Atheism for the WIN! YES!!!

[StageLeft]

Really?
How many times have athiests knocked on your door to "tout their beliefs"?
How many channels on Sunday do athiests take over and get to "tout their beliefs"?

I don;t care what others beliefs are. The problem is when they try to force them on me. Never had a athiest screaming at me when I was in college. Never had a athiest standing on the side of the road telling me to do something or I would go to a bad place. Never had a athiest try and get money from me so I would go to a good place. etc...

None for your questions, maybe three times for the others in my entire life.

Most people who aren't religious don't give a shit but there are those who just have to go around telling each how stupid everyone else is and how smart they are. For them it's a religion of boosting their ego, and I have to say that group looks just as foolish as the Creationists. It's the "all about me" religion.

Again, exactly what I have found.

 

[ShawnD1]

I think it's fair to include questions about US laws. The point of those is that a lot of religious people in the US don't get it. They don't understand the laws and they don't understand why they can't do certain things. They don't understand how separation of church and state works, they don't understand why you can't put 10 commandments in front of a court house, and they don't understand why you can't teach creationism as fact.


It's not a shocker that atheists scored the highest. They are the few people who have actually read the bible

 

[PokerGuy]

True, but let's not pretend that you and other theists would be swayed by any conclusions that are supported by presented evidence.

Once again, ASSuming facts not presented into evidence. ()

 

[PokerGuy]

It makes complete sense that atheists would 'score' better on this survey. The survey asks questions about different religions. Atheists, having no particular religious beliefs themselves, are more likely to at least have a little interest in reading about all the religions out there. People of a particular faith are less likely to know details about faiths other than their own, as they probably have less interest in learning about a faith other than their own.

This is just a fail survey designed to let atheists pat each other on the back to reassure themselves of their superiority.

 

[zsdersw]

Once again, ASSuming facts not presented into evidence. ()

There's been plenty of evidence in reading every post of yours (and others) on religious topics.

 

[Vette73]

It makes complete sense that atheists would 'score' better on this survey. The survey asks questions about different religions. Atheists, having no particular religious beliefs themselves, are more likely to at least have a little interest in reading about all the religions out there. People of a particular faith are less likely to know details about faiths other than their own, as they probably have less interest in learning about a faith other than their own.

This is just a fail survey designed to let atheists pat each other on the back to reassure themselves of their superiority.

Might want to read again. Many were missing very basic questions about THEIR religion.

Just some points...


¶ Fifty-three percent of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the man who started the Protestant Reformation.

¶ Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Christ.

 

[Atreus21]

How could only 51% of Americans know that Joseph Smith was the first Mormon? Dont you guys ever watch South Park?

I'm ashamed to admit that's the only reason I knew about Joseph Smith, too.

 

[PJABBER]

I used to watch South Park religiously, but I lapsed.

 

[lothar]

Belief in the absence vampires is a religion?

Err, no. You're an idiot. Atheism is the default mode of thinking. If you want us to believe in something then show us evidence, otherwise STFU.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

 

[nageov3t]

most atheists I've encountered are significantly more interested in religion than your average christmas/easter church-goer.

 

[Atreus21]

Belief in the absence vampires is a religion?

Err, no. You're an idiot. Atheism is the default mode of thinking. If you want us to believe in something then show us evidence, otherwise STFU.

I would say that our simple existence is evidence of an act of creation at some point. We don't observe objects simply coming into being all by themselves, so by inference one can assume that everything is brought into being by some other force.

Is there anything in the universe that accounts for its own existence? Apparently not, or at least not that we've observed. Everything is caused by something else. From that you can extrapolate that there must've been a first cause, which was not itself caused. Whatever it is, it had to exist always, eternally, outside of time. Which is inconceivable to us.

I don't see what's so horribly dogmatic and illogical about the first cause argument.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Might want to read again. Many were missing very basic questions about THEIR religion.

Just some points...


¶ Fifty-three percent of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the man who started the Protestant Reformation.

¶ Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Christ.

So what is the criteria for being a Catholic or Protestant? Would a person who goes to church for a Christmas service once a year but doesn't think about it the rest of the year qualify and how do you know? What about people who are raised in a Catholic home but never bother to go except to weddings and funerals? Do atheists know more about the Bible than white evangelicals. Surely your superior mind knows before posting so how about it?

 

[Vette73]

So what is the criteria for being a Catholic or Protestant? Would a person who goes to church for a Christmas service once a year but doesn't think about it the rest of the year qualify and how do you know? What about people who are raised in a Catholic home but never bother to go except to weddings and funerals? Do atheists know more about the Bible than white evangelicals. Surely your superior mind knows before posting so how about it?

Actually the Church would say they are not true Catholics. Again if religious people actually knew what their religion was about they would already know this.

That and whats the point to go to church if you do not believe in what they preach?

 

[PokerGuy]

There's been plenty of evidence in reading every post of yours (and others) on religious topics.

Full of it as usual. Got it.

 

[PokerGuy]

Might want to read again. Many were missing very basic questions about THEIR religion.

Just some points...


¶ Fifty-three percent of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the man who started the Protestant Reformation.

¶ Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Christ.

Actually, I did read that. The article does not provide information on that breakdown. For example, what percentage of atheists could identify Martin Luther as the man who started protestant reformation? That would tell you whether the atheists or protestants were more informed about that particular religion. Fail article + fail survey + fail OP = all around fail.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Belief in the absence vampires is a religion?

Err, no. You're an idiot. Atheism is the default mode of thinking. If you want us to believe in something then show us evidence, otherwise STFU.

I would say that our simple existence is evidence of an act of creation at some point. We don't observe objects simply coming into being all by themselves, so by inference one can assume that everything is brought into being by some other force.

Is there anything in the universe that accounts for its own existence? Apparently not, or at least not that we've observed. Everything is caused by something else. From that you can extrapolate that there must've been a first cause, which was not itself caused. Whatever it is, it had to exist always, eternally, outside of time. Which is inconceivable to us.

I don't see what's so horribly dogmatic and illogical about the first cause argument.

Here's what many people equally believe caused all existence:
Pastafarianism

More info:
Flying Spaghetti Monster

And may you be touched by his noodly appendage

..

 

[Vette73]

Actually, I did read that. The article does not provide information on that breakdown. For example, what percentage of atheists could identify Martin Luther as the man who started protestant reformation? That would tell you whether the atheists or protestants were more informed about that particular religion. Fail article + fail survey + fail OP = all around fail.

Yes we get it, you are butt hurt and trying to see it "your" way.
Yea I hate it when facts get in the way as well.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Actually the Church would say they are not true Catholics. Again if religious people actually knew what their religion was about they would already know this.

That and whats the point to go to church if you do not believe in what they preach?

I'm not interested in what the Church says. I'm interested in selection criteria because someone who responds to a question like "Do you believe in God" with "I guess so" isn't qualitatively the same as one who actively practices. The first is disinterested, the latter not. It seems the article says it, you believe it and that settles it. That's what annoys me about some folks in that they do not look for context but are quick to show how clever they are.

 

[zsdersw]

Full of it as usual. Got it.

Non-answer as usual. Got it.

 

[Vette73]

I'm not interested in what the Church says. I'm interested in selection criteria because someone who responds to a question like "Do you believe in God" with "I guess so" isn't qualitatively the same as one who actively practices. The first is disinterested, the latter not. It seems the article says it, you believe it and that settles it. That's what annoys me about some folks in that they do not look for context but are quick to show how clever they are.

Hahaha... so the people that got the questions wrong are not "real" Catholics or whatever their religion is.

Wow and I thought PG was butt hurt.

 

[Atreus21]

Here's what many people equally believe caused all existence:
Pastafarianism

More info:
Flying Spaghetti Monster

And may you be touched by his noodly appendage

..

Do you have a counter-argument?

 

[GoPackGo]

I am Lutheran and got all but the last one right...

 

[PokerGuy]

Non-answer as usual. Got it.

You didn't ask a question, and you expect an answer? Are you really that dense? You make a blanket assertion that my opinion could not be swayed, and I told you you're full of it.

Thank goodness for humanity that you won't procreate :thumbsup:

 

[ShawnD1]

¶ Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Christ.

I went to catholic school for 12 years, and this was never explicitly mentioned. They would say this is the blood and body of Christ, but they never said if it was a metaphor or not. We all just assumed it's a metaphor since it's obviously not actual blood.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yes we get it, you are butt hurt and trying to see it "your" way.
Yea I hate it when facts get in the way as well.

I pointed out that the information you assert was not present in the article. You come back with the usual drivel. Care to you actually prove me wrong, or you can just admit that in your haste to prove your superiority you didn't actually comprehend what was presented as evidence versus the conclusions being reached. Join the fail train, all aboard!