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Atheists face death in 13 Muslim countries

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Atreus21 said:
Fine, if that's going to be your definition. If Christians did it once, it's no different than muslims doing it a thousand times. By that logic, atheists have done it too.
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I am certain many Atheists have done many vile things. However, none have done it because Atheism compels them to do so. That is the difference.
 
Originally Posted by ThinClient
If no one can prove that one exists, why would it be reasonable in any way to even consider that one may exist?
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If no one can prove that God does not exists, why would it be reasonable in any way to even consider that one may not exist?
 
Rob M. said:
Who did I call "crazy"? 🙄
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Sorry, you didn't actually call someone crazy. You just implied that you don't trust someone's Biblical interpretation wholesale if they took the days as literal. Which in light of your rationales now seems especially weird...
 
ThinClient said:
Yes.

I am an asshole.

By the way, questions end with question marks, druggie.
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No, what you are is a person who will not see that you have the same kind of faith based mind as the people you ridicule. It doesn't make you an asshole, it makes you a hypocrite, a faith based delusional who has no proof at all but believes but hates others who do that.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
You're an idiot to think something can come from nothing.

You're a dumbshit retarded idiot that thinks a youtube video makes him correct.
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You're an idiot to think that a god exists.

You're a dumbshit retarded idiot that thinks making fun of a youtube video without watching it with an open mind is a reasonable counter to the evidence supplied in the video.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
Atheists like Thinclient is under the delusion that they're smart. Reality is that they're stupid as shit and show it by acting like morons.
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Theists like Rob Moron and Pray to Jesus are under the delusion that they're smart. Reality is that they're stupid as shit and show it by acting like morons.

See, I can do it too.
 
peonyu said:
I see where you are going with that, but it still doesnt disprove or prove anything. The simple fact is when you die you dont know if there is or isnt anything after that. Thats all there is to say. We could reincarnate, or not, or go to hell/heave. Or have nothing.Who the fuck knows?
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Completely agreed.

However, various religions claim different things and also claim to be the one true religion, so we must rely on evidence to decide which one is telling the truth.

Since there is none, they're all bullshit.
 
JEDIYoda said:
If no one can prove that God does not exists, why would it be reasonable in any way to even consider that one may not exist?
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Because you cannot prove a negative and that's not how the nature of evidence, hypothesis, theory, and truth work.

What you've just typed out is a logical fallacy. Come on, JY, you're smarter than this.
 
MrPickins said:
Originally Posted by Fern View Post
It's not a question of validity (assuming I understand your use of the term). Rather that when Jesus came Christians were freed from the requirements of those laws. I have read papers on it and it gets a bit complicated, at least it did for me, suffice it to say Christians do not feel any obligation to conform to all those rules that the poster quoted.

However, where in Old Testament it is mentioned that something is a sin or an affront to God they will respect that. Those however are different than the rules listed above or the dietary laws that Jews follow.

Fern
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Interesting. I wasn't really aware of that freedom from requirement.

In regards to the bolded part, though, who gets to make this choice? Who says that the part of the Old Testament dealing with killing nonbelivers is not be considered but the part about homosexuals is?

I'm really not trolling. I'm honestly curious.
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I'm not a theologian. As I mentioned above I've read papers on how the arrival of Christ satisfied or freed Christians from the laws in the Old Testament. And I also said that didn't fully understand them. So, take my remarks as you will.

The way to heaven in the Old Testament was strict adherence to the laws laid down therein. Christ's arrival fundamentally changed this; in the New Testament adherence won't get the job done. The only way is through Christ. Who "made this choice"? Why Christ himself, that is what the New Testament is about.

To my knowledge, no Christians think homosexuals should be killed as the Old Testament demands. If there are any who do, IMO, they are demonstrably wrong. E.g., Christ was questioned about this adherence to Old Testament laws by the Jewish religious leaders of the day (Pharisees?). Specifically, an adulterous woman, which (if I understand correctly) the Old Testament requires stoning/killing. Christ's response was "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" (I'm probably paraphrasing a bit, but think it's fairly accurate). So, Christ himself 'chooses' which to follow.

OTOH, things like the 10 commandments are still respected by Christians. I.e., statements in the Old Testament that define what sin is are still valid. However, the Old Testament punishments are no longer need be followed. So, homosexually would still be considered a sin, but there is no longer any authority, or need, to stone/kill someone who commits that or any other sin. In fact (IMO), it would be a violation of the New Testament/Christ's teachings (a sin) to do so. Again, I'm not a theologian (I don't even go to church) so apologies in advance to any Christians who disagree.

Fern
 
Number of people murdered by atheists:

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered



Millions of reasons to believe that a lot of atheists don't have morals when it really matters.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
Number of people murdered by atheists:

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered



Millions of reasons to believe that a lot of atheists don't have morals when it really matters.
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Atheism isn't responsible for those deaths any more than liberal lefties are responsible for those deaths you stupid fuck.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
Atheism is responsible for those deaths.
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How can you be this stupid?



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You can make the claim until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't make it true, dipshit.
 
ThinClient said:
How can you be this stupid?

You can make the claim until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't make it true, dipshit.
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For anyone who is remotely intelligent it's apparent that atheism is responsible for those deaths.

The degree of responsibility is up for discussion. How many more people were murdered by atheists because their atheism allows them to sleep soundly at night after spending their day murdering people?
 
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ThinClient said:
You're a dumbshit retarded idiot that thinks making fun of a youtube video without watching it with an open mind is a reasonable counter to the evidence supplied in the video.
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I don't need to watch a video to know that from nothing, nothing comes.

Only a dumbshit retard like you can't understand that simple concept.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
For anyone who is remotely intelligent it's apparent that atheism is responsible for those deaths.

The degree of responsibility is up for discussion.
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How Many Have Been Killed by Communists in the Name of Atheism & Secularism?:

None, probably. How can that be? After all, millions and millions of people died in Russia and China under communist governments — and those governments were both secular and atheistic. So weren't all of those people killed because of atheism — even in the name of atheism and secularism? No, that conclusion does not follow. Atheism itself isn't a principle, cause, philosophy, or belief system which people fight, die, or kill for. Being killed by an atheist is no more being killed in the name of atheism than being killed by a tall person is being killed in the name of tallness.
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Hitler Was an Atheist Who Killed Millions in the Name of Atheism, Secularism

A popular image of the Nazis is that they were fundamentally anti-Christian while devout Christians were anti-Nazi. The truth is that German Christians supported the Nazis because they believed that Adolf Hitler was a gift to the German people from God. Hitler frequently referenced God and Christianity both in public and private. The Nazi Party Program explicitly endorsed and promoted Christianity in the party platform. Millions of Christians in Germany not only enthusiastically supported and endorsed Hitler and the Nazis, but did so on the basis of common Christian beliefs and attitudes.
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http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/p/AtheismKills.htm
 
Pray To Jesus said:
I don't need to watch a video to know that from nothing, nothing comes.

Only a dumbshit retard like you can't understand that simple concept.
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Only a dumbshit religiotard like you isn't willing to accept further evidence in an effort to re-evaluate the conclusion drawn from said evidence.

You are the poster child for bigotry.
 
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