the very reason creatine exists in the body at all). To recover from workout - naah! It doesn't help much taking creatine afterwards. But on the other hand, since there will be somewhat less fatigue after creatine loading, you're not completely wrong either...
 
Yes, you do recover from workouts faster. Read this...
What is creatine and where does it come from?

Simply put, creatine monohydrate is the most popular and effective bodybuilding supplement on the market. Everyone consistently using creatine is making HUGE, AMAZING gains!


There is one good reason why three out of four of the '96 summer Olympic medallists used creatine: it works and it works well. A French scientist first discovered creatine in 1832, but it was not until 1923 that scientists discovered that over 95% of creatine is stored in muscle tissue. The first published report of creatine having bodybuilding effects was The Journal of Biological Chemistry in, get this, 1926! Although we?ve known about creatine for quite some time, the first real use of it to enhance performance was the 1992
Olympic games in Barcelona, Spain.

So, what is creatine? Our bodies naturally make the compound, which is used to supply energy to our muscles. It is produced in the liver, pancreas, and kidneys, and is transported to the body's muscles through the bloodstream. Once it reaches the muscles, it is converted into phosphocreatine (creatine phosphate). This high-powered metabolite is used to regenerate the muscles' ultimate energy
source, ATP (adenosine triphosphate).

Unlike steroids or drugs, creatine is 100% natural and occurs naturally in many foods; therefore, it can never be banned from any sports or international competitions (unless they banned eating meat). Many foods especially herring, salmon, tuna, and beef contain some creatine. However, the very best source of creatine by far is creatine monohydrate because it contains more creatine per weight of material than any other source. Purchase only high quality 99.9% pure pharmaceutical-grade creatine monohydrate.

What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?


Creatine is bodybuilding's ultimate supplement, and for good reason. For one thing, creatine can significantly increase lean muscle mass in just two weeks. It is also responsible for improving performance in high-intensity exercise, increasing energy levels, and speeding up recovery rates. It?s no wonder athletes who use it have such of an edge over those who do not. Soon nearly every athlete who competes will use it (if they don't already). Creatine's ability to enhance energy reserves in muscles comes from its muscle protein synthesizing action, while minimizing protein breakdown. This occurs because creatine has the awesome effect of super-hydrating muscle cells with water. It enhances muscles' growth too-making muscle fibers bigger and stronger.

Quite a few studies have been done on creatine to figure out why and how it works so well. There have been over twenty double blind (meaning neither the researchers nor the subjects knew who was getting what), placebo-controlled studies conducted on creatine in the
past five years. They proved that creatine increased energy levels, resulting in increased strength, endurance levels, and recovery rates. Another unexpected benefit attributed to creatine was discovered as well: creatine accelerates fat loss, while building lean body mass!

Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?


First, anyone who is ready to have more energy, build more muscle faster, and have more endurance should try supplementing with creatine monohydrate. Next, anyone who would like to be more toned by increasing lean muscle mass, recuperating faster, and losing that extra little fat roll should supplement with creatine monohydrate. Last, anyone who is involved in intense physical activity, experiencing physical stress and fatigue, and likes incredible results should supplement with creatine monohydrate.




 
Some studies indicate creatine helps speed recovery because it draws H2O into the muscles. Creatine will make you faster if you are sprinting. 400 meters runnig is considered to be the max distance to derive any benefit. Similar studies for swimmers and runners indicate only sprinters gain a small advantage.

Most lifters would be better off not taking creatine to get stronger. We have no long term studies of the safety of the drug, so I'd urge caution. If you do use it, use it after a couple of years of lifting and you have reached a serious plateau. Elemental's friend will not be lifting weights or doing anything serious with his life if he brings the same level of patience he has demonstrated to his other activities.

By the way, I'd buy only the German creatine because it is the purest. It's regulated by the German government, I believe.
 
MooseKnuckle--

Where did you get that info? It's so tainted with marketing BS it's hard to discern if there's any truth in there or not.

l2c
 
I can't stand people like that, my brother is in the gym a lot, he has great form, like he does sets with no waste, we sometimes watch people on the bench or something arching their back and squirming all around just to push up more weight and trying to look cool, it's totally pointless cause all they are doing it wasting time trying to impress people. Plus tell your buddy, aside from his creatine rant, that he needs to do all the groups, back/legs/shoulders/etc. You ever hear the phrase "curls are for girls", it doesn't mean that girls do them it means people who do just them (and bench along with that) pretty much do it to try to impress others, if they were interested in actually doing things correctly they would do a proper program.
 
My buddies are somewhat the same only they just do roids instead, after working out a couple weeks, and then can't handle the loss in size, loss of pump, loss of strength after they go off them and end up stopping working out all together. I find it pretty funny actually cause they just seem to repeat this process every year right before summer to look good for the beach. I guess if yer gonna die anyway ya mise well do it on your own terms eh
 
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