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coldmeat

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I was at a friend's cottage this summer and we had chicken for dinner. The chicken we ate was really good, so later that night I was drunk and decided to go have some left overs. I ate the whole piece, leg and thigh, before my friend came over and pointed out that it was bleeding. Turns out the chicken was really only cooked on the outside. It still tasted good and I didn't get sick.
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: coldmeat
I was at a friend's cottage this summer and we had chicken for dinner. The chicken we ate was really good, so later that night I was drunk and decided to go have some left overs. I ate the whole piece, leg and thigh, before my friend came over and pointed out that it was bleeding. Turns out the chicken was really only cooked on the outside. It still tasted good and I didn't get sick.

coldmeat lol
 

WA261

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I don't get how you could not notice. You MUST have been lit in one way or the other.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Frankly, in this day and age, you're more likely to win the lottery than eat tainted raw chicken.

Someone has never seen Kitchen Nightmares...
You'd be wrong. I DVR Kitchen Nightmares (along with The F Word and Hell's Kitchen) and have seen them all. I've seen all the Good Eats, Iron Chef (Japan), and Iron Chef America as well. I also DVR Anthony Bourdain, DD&D, Chopped, Top Chef, Next Food Network Star, and I can't wait for the Next Iron Chef which starts on Oct 4.

Check the stats. Today you're most likely to get salmanella from tainted vegetables than from a raw meat. That's because some farms will use poultry manure as a fertilizer on their vegetables and the shit is where salmanella comes from. Chicken (and other meats) is so highly processed today, including irradiation, that you're highly unlikely to get any illness from eating a raw piece.

Do you mean salmonella? You may want to learn how to spell it properly before spouting off like some FDA expert.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/h...lmonella-chicken_x.htm

"From 2000 through 2005, there was a fourfold increase in positive test results for salmonella enteritidis on chicken carcasses."

Beef, poultry, milk, and eggs are most often infected with salmonella. NOT Veggies. They are linked to Salmonella cases as well, but it's eggs and chicken that are the most common infected foods.

This is a trend that you're seeing more and more now with cases like this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27034940/

Educate before you make yourself look stupid.

Maybe he meant food poisoning in general.

http://findarticles.com/p/arti...3/is_1_30/ai_97296397/

If today is an average day in the United States, 13 people will die from food poisoning. Another 200,000 will get sick for a few days. And several thousand more may begin to suffer reactive arthritis, paralysis, or other symptoms that can last for months or years (see "Food Poisoning's Long Shadow," May 2002, p. 1).

Which foods cause the outbreaks that sicken the most people? "Fruits and vegetables top the list," says Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of food safety at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (which publishes Nutrition Action Healthletter).

CSPI has just issued the fifth edition of Outbreak Alert, a tally of food poisoning outbreaks in the U.S. since 1990 in which the food sources have been identified. (The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention--CDC--declares an outbreak when at least two people who eat the same contaminated food get sick. Since 1990, 2,472 outbreaks have sickened 90,355 people.)

"About half of the fruit-and-vegetable outbreaks were caused by salads, berries, raw sprouts, and lettuce," notes DeWaal. "Four out of every ten produce outbreaks were the result of bacteria, viruses, and other pathogens that are commonly found in meat and poultry," she adds. That means that the fruits and vegetables were probably contaminated in the fields with tainted water or manure.

FWIW, I eat rare steak, have eaten steak tartare & raw eggs don't bother me (cookie dough FTW). I'm still alive. :p
 

whylaff

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Originally posted by: Exterous
Has it been long enough since the OP has posted that we can assume he died from the chicken?

It has been a while.

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I will order sashimi tonight in his honor.
 

StinkyPinky

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Hahaha! That manager is hilarious.

"Oh shit, i'm sorry I've given you raw chicken and therefore doomed you to three nights of shitting gravy and puking. Hey, I'll give you a $4 discount"

Roffle. And you accepted it. That's even more funny.

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Leros
I ordered a burger at a nice steak restaurant once. Took a bite and it was the best burger I've ever tasted. I look down at it and the meat is completely raw. Just barely browned on the outside.

I told our waiter. The manager came over. He apologized profusely. A new order was placed in the front of the line and I had it in about 5 minutes. Our entire meal was free and all that jazz. I would happy with the treatment and would have been mad at anything less.

So you got a great burger, and you complained?:confused:

I get my burgers as rare as the kitchen is willing to make it. Usually it's only a tiny bit pink, no matter how much I plead.
 

krylon

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I've seen no pics so I conclude he is dead next to his ugly fat gf.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Frankly, in this day and age, you're more likely to win the lottery than eat tainted raw chicken.

Someone has never seen Kitchen Nightmares...
You'd be wrong. I DVR Kitchen Nightmares (along with The F Word and Hell's Kitchen) and have seen them all. I've seen all the Good Eats, Iron Chef (Japan), and Iron Chef America as well. I also DVR Anthony Bourdain, DD&D, Chopped, Top Chef, Next Food Network Star, and I can't wait for the Next Iron Chef which starts on Oct 4.

Check the stats. Today you're most likely to get salmanella from tainted vegetables than from a raw meat. That's because some farms will use poultry manure as a fertilizer on their vegetables and the shit is where salmanella comes from. Chicken (and other meats) is so highly processed today, including irradiation, that you're highly unlikely to get any illness from eating a raw piece.

Do you mean salmonella? You may want to learn how to spell it properly before spouting off like some FDA expert.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/h...lmonella-chicken_x.htm

"From 2000 through 2005, there was a fourfold increase in positive test results for salmonella enteritidis on chicken carcasses."

Beef, poultry, milk, and eggs are most often infected with salmonella. NOT Veggies. They are linked to Salmonella cases as well, but it's eggs and chicken that are the most common infected foods.

This is a trend that you're seeing more and more now with cases like this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27034940/

Educate before you make yourself look stupid.

Maybe he meant food poisoning in general.

http://findarticles.com/p/arti...3/is_1_30/ai_97296397/

If today is an average day in the United States, 13 people will die from food poisoning. Another 200,000 will get sick for a few days. And several thousand more may begin to suffer reactive arthritis, paralysis, or other symptoms that can last for months or years (see "Food Poisoning's Long Shadow," May 2002, p. 1).

Which foods cause the outbreaks that sicken the most people? "Fruits and vegetables top the list," says Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of food safety at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (which publishes Nutrition Action Healthletter).

CSPI has just issued the fifth edition of Outbreak Alert, a tally of food poisoning outbreaks in the U.S. since 1990 in which the food sources have been identified. (The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention--CDC--declares an outbreak when at least two people who eat the same contaminated food get sick. Since 1990, 2,472 outbreaks have sickened 90,355 people.)

"About half of the fruit-and-vegetable outbreaks were caused by salads, berries, raw sprouts, and lettuce," notes DeWaal. "Four out of every ten produce outbreaks were the result of bacteria, viruses, and other pathogens that are commonly found in meat and poultry," she adds. That means that the fruits and vegetables were probably contaminated in the fields with tainted water or manure.

FWIW, I eat rare steak, have eaten steak tartare & raw eggs don't bother me (cookie dough FTW). I'm still alive. :p

Did you even bother READING the article????? It only furthers my point that Salmonella in chicken is getting worse.

Another idiot is born. His whole argument was that it is unlikely to get Salmonella from raw chicken these days. That you are more likely to win the lottery than get Salmonella from chicken. The article you posted says....

"A new Consumer Reports analysis found Salmonella or Campylobacter in about half of the whole fresh chickens it purchased at supermarkets nationwide. And some of the bacteria were resistant to human antibiotics. If you become ill after eating chicken contaminated with antibiotic-resistant bacteria, you may get sicker and stay sick longer."

"The CDC estimates that people who ate chicken out in 1998 and 1999 were twice as likely to get sick with a Salmonella infection than people who ate chicken only at home."

fucking idiots trying to defend this toolbag don't have a fucking clue. Eating raw chicken is STUPID.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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As a Chef, I have been on both sides of the problem and each case is unique. However, as a foodservice professional, I would most likely comp the meal UNLESS, the guests had eaten most of the order AND, in my opinion, the order was undercooked rather than raw. Again, as a guest, I would not appreciate undercooked chicken either but, I would have quickly got the attention of the waiter after the first bite or two.

The fact that the OP and his gf did not notice anything amiss until the order was almost gone, suggests that either the order was underdone (pink != raw) or, they were drunk as skunks. Bottom line, did the OP or his gf get sick and when? Whichever, the dining experience was poor and as a result, the OP and his gf most likely will not return to the same restaurant.

I strive to treat guests as I would guests in my own home however, a guest who demands compensation might get it but, they would also get my invitation to dine elsewhere in the future. I may offer compensation in the form of a free meal but that is my choice not the guest's. The dining experience is a two way street, guests are not mindless automatons who bear no responsibility for their own dining experience.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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how the fuck did you eat chicken wings with a mother fucking fork?

You were dead before you even poked it.
 
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
fucking idiots trying to defend this toolbag don't have a fucking clue. Eating raw chicken is STUPID.
You've got issues kid.

I'm not ADVOCATING eating raw chicken. I'm saying that eating a piece of pink chicken is unlikely to get you sick. And as another article already demonstrated, more people get Salmonella from fruits and vegetables.

So take a chill pill. btw, people who have to resort to being a fucking spelling Nazi have instantly lost any argument they are making.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
fucking idiots trying to defend this toolbag don't have a fucking clue. Eating raw chicken is STUPID.
You've got issues kid.

I'm not ADVOCATING eating raw chicken. I'm saying that eating a piece of pink chicken is unlikely to get you sick. And as another article already demonstrated, more people get Salmonella from fruits and vegetables.

So take a chill pill. btw, people who have to resort to being a fucking spelling Nazi have instantly lost any argument they are making.

HE IS HITLER!
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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too dumb to realize he ate raw chicken and then tips for the pleasure. epic thread brah.
 
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
fucking idiots trying to defend this toolbag don't have a fucking clue. Eating raw chicken is STUPID.
You've got issues kid.

I'm not ADVOCATING eating raw chicken. I'm saying that eating a piece of pink chicken is unlikely to get you sick. And as another article already demonstrated, more people get Salmonella from fruits and vegetables.

So take a chill pill. btw, people who have to resort to being a fucking spelling Nazi have instantly lost any argument they are making.

HE IS HITLER!
Allegedly, Hitler was somewhat of a vegetarian. But real vegetarians disagree because they don't want to be associated with Hitler.

http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/hitler.html
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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I was at Steak & Shake when my friend was served raw fried chicken tenderloins. If you want to know how it was "raw" and fried at the same time, well, they were obviously frozen.

We were served. He ate some. It was cold. He cut open another. He looked inside. It had frozen parts and was completely raw except for the very surface that was breaded/fried. Got it?

You can suspend the bottom of a water-filled paper cup over a candle flame and it will not burn until the last drop evaporates due to convection. Meat doesn't work as well as water, but the effect is the same. If it is still frozen anywhere in the center, the surrounding area is conducting that cold to the hot surface (I know, the reverse is technically true, but you get it). It's "sinking" it like a heat pipe. Until the whole thing begins to warm to cooking temps, only the surface is hot enough to cook.
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Frankly, in this day and age, you're more likely to win the lottery than eat tainted raw chicken.

Someone has never seen Kitchen Nightmares...
You'd be wrong. I DVR Kitchen Nightmares (along with The F Word and Hell's Kitchen) and have seen them all. I've seen all the Good Eats, Iron Chef (Japan), and Iron Chef America as well. I also DVR Anthony Bourdain, DD&D, Chopped, Top Chef, Next Food Network Star, and I can't wait for the Next Iron Chef which starts on Oct 4.

Check the stats. Today you're most likely to get salmanella from tainted vegetables than from a raw meat. That's because some farms will use poultry manure as a fertilizer on their vegetables and the shit is where salmanella comes from. Chicken (and other meats) is so highly processed today, including irradiation, that you're highly unlikely to get any illness from eating a raw piece.

Do you mean salmonella? You may want to learn how to spell it properly before spouting off like some FDA expert.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/h...lmonella-chicken_x.htm

"From 2000 through 2005, there was a fourfold increase in positive test results for salmonella enteritidis on chicken carcasses."

Beef, poultry, milk, and eggs are most often infected with salmonella. NOT Veggies. They are linked to Salmonella cases as well, but it's eggs and chicken that are the most common infected foods.

This is a trend that you're seeing more and more now with cases like this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27034940/

Educate before you make yourself look stupid.

This man speaks the truth. Why do you other people think that more people get sick from fruits and veggies? Because you don't have to cook it! You are comparing mass consumption of primarily COOKED meats to primarily RAW fruits and veggies to console someone who ate RAW meat. THE COMPARISON DOES NOT APPLY!
 

Boo Boo

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are you shitting out of both ends?

if not tell thre g/f to stfu

know your place. and get a pair of balls you pussy
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You don't get sick from eating raw food. Raw chicken won't affect you unless it's tainted with salmanella. Frankly, in this day and age, you're more likely to win the lottery than eat tainted raw chicken.

Personally, I like a bit of pink in my chicken and pork, and I eat beef very rare. The taste is so much better. Dried out, overcooked meat sucks.

Complete bullshit.


From Consumer Reports:

"If you eat undercooked or mishandled chicken, our new tests indicate, you have a good chance of feeling miserable. CR?s analysis of fresh, whole broilers bought nationwide revealed that 83 percent harbored campylobacter or salmonella, the leading bacterial causes of foodborne disease."

Dont screw around with chicken.

I guess TastesLikeChicken is as much of a chicken expert as I am a Jello expert ;)
Nice misleading scare tactic from CR.

Most people don't realize it but everyone of us has salmonella living in our guts. It's prevalent in both humans, birds, dogs, retiles, and many other animals. The other flora in our intenstines control it though. A minor amount of salmonella is not going to hurt anyone unless the bacteria in your gut is compromised. Where it causes a problem is in food that is left out and the salmonella is permitted to proliferate beyond a level where your gut can control it. That's why raw vegetables can be more of a problem in salmonella outbreaks because veggies are often stored at room temp or at a temperature that'a not low enough to prevent salmonella from multiplying.

While I wouldn't claim to be an expert on chicken, I do know something about food since I frequently provide catering for groups of up to 100 people. I never serve jello though. ;)

Holy fucking shit, remind me to never eat where you're catering. You're fucking terrible at your job, TBH.
 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: CZroe
I was at Steak & Shake when my friend was served raw fried chicken tenderloins. If you want to know how it was "raw" and fried at the same time, well, they were obviously frozen.

We were served. He ate some. It was cold. He cut open another. He looked inside. It had frozen parts and was completely raw except for the very surface that was breaded/fried. Got it?

You can suspend the bottom of a water-filled paper cup over a candle flame and it will not burn until the last drop evaporates due to convection. Meat doesn't work as well as water, but the effect is the same. If it is still frozen anywhere in the center, the surrounding area is conducting that cold to the hot surface (I know, the reverse is technically true, but you get it). It's "sinking" it like a heat pipe. Until the whole thing begins to warm to cooking temps, only the surface is hot enough to cook.

This happened to us at Perkins, wife ordered fried chicken and the cook breaded it and dropped it in the fryer while still frozen, she took one bite and knew it was raw in the middle. Her meal was free but the manager said since mine was cooked properly no comp. for me. That's fine, I didn't argue but we never went there to eat again..
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
You retards realise that precooked + cold =/= raw, right?
Are you talkin' to us right above you?

Cold/frozen inside was the first clue, not the only one. I said that he cut it open and LOOKED. It *was* raw. I can get descriptive if I have too, but we all know what raw chicken looks like. No? Fine: He and I both saw wet, gellatinous, jiggly, shiny, red, raw chicken meat with a vein of frozen raw chicken meat in the middle. If was freakin' fried and still completely raw. Though the tenderloin felt hot/warm from the outside, the thin frozen vein of raw chicken was obviously shrinking since the moment they pulled it out of the fryer and the hot crust convected into the meat. The majority of that obviously-raw meat was still frozen the moment it was pulled out of the fryer. Just like a glass of water stays at 32-degrees until the last ice cube melts, the surrounding meat stayed raw until it was served no matter how hot the crust got because the ice vein was sustaining it internally.

Did I mention that I also took them over an hour to serve us? Someone had quit on them.
 

NesuD

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You don't get sick from eating raw food. Raw chicken won't affect you unless it's tainted with salmanella. Frankly, in this day and age, you're more likely to win the lottery than eat tainted raw chicken.

Personally, I like a bit of pink in my chicken and pork, and I eat beef very rare. The taste is so much better. Dried out, overcooked meat sucks.

Your chance of getting food poisoning from raw chicken is extremely high. Raw chicken is loaded with bacteria and must be cooked completely to make sure it is safe for consumption.