Which laptop vendor?
I can speak with relative authority since I work for a major wireless chip vendor and have been involved in problems such as you describe. The NMI you are seeing is probably the system BIOS flagging an SERR (PCIE unrecoverable error) since it doesn't recognize the PCI device ID, system ID, or subsystem or subvendor IDs when it enumerates the PCI config space. It is doing this because of the fact that it helps the laptop vendor ensure FCC compliance and minimize tech support calls from people who swap hardware like you just did. Please read my previous post for vendor that flag SERR or block against unqualified wireless adapters.
A later BIOS may disable the SERR flag but I doubt it and you won't get support from your laptop vendor either for this. There's no real way around this, and that is part of the reason why I issued my warning as I did above against doing what you just did.
I can speak with relative authority since I work for a major wireless chip vendor and have been involved in problems such as you describe. The NMI you are seeing is probably the system BIOS flagging an SERR (PCIE unrecoverable error) since it doesn't recognize the PCI device ID, system ID, or subsystem or subvendor IDs when it enumerates the PCI config space. It is doing this because of the fact that it helps the laptop vendor ensure FCC compliance and minimize tech support calls from people who swap hardware like you just did. Please read my previous post for vendor that flag SERR or block against unqualified wireless adapters.
A later BIOS may disable the SERR flag but I doubt it and you won't get support from your laptop vendor either for this. There's no real way around this, and that is part of the reason why I issued my warning as I did above against doing what you just did.
But AFAIK, HP does it in a way that when you boot up a laptop with an unsupported card, it'll right out give you an error and refuse to proceed, whereas the problem I and others are having with this atheros card in a Dell laptop is that the Dell laptop throws a BSOD every once in a while, kinda unpredictably. That's kind of an odd way for Dell to implement this SERR thing, I would think.
Just got mine - installed on my E1505 with VistaUltimate - connects at superG 108mb with my Dlink router - nice
Yes, you are correct.
Dell does not assert SERR with insertion of an unsupported wrieless card. If it blue screens, and this were the case, it would be an NMI and there would be no crash trace, as is the case with NMIs.
More than likely, if you look at the crash dump of this dell BSOD and did a stack backtrace there'd be the Atheros or some other driver sitting on or near the top of the stack. If it was an SERR assertion you wouldn't see a driver since the line would be asserted when the config space is enumerated.
I don't think people understand the complexity of PCIE cores and all the bad things that can happen with ASPM power management and all the workarounds that go into making those laptops stable. Just swapping cards and assuming they're going to work is rolling dice.
I got one of these and also got the 1802 error (can't have two network cards installed), it's IBM/Lenovo's way of whitelisting anything they don't want you to buy or use.
The workaround was amazingly simple:
1. create a DOS bootable floppy (or CD)
2. Add the file no-1802.com to that floppy/CD
3. Boot from the media, and at the DOS prompt type "no-1802.com"
It will run, and it will change the one checksum in the BIOS so it doesn;t look for whitelisted cards.
Making this post from my Thinkpad T30 with this card in it.
Great card! I see networks from all over my neighborhood now, and I can go upstairs (a good 80 feet from the router) and still have 100% signal strength.
Just be sure to pop off the MINIPCI cover on the bottom of your machine to be sure the antenna wires are there first, otherwise you need to take your LCD apart to place the antenna rails and cabling along the inside frame of the LCD. You'll know the wires, one is While, labeled MAIN, the other is black, labeled AUX.
Enjoy!
First off... great deal OP!
Secondly this card will definitely extend your range a bit and it also has great support in linux distributions and will do monitor mode which supports packet injection. My Dell M90 has an Intel 3495 and unfortunately i have no means for packet injection or monitoring so i did some research and found this beast http://www.demarctech.com/products/reli...300mw-atheros-802.11a-b-g-cardbus.html
I'll have to admit it's a bit pricey but i can pickup AP's that are on the other side of the complex with it and of course it supports injection and monitoring.
I might have to pick one of these up just to throw in my Dell.
Secondly this card will definitely extend your range a bit and it also has great support in linux distributions and will do monitor mode which supports packet injection. My Dell M90 has an Intel 3495 and unfortunately i have no means for packet injection or monitoring so i did some research and found this beast http://www.demarctech.com/products/reli...300mw-atheros-802.11a-b-g-cardbus.html
I'll have to admit it's a bit pricey but i can pickup AP's that are on the other side of the complex with it and of course it supports injection and monitoring.
I might have to pick one of these up just to throw in my Dell.
I bought an Everex xt5000t from Officemax a week ago and it has the AR5006EG in it. Seems to have great range, but I couldn't connect to my Zyxel router until I used the drivers here:
RadarSync
BTW, If anybody is looking for a good DTR with some gaming capabilities, I would highly recommend this notebook. Especially for the $849 price tag.
RadarSync
BTW, If anybody is looking for a good DTR with some gaming capabilities, I would highly recommend this notebook. Especially for the $849 price tag.
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I am using a Dell Inspiron 9400 and was able to get rid of the NMI errors (so far it is testing clean) by updating to the IBM Lenovo drivers that were in the first post. I guess the drivers that come with the Atheros tool really are bad.
for some reason I cannot fathom Dell seems to think my HDD is bad (I was testing various things with them trying to track this down before I figured out that it was a driver issue. Having nothing to work from definitely did not make this an easy fix.
I do have the A07 (latest) bios for my laptop too.
for some reason I cannot fathom Dell seems to think my HDD is bad (I was testing various things with them trying to track this down before I figured out that it was a driver issue. Having nothing to work from definitely did not make this an easy fix.
I do have the A07 (latest) bios for my laptop too.
If it's a BIOS issue as beer described, it's not going to be fixed by updating the driver. You'll need to hack either the BIOS of the laptop or the eeprom of the wireless card.
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Well before I updated the driver every time my laptop would try to goto sleep from inactivity I would get the NMI error. Once I updated the driver to the 112D linked above my laptop now sleeps when it should without getting the NMI. Thus it looks like a driver issue.
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1) Unplug laptop
2) Remove battery
3) Unscrew screw holding plate marked 'C' on bottom of laptop
4) Unplug both antenna's from old wireless card and release the card via the tabs.
5) Plug in Atheros card into slot, make sure it is tight
6) plug both antenna's back in, black wire to Aux, white wire to main.
7) Screw plate back on marked 'C'
8) Put battery back in
9) Plug laptop in, turn on and install drivers.
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So! In my rush to buy my Super Talent memory and remembering that someone had successfully used a Gigabyte GN WIAG02 card for their OSx86 install, I got that one and this one mixed up and bought a PCI-e card that I can't use.
I'm thinking that I can either give it to my sister to use (wasted), resell it or just use it in my soon-to-be new C2D setup...but how would I go about attaching the antenna? I'm sure I could solder it on here, but wouldn't want to do that...any ideas?
That, or does anybody want it? $25 shipped for my mistake.
(Not much of a price difference, but it's brand new)
I'm thinking that I can either give it to my sister to use (wasted), resell it or just use it in my soon-to-be new C2D setup...but how would I go about attaching the antenna? I'm sure I could solder it on here, but wouldn't want to do that...any ideas?
That, or does anybody want it? $25 shipped for my mistake.
(Not much of a price difference, but it's brand new)verified working in an asus w3j. no more dropped connections under low signal conditions like with the stock intel chip. working well with my DI-634 superG router.
is there a mini pci version? What the range people are getting. Has anyone tested it with netstumbler. I was hoping this is the mini pci version http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=GN-WI01GS but I can't find if it uses the atheros 5006gs chip. BTW anyone tried one of the engenius 400mw cards?
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