Atheist 10 commandments

[bshole]

Seems to me that's very confused thinking. That our values change is an indictment of humanity, not of the values themselves. Murder, slavery, and rape remain wrong no matter how many people delude themselves of their rightness.

I take it you are not a Christian or maybe just God is deluded....

Murder and rape.....

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. -- Numbers 31:15-18

As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I take it you are not a Christian or maybe just God is deluded....

Murder and rape.....

That's a wonderfully hypocritical perspective coming from you. Did God tell you that Wilson needed to be tried and punished because blacks will burn us all out of our homes or was that merely your personal evil displaying itself, something you nurtured yourself?


BTW, in the New Testament you would find how slaves and masters are to act in regard to one another. No, no one said "thou shalt not have slaves", but there were warnings against abuse with consequences, for those who mistreated slaves. Now being the morally superior creature you pretend to be just what you have done back in those days? Probably hide, indeed you probably would have condemned any ethical treatment lest Rome consider you a rebel.

You shouldn't consider lifting a stone much less casting it.

 

[Retro Rob]

I take it you are not a Christian or maybe just God is deluded....

Murder and rape.....

"Love your fellow man as yourself" -- see, there it is...love without conditions.

I mean, seriously. We can go about this all day, pick and choose and isolate passages to make them say what we want void of any context -- that's called "quote mining".

And you wonder why I think atheists are nothing but religious fundamentalists just without a invisible god.

 

[Rakehellion]

If there is nothing more than the reality we see, if there is no being who has access to wisdom beyond ours and therefore more capable of defining right and wrong then there is no such thing. They are merely constructs, artifices with absolutely no more validity than any other. Why not be a mass murderer? The suffering, the consequences, all are meaningless. From the very first moment the universe popped out of the vacuum to where it fades into oblivion at the end of all things and all in between, nothing has meaning other than the arbitrary values we assign and none of those are any more or less valid than any others. It's merely a consensus and the power to enforce it that causes a thing to be right or wrong. Literally everything is meaningless because there cannot be meaning except for the things we assign value to and that isn't lasting in any case. You can make "commandments" and argue they are good for society, but that's a construct too. It's what we come up with to make us feel better. Slavery? It was right then and wrong now, but that's opinion and nothing more. There is no such thing as morality in the fabric of the universe and all options and opinions are equally valid, or invalid as they are all ultimately meaningless in any possible objective sense.

Depressing isn't it?

Cool nihilism, bro. You don't know what morality is.

 

[Subyman]

I mean, seriously. We can go about this all day, pick and choose and isolate passages to make them say what we want void of any context -- that's called "quote mining".

Oh, like your signature?

 

[Rakehellion]

I see; your opinion is that only absolute rules have meaning. That inspires me to write another non-commandment:

Try to be mindful that just because something is meaningful to you doesn't mean that it's meaningful to others; and just because something is meaningless to you doesn't mean that it's meaningless to others.

The entire concept of atheism is that we don't have an absolute system of morals. But then they make a system of morals specifically designed to reflect another's system. A spinoff.

 

[Rakehellion]

Oh, like your signature?

:awe: :awe: :awe: :awe: :awe: :awe: :awe:

 

[alzan]

"Love your fellow man as yourself" -- see, there it is...love without conditions.

I mean, seriously. We can go about this all day, pick and choose and isolate passages to make them say what we want void of any context -- that's called "quote mining".

And you wonder why I think atheists are nothing but religious fundamentalists just without a invisible god.

Onward Christian soldier!!

 

[TreVader]

I'm not sure if I'm an atheist or a Christian or what. I celebrate the birth of Santa Clause but I don't go to church.

 

[Retro Rob]

Onward Christian soldier!!

Lol

 

[Retro Rob]

Oh, like your signature?

Are there no scientists that believe in God?

 

[ivwshane]

I'm not sure if I'm an atheist or a Christian or what. I celebrate the birth of Santa Clause but I don't go to church.

I think that makes you catholic.

 

[SlowSpyder]

"Love your fellow man as yourself" -- see, there it is...love without conditions.

I mean, seriously. We can go about this all day, pick and choose and isolate passages to make them say what we want void of any context -- that's called "quote mining".

And you wonder why I think atheists are nothing but religious fundamentalists just without a invisible god.

What would you say is out of context? You're earning brownie points for heaven, warp things so it seems like it is the reader's perception that is wrong, not your holy book that called for slavery, murder, and genocide... keep fighting the good fight, maybe you'll get a closer seat to jesus.

Oh yea, in post 36 I asked you a question. You said atheism lacks substance and originality. What in christianity do you consider original?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Cool nihilism, bro. You don't know what morality is.

Thank you for sharing your opinion. Now precisely how do you know what I do and do not know from a few posts in a thread on the internet? I'm not young enough to know everything, which makes me a bit like Oscar Wilde and quite unlike you it seems. I don't even know what I don't know.

 

[zinfamous]

Are there no scientists that believe in God?

Well, the guy in your quote doesn't, for one.

But it is all very relative. There are fields in science where the base knowledge and preponderance of evidence does not absolve the existence of an almighty. Astrophysics, for one. At least, currently. That doesn't mean that all astrophysicists are also theists. Some are, some are not.

You and I have discussed this before and I think we are both in agreement here.

The same can't be said for a Biologist. If you hold some idea that an omniscient being directs evolution, then you are simply a poor biologist. This doesn't preclude non-biologists (lets go back to astrophysicists) from positing that such a thing as ID is both sound and probable. In fact, the only scientists you will find supporting ID are not Biologists. This really isn't their field anyway, so their lack of experience with evolutionary theory shows. Often, you find such scientists--whom might even be brilliant in their own particular field--make the same broken and uninformed assumptions regarding evolutionary theory as any layman would.

 

[Rakehellion]

it's mostly a bunch of neckbeards sitting around and making lame jokes about the FSM, trying to convince themselves they're smarter than everyone else.

Pretty much. Redditors are turning atheism into religion.

They believe in "logic" but get emotionally invested in the affairs of others. It's just a big circle jerk.

 

[Rakehellion]

Thank you for sharing your opinion. Now precisely how do you know what I do and do not know from a few posts in a thread on the internet? I'm not young enough to know everything, which makes me a bit like Oscar Wilde and quite unlike you it seems. I don't even know what I don't know.

You're a nihilist and are strongly convinced it's the one absolute truth.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You're a nihilist and are strongly convinced it's the one absolute truth.

Again thank you for your opinion. Tell me, where does your absolute knowledge come from? Considering that at the outset I said that what followed didn't reflect necessarily reflect MY personal beliefs and perspectives, rather one possible viewpoint with a chain of consequences. You also seem to have missed my later posts where I hardly say we should ignore the needs of others, but rather the reverse. But you are very very young regardless of your chronological age and I must make certain allowances for your omniscience.

 

[Rakehellion]

The same can't be said for a Biologist. If you hold some idea that an omniscient being directs evolution, then you are simply a poor biologist.

It doesn't matter what you believe as long as you follow the scientific method. That is, prove things rather than assume them to be true. You can follow science and religion at the same time, just like you can be a mathematician who doesn't know much about chemistry, or a mechanic who doesn't know how to bake cookies.

 

[Subyman]

Are there no scientists that believe in God?

I don't think there is any rational person that would say a scientist can't believe in creationism. The old saying goes: science looks to answer how our universe works, not why. A god could have created the universe we live in. Science makes no claim to why the universe came into existence or by who, if there is a who.

FWIW, I was quoting you as a joke, no actual argument intended

 

[Rakehellion]

Again thank you for your opinion. Tell me, where does your absolute knowledge come from? Considering that at the outset I said that what followed didn't reflect necessarily reflect MY personal beliefs and perspectives, rather one possible viewpoint with a chain of consequences. You also seem to have missed my later posts where I hardly say we should ignore the needs of others, but rather the reverse. But you are very very young regardless of your chronological age and I must make certain allowances for your omniscience.

What you're saying is exactly what I said.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What you're saying is exactly what I said.

So you don't have any understanding. That's progress.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Pretty much. Redditors are turning atheism into religion.

They believe in "logic" but get emotionally invested in the affairs of others. It's just a big circle jerk.

What god(s), that I don't believe in, should I worship as an atheist?

 

[Retro Rob]

Well, the guy in your quote doesn't, for one.

That's fine, as he only represents one. I agree that this is all relative, especically seeing that in his field, he doesn't see evidence of creation, yet, another one will.

This is precisely why I don't care about what scienctists say as regards what they see as evidence or non-evidence...I make up my own mind about it.

Don't get me wrong, it helps to have the support of science, but reality simply isn't determined by popular vote.

The same can't be said for a Biologist. If you hold some idea that an omniscient being directs evolution, then you are simply a poor biologist. This doesn't preclude non-biologists (lets go back to astrophysicists) from positing that such a thing as ID is both sound and probable. In fact, the only scientists you will find supporting ID are not Biologists. This really isn't their field anyway, so their lack of experience with evolutionary theory shows. Often, you find such scientists--whom might even be brilliant in their own particular field--make the same broken and uninformed assumptions regarding evolutionary theory as any layman would.

Yep, and this is why I pretty much know there are closet creationists in biology...if there is any field of science that is completely hostile to god, its biology.

But as the saying goes, one man's bad design is another man's supreme engineering.

 

[alzan]

That's fine, as he only represents one. I agree that this is all relative, especically seeing that in his field, he doesn't see evidence of creation, yet, another one will.

This is precisely why I don't care about what scienctists say as regards what they see as evidence or non-evidence...I make up my own mind about it.

Don't get me wrong, it helps to have the support of science, but reality simply isn't determined by popular vote.



Yep, and this is why I pretty much know there are closet creationists in biology...if there is any field of science that is completely hostile to god, its biology.

But as the saying goes, one man's bad design is another man's supreme engineering.

And another salvo is fired