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ATA100 HDD as boot device ??

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Nafur

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I recently purchased an IBM ATA100 HDD. So now I wanted to use
the ATA100 controller of my ABIT KT7-RAID mobo. I downloaded
the latest drivers for the controller, and enabled it in my
BIOS. I rebooted my machine, the OS (= WIN2K) is on another HDD
(which is normal IDE). Win2k found the new hardware and the
installation went flawless. So under Win2k I had a new disk,
the format went ok and the disk is working fine.

But, since the ATA100 HDD is supposed to be faster, I want to
put my OS on that disk. So, I detached my old disk (I don't
want to loose any information on that drive, so I detach it).
I put the Win2k installation CD in my CDROM drive and I reboot
the machine. The Win2k installation starts and I press on F6
to install a third party mass storage controller. Then a few
seconds later Win2k asks me for drivers for the controller, I
insert a disk with the drivers for the HPT370 on it and Win2k
says he found drivers for the controller which he will use
during installation. Setup copies the necessary files to my
ATA100 drive and reboots my machine. In the BIOS I set the first
boot device to my ATA100RAID and I remove the installation CD
from my CDROM. Now, he is suppposed to continue the installation
procedure from the ATA100 drive BUT he cannot find any HDD's,
and he does not find NTLDR. He says there are no bootable devices
in the machine!

Now, I don't know how if this is normal but there is NO detection
of the ATA100 controller or disk in the first stages of a boot.
The CDROM drive and my old disks are detected and shown, but he
just doesn't mention anything of my ATA100RAID controller. Is this
normal? Shouldn't he detect the harddrive on IDE3 ?
I can't even press <CTRL + H> to access the RAID BIOS, anywhere?!

I've updated the BIOS to WW version. Still nothing.

What is wrong? The disk is recognized by windows, and files can
be copied to it. ATA100 is enabled and set to first bootdevice...
But it's just not bootable??

I've no problems whatsoever with this board, it has run excellent!
But I really want my fast HDD to be my bootdevice...

My setup:

AMD Duron 600
ABIT KT7 RAID (WW BIOS)
256 MB SDRAM 133
3D Prophet Geforce II MX
IBM 45 GB ATA100
IBM 15 GB ATA33
Pioneer 16x/40x DVDrom (IDE)
Plextor 12/10/32 (IDE)
D-Link 10/100 Ethernet card
SBLive!
Adaptec AHA 1520 scsi card (for scanner)

Please help 😉
 
Hmm interesting.
OK did you install the OS with the HD connected to the ATA 100 or ATA 66 Controller???

Does your HD get recognized when the Highpoint BIOS load at startup????

-Nore
 
Ah, see now there's the problem I think:

>Does your HD get recognized when the Highpoint BIOS load at startup????

That BIOS doesn't load at startup 🙁 😕

I installed the OS a few months back, on my old drive. At that time the RAID was disabled. Now I just added the new HDD and enabled the RAID controller... Windows recognized it and installed the drivers I supplied it...
 
Uh in the BIOS i think it's in Intergrated Peripherals, go all the way down and it'll say something like &quot;ATA-100 BIOS Load&quot; set that to Enabled.

-Nore
 
OK I just got my manual, it's in Intergrated Peripherals and it says &quot;ATA100 IDE Controller&quot;, set it to Enabled and that should fix your problem.

-Nore
 
Uh oh, not good
Then I dunno WTH is wrong with it!!!!!!!!!!! 🙁

Try loading the Optimized Defaults in the BIOS or something like that

-Nore
 
The FAQ seems to be offline (apushardware.com too for that matter)...

Anyway, I'm going to try to load the optimized settings but don't know if will do any good...

But the drives IS recognized in Win2k, so the controller must be working?! 😕

This is weird...
 
Yea, the controller seems to be fine, you just seem to have a problem with your Highpoint BIOS, try to use the Optimized setting or upgrade your BIOS which will also upgrade the HPT BIOS

-Nore
 
I've upgraded to BIOS WW ... which has the latest official HPT370 Bios... ( v1.0.3b1 )

And it's not advised to upgrade the HPT BIOS separately ...
 
EUREKA!!!!! 😀

I don't understand it, but I pulled out my (ISA) SCSI card and rebooted the machine, et voila!

The HPT BIOS popped up and scanned for harddrives. So now I should be able to install my OS on that drive... I don't expect any problems in that area anymore.

But what on earth has that scsi card to do with the ATA controller?
I plugged it back and the HPT BIOS was gone again...
😕

It kinda sux though, I need that scsi card for my scanner...
 
Nafur: What PCI slot did you have the SCSI controller in? If it was in PCI5, and doesn't fully support IRQ sharing, then it could be conflicting with the HPT controller. Another possibility is your SCSI drive supports bootable devices, and since the HPT controller presents itself as a SCSI controller to the system there may be a conflict there. If your SCSI card does support bootable devices, does it have a jumper to disable that feature? If so, disable and try again. Also, make sure that you go into the HPT bios and select your HDD as the boot device.

Just some thoughts....
 
Skiracer, you might be on to something there.
It's a ISA SCSI card, but it does support bootable devices. Maybe that's why it's messing up my HPT370 BIOS post.

But I still need my scanner! And the original SCSI card supplied with the scanner doesn't work under Windows 2000. It's one of those &quot;half&quot; ones...
 
Could the isa card cause an irq conflict via the pci-isa bridge? A lot of boards share the last PCI slot with the ISA through a bridge, and if the controller's on that same irq it could conflict since both have to master the bus to be bootable. Good idea to disable boot function on ISA card if possible... regardless of the source of conflict this could resolve. Yeah, yeah, what he said, skiracer pretty much covered it.
 
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