ATF being investigated in Border Patrol agent killing / whistleblower intimidation

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Apparently Senator Charles Grassley is not a man to be trifled with...

Cliffs:

ATF sells hundreds of assault weapons in border states to traffickers who run them to Mexico.

Two turn up in the shooting death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

OIG investigation says their "Project Gunrunner" is unsuccessful.

So Grassley wants a briefing on what is going on. After his first letter, apparently the Phoenix ATF office started accusing the employee who was feeding information to Congress of misconduct. Bad move.

He takes it pretty seriously.

While I have no real interest in the fight, the ATF seems to be one of the only offices to make, interpret and enforce it's on laws.

 

[Texashiker]

The ATF has a reputation of breaking the law, and being above the law - Waco and Ruby Ridge are examples.

Nothing will come of this. Or maybe Senator Charles Grassley will die in a plane crash or skiing accident before anything serious turns up.

 

[Skitzer]

ATF is a loose cannon in this Country ... they do what they want without consequences.

 

[tk149]

Wow, that's eff'd up. No government agency should be unaccountable.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Why would ATF be selling weapons to traffickers?

 

[CPA]

While I have no real interest in the fight, the ATF seems to be one of the only offices to make, interpret and enforce it's on laws.

No, there are many offices that do that.

 

[Scotteq]

Why would ATF be selling weapons to traffickers?

That's my question, as well: WTF is the ATF doing (allegedly) selling weapons!?!?


{edit} Looked up "Project Gunrunner" - and it's apparently/supposedly an effort to track the movement of grey market weapons. I do not see where it's an effort to sell, or to set up Sting~type busts...

So the question remains: WTF were they (allegedly) thinking if/when they (allegedly) sold weapons?


Another edit: Here's a .pdf from the Justice Dept: http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e1101.pdf


And an article about the shooting and subsequent investigation:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...enix-gun-store-atf-sting-border-shootout.html


The last article says that two of the weapons used in the AZ shooting were "traced to Project Gunrunner", and originated in a Glendale AZ store...


Deep Doo Doo for the ATF, I should think...

 

[Texashiker]

Why would ATF be selling weapons to traffickers?

Maybe the BATF is throwing weapons out on the market to see where they turn up at? Kinda like releasing a tagged fish to see where it goes and where it was caught?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Why would ATF be selling weapons to traffickers?

Maybe the BATF is throwing weapons out on the market to see where they turn up at? Kinda like releasing a tagged fish to see where it goes and where it was caught?

One usually releases neutered fish if they can damage the environment by spreading.

 

[iGas]

I saw a video on Youtube a few years back that shown American, including some officials in Texas that sells guns to unbeknown people for cash with out ID & said WTF back then.

Project Gunrunner

 

[Texashiker]

One usually releases neutered fish if they can damage the environment by spreading.

The government considers it collateral damage.

 

[BoberFett]

Clearly we need better gun control laws in this country.

Wait, what?

 

[Throckmorton]

Who ratted out the whistleblower?


Why isn't the whistleblower being protected by the FBI or something? How the fuck is a letter from a Congressman going to protect him from being murdered by the ATF?

 

[Texashiker]

Clearly we need better gun control laws in this country.

Yep, it appears to me that the government needs some kind of background check and waiting period before they can buy or sale weapons.

Want to sale some AK-47s to a drug lord? Your going to need to run a background check on the drug lord, and the person making the sale. And then there is a 7 day waiting period before the drug lord can take possession of the firearm.

 

[BoberFett]

Yep, it appears to me that the government needs some kind of background check and waiting period before they can buy or sale weapons.

Want to sale some AK-47s to a drug lord? Your going to need to run a background check on the drug lord, and the person making the sale. And then there is a 7 day waiting period before the drug lord can take possession of the firearm.

Considering that the ATF is now a felon, that department should be prohibited from ever owning a firearm again.

 

[xj0hnx]

Considering that the ATF is now a felon, that department should be prohibited from ever owning a firearm again.

If they were dissolved this country would be a better place.