Atheists Call 9-11 Memorial Cross "Grossly Offensive"

[buckshot24]

Hey look, another person attacking a one letter spelling mistake. So petty. Birds of a feather flock together. At least Rob has company so that is good.

When you're calling people retarded you better make sure you don't misspell something in the statement or you're going to get it. Sorry that's just how it is.

 

[buckshot24]

Oh the irony is delicious.

Except he claimed that it was evidence. A story isn't evidence.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Anybody interested in prophecy? I have a prophecy that we can use to test my supernatural powers.


I do hereby declare and foresee that buckshot24 will fail to respond to each of the three following questions with a simple "Yes," or "No" within the next 48 hours.

• Do you believe that God is living?
• Do you believe that God has always existed?
• Do you believe that life came from non-life?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Basically.

"Is" is a verb. "Life" is a noun. You think these words are "basically" the same?

A claim you agreed with. haha

You appear to be imagining things again. Look, if you're not gonna stop licking your screen, at least choose a less toxic cleaner to use on it.

It isn't as if you explicitly state your point.

Anyone is welcome to go review my posts from my initial engagement with you. I have been clear about my position since the outset.

It wasn't really meant to do that.

You don't get to tell me the meanings of my arguments.

I didn't think I needed to rigorously establish that life had a beginning.

You didn't think you'd need to establish a claim that completely lacked evidence whilst you endlessly harassed others for evidence of another claim you already believed in the first place?

Really? Do you really lack that much self-awareness?

Since I never even tried to show that it was impossible I'm not sure what you could be talking about.

Your claim that "something must have begun or we aren't here" is exactly an attempt to show that it is impossible for life to have always existed. You weren't ambiguous in your language. "Must" denotes necessity, which precludes any other possiblity.

So no, you're lying. Again.

 

[buckshot24]

Do you believe that God is living?

Yes

Do you believe that God has always existed?

Yes

Do you believe that life came from non-life?

Yes

Can we stone you now?

 

[soulcougher73]

I only did that because you felt the need to call people retarded while brain-farting the spelling of a common word.

Oh no. The world ended and my words had no meaning. Anyone who attacks a simple mispelling is beyond help. Way to ignore the message man. Keep up the good fight with Fuckshot. Opps i missed another letter.

 

[soulcougher73]

Except he claimed that it was evidence. A story isn't evidence.

Do you hold this same standard to the bible? I was under the impression you were a Christian. If not, my bad.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Yes
Yes
Yes

Can we stone you now?

No, it's just fun to see your own inconsistencies laid bare again. I just laid suitable bait to produce it. Clearly nobody should ever take you seriously.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I do hereby declare and foresee that I fail

lol

 

[Pray To Jesus]

No, it's just fun to see your own inconsistencies laid bare again. I just laid suitable bait to produce it. Clearly nobody should ever take you seriously.

Clearly nobody should ever take you seriously.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

...

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I know, PTJ, I know. Someday you might be able to swim in the deep end, but until then, it's water wings for you.

 

[buckshot24]

"Is" is a verb. "Life" is a noun. You think these words are "basically" the same?

I must enjoy this as I'm getting drawn back into your idiocy.

You appear to be imagining things again. Look, if you're not gonna stop licking your screen, at least choose a less toxic cleaner to use on it.

I use organic cleaners.

Anyone is welcome to go review my posts from my initial engagement with you. I have been clear about my position since the outset.

Seems that you asked a few questions leaving your point not explicitly stated. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

You don't get to tell me the meanings of my arguments.

I was talking about my comment, not yours. The meanings of your comments are, it appears, to troll.

You didn't think you'd need to establish a claim that completely lacked evidence whilst you endlessly harassed others for evidence of another claim you already believed in the first place?

I don't believe what atheists believe about the origin of life. And no I shouldn't need to establish that life had a beginning when every person here believes that it did. Including you.

Your claim that "something must have begun or we aren't here" is exactly an attempt to show that it is impossible for life to have always existed. You weren't ambiguous in your language. "Must" denotes necessity, which precludes any other possiblity.

Yes with the assumption that there was a time that life did not exist. It had nothing whatsoever to do with a claim about life always existing or not existing. The statement makes no sense if life has always existed. If life did not exist then my statement is perfectly true. If life has always existed then it is absolutely meaningless.

So no, you're lying. Again.

No, you're being stupid again.

 

[buckshot24]

No, it's just fun to see your own inconsistencies laid bare again. I just laid suitable bait to produce it. Clearly nobody should ever take you seriously.

I knew you'd do this. I took off the qualifiers to see if you'd be shallow enough to do what you did. I was right.

 

[buckshot24]

Do you hold this same standard to the bible? I was under the impression you were a Christian. If not, my bad.

To a point but faith isn't science. Paul was asked for evidence and he just told me a story about how he thinks it happened. I wouldn't expect you to accept the bible as evidence that God created the universe either. Same thing.

 

[buckshot24]

Oh no. The world ended and my words had no meaning. Anyone who attacks a simple mispelling is beyond help. Way to ignore the message man. Keep up the good fight with Fuckshot. Opps i missed another letter.

Irony is not your thing, huh? Awfully sensitive aren't you. It's ok, lots of people can't spell. Nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I must enjoy this as I'm getting drawn back into your idiocy.

*MY* idiocy? I'm not the person that can't tell nouns from verbs. I know 3rd graders that can do that.

I don't believe what atheists believe about the origin of life.

You don't know what you believe. You simultaneously believe that life always existed and that life came from non-life.

And no I shouldn't need to establish that life had a beginning when every person here believes that it did. Including you.

You must've gotten that from my repeated insistance that I don't believe life had a beginning. It seems you are insistent on believing the opposite of what is plainly true.

Yes with the assumption that there was a time that life did not exist.

Yes, if we assume there was a time life did not exist, then its totally reasonable to believe that there was a time life did not exist. Is that how your thinking actually works?

It had nothing whatsoever to do with a claim about life always existing or not existing.

How can you possibly assert that an "assumption that there was a time that life did not exist" "had nothing whatsoever to do with a claim about life always existing or not existing." Are you fucking serious?

The statement makes no sense if life has always existed.

The statement makes no sense because there is no logical contradiction with an infinite regress, of which the negative integers are an example.

If life did not exist then my statement is perfectly true.

No, it is still bad reasoning. Your problem is that you did not understand that I was attacking your argument, not necessarily your conclusion. You immediately projected a position on to me that I do not hold and then tried to argue with me about it.

If life has always existed then it is absolutely meaningless.

No, it's bad reasoning, regardless of the truth of the conclusion.

No, you're being stupid again.

That falls a little flat, coming from you.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I knew you'd do this. I took off the qualifiers to see if you'd be shallow enough to do what you did. I was right.

Shallow? Ha! I'm not the one trolling a forum making up my position as I go just to be a disagreeable shit.

 

[werepossum]

No, we're just not floored by someone else's argument from incredulity.

It's fine if you are, though.

In other words, you've got nothing but you aren't going to let it shake your faith. Gotcha.

Hey look, Rob has nothing and is attacking one letter of a mispelling.

If you call people stupid without proper grammar and spelling, you WILL be mocked. You MUST be mocked. This is not optional. It's not just a good idea, it's Internet law, and without it there would be only anarchy. Well, anarchy and the FBI pretending to be hot promiscuous underage sex pots. Same thing, really.

 

[buckshot24]

*MY* idiocy? I'm not the person that can't tell nouns from verbs. I know 3rd graders that can do that.

Yes, you're being an idiot if you think I was comparing the two words. I was talking about the general idea of your BS.

You don't know what you believe. You simultaneously believe that life always existed and that life came from non-life.

Biological life came from non-life. I answered your questions even though I knew you were using them equivocally. Do I think God is a biological living being? NO. You fail again.

Yes, if we assume there was a time life did not exist, then its totally reasonable to believe that there was a time life did not exist. Is that how your thinking actually works?

That isn't what I said. This is just deceitful.

How can you possibly assert that an "assumption that there was a time that life did not exist" "had nothing whatsoever to do with a claim about life always existing or not existing." Are you fucking serious?

I wasn't talking about the underlying assumption. I was talking about the statement you've been complaining about.

The statement makes no sense because there is no logical contradiction with an infinite regress, of which the negative integers are an example.

Abstractly, sure, but there are problems with an actual physical infinite number of things.

Anyway, if life has always exist then it couldn't start to exist. It makes no sense. If you have always been stupid we can't say that you started to be stupid at some point in time.

No, it is still bad reasoning. Your problem is that you did not understand that I was attacking your argument, not necessarily your conclusion. You immediately projected a position on to me that I do not hold and then tried to argue with me about it.

No it is perfectly reasonable. I may have jumped to the wrong conclusions based upon your questioning, I fully admit it.

The only way that my statement (paraphrased) "that something needed to start replicating or we aren't here" is untrue is if life has always existed. You were saying my statement isn't true so I assumed you were talking about life existing eternally.

No, it's bad reasoning, regardless of the truth of the conclusion.

It is perfectly fine reasoning given the assumption of life not being eternal. An assumption that everybody in the thread was working under except you.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

In other words, you've got nothing but you aren't going to let it shake your faith. Gotcha.

In other words, you enjoy sexually molesting farm animals and furry woodland creatures.

This is a "put ridiculous things in another person's mouth" contest, right?

 

[buckshot24]

Shallow? Ha! I'm not the one trolling a forum making up my position as I go just to be a disagreeable shit.

Yes, shallow. My position hasn't changed once.

 

[soulcougher73]

If you call people stupid without proper grammar and spelling, you WILL be mocked. You MUST be mocked. This is not optional. It's not just a good idea, it's Internet law, and without it there would be only anarchy. Well, anarchy and the FBI pretending to be hot promiscuous underage sex pots. Same thing, really.

I guess i should be arrested for breaking Internet Law. I'm a law breaker everyone

I never point out others petty mispellings. Its beneath me. As long as the message was clear that is all that matters to me.

 

[buckshot24]

I never point out others petty mispellings. Its beneath me. As long as the message was clear that is all that matters to me.

I don't usually either. But you can't call somebody a "moran" or similar and expect not to get heat over it. Your behavior afterwords is worse than the original offense, IMO. You look like an insecure school girl.

 

[Retro Rob]

In other words, you enjoy sexually molesting farm animals and furry woodland creatures.

This is a "put ridiculous things in another person's mouth" contest, right?

You mad, brah?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Shallow? Ha! I'm not the one trolling a forum making up my position as I go just to be a disagreeable shit.

You are wrong. Clearly nobody should ever take you seriously you disagreeable shit.