AT World of Warcraft Thread (WotLK, where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Jax Omen]

It is, but the expansion was released on the same day worldwide.

 

[Mana]

The reason EU guilds are typically ranked so far ahead of US guilds is because in Europe people get far more vacation time than people in the US.

Rankings don't mean crap really anymore, typically most "top" guilds will clear things 1-2 weeks after the "world first" guilds. The only barrier is time, not skill.

 

[lupi]

So with the arena tournament details out who wants to join me forking over $20 for the armored murloc pet.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I have no idea what happened to our guild this week but we've somehow gone from being slow and inefficient (9 hours over the course of a week to just get to Sapph's room) to clearing N25 in 5 hours. Quite an accomplishment for our group that lets anyone play even if they blow and always die in 5 seconds. After we finished up we went over to visit Malygos and had no problem getting to the 3rd phase with 3:30 - 4:00 left. I think we may very well take him down on Sunday.

 

[Chimley]

Ya know.. there's nothing like running Naxx on an Alt...

and seeing an item you've been WANTING on your Main (I.E. Tanking Weapon) drop in said Alt Run.


I have no blood left to bleed.... SIGH

 

[Anubis]

last laugh?

we had one drop in Altramas this week as well, however i think every tank who wants it allready has it

 

[Juddog]

I think I've finally made up my mind to leave the guild I'm in now and join another that hasn't progressed as far. Last night was the final straw so to speak; the guild got in this big argument internally before about raiding with 20 people or less to get the Malygos achievement, then last night which was a scheduled Malygos night, lo and behold, we had 20 of the usual raiding crowd show up but because 5 people didn't show they canceled the raid, then ran the 10 man version with the core "elite" members. Then to top it off they stated they didn't want to do Malygos with only 20 because even though we could do it, "it only takes 10 minutes so we'll save it for Sunday".

Then of course this week I died again on Thaddius at the very end because of their retarded strategy of running to the tank, because my UI is so cluttered I couldn't see his charge on /focus and he didn't call it out on vent, then of course the raid leader yells at me again over vent and complains about how I die on Thaddius so much. This is after they refused to even consider the normal Thaddius strategy. It pisses me off that they call the raid on a raid night then reschedule it for a non-official raid night. Then of course you have the loot wh0res who get passed the best in slot automatically every time their best in slot drops, then bitch at the rest of the dps'ers for not putting enough dps output when we all only have access to equipment that nobody else wants. I calculated out how long it would take for me to get best in slot and it would be at least another 2-3 months of raiding Naxx, meanwhile I would get to see all the better equipment auto-passed to the elite inner circle.

This favoritism bullsh!t bugs me out. It's one of the reasons I have always favored DKP over officer loot council, because at least with DKP you can work towards something. I feel like a dog getting dinner scraps since I only get the crap nobody else wants.

Sorry for the huge emo whine post, just needed to vent somewhere and it seems like people in this thread understand guild drama better than most. I think I am going to mostly start working on alts again and two boxing, either that or hopefully find a more friendly guild.

 

[DirthNader]

Last night's Naxx loot was horrible for dps casters (again). The only thing I even considered bidding on was an Accursed Spine.

To rub salt in the wound, KT dropped three weapons - Torch, Betrayer, and Last Laugh. Still no Turning Tide. I'm now #1 in my guild in loot priority, with two other warlocks right behind me. It's freaking sad.

Originally posted by: Juddog
Sorry for the huge emo whine post, just needed to vent somewhere and it seems like people in this thread understand guild drama better than most. I think I am going to mostly start working on alts again and two boxing, either that or hopefully find a more friendly guild.

I don't think you're whining. I can't believe you've stuck with them as long as you have. It sounds like they consider you expendable, nothing more than a means to get the loot they want. Arrogance. You're supposed to be happy you have the chance to raid with them (and their retarded overcomplication of simple fight mechanics). F 'em.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Last night's Naxx loot was horrible for dps casters (again). The only thing I even considered bidding on was an Accursed Spine.

To rub salt in the wound, KT dropped three weapons - Torch, Betrayer, and Last Laugh. Still no Turning Tide. I'm now #1 in my guild in loot priority, with two other warlocks right behind me. It's freaking sad.

Originally posted by: Juddog
Sorry for the huge emo whine post, just needed to vent somewhere and it seems like people in this thread understand guild drama better than most. I think I am going to mostly start working on alts again and two boxing, either that or hopefully find a more friendly guild.

I don't think you're whining. I can't believe you've stuck with them as long as you have. It sounds like they consider you expendable, nothing more than a means to get the loot they want. Arrogance. You're supposed to be happy you have the chance to raid with them (and their retarded overcomplication of simple fight mechanics). F 'em.

Yeah I spent a half hour last night trying to convince the officers to at least try Thaddius in the normal way and they flat out refused to change their strategy. My main concern is that come Ulduar, I know that I will get passed up on loot until all of the core "elite" inner circle get all their stuff first. So basically I would have to keep raiding knowing full well I won't get anything for the next 2-3 months at least. I find it sad that I have a better chance of getting Illustration of the Dragon Soul on a PUG raid than I do with our own raid.

Same thing goes with the heroic key to the focusing iris - I'm not even allowed to roll on this, and won't be able to bid / roll on it for at least several more months. I just feel like I'm being used.

Plus I don't mind trying 3d Sarth but to keep dying to him for 4 hours in a row is annoying when it's pretty clear we simply don't have the dps at this point yet. When we can get the first drake to 25% health when the second starts to land without using heroism, then we'll have the correct dps for the encounter, but we simply can't kill the first drake before the second starts up without popping heroism - which leaves us to not have enough dps to take down the second drake before the third lands.

Thanks for the encouragement. I really miss my old guild on Eitrigg that I used to belong to back in the days of Vanilla WoW before I transferred servers. We progressed well, they didn't have an elite inner circle of guild members, and I actually had fun with them on vent and in guild chat. I guess it's rare to find a guild that is both enjoyable and competent, either that or I'm just having bad luck with guilds on my new server. I'm kinda sad that they broke up due to BC and changing raid size to 25 man, but to be honest I do prefer the 25 man format better somewhat.

 

[Anubis]

you dont need to kill the 2nd drake before the 3rd one lands, me thinks your guild has fed up strats for a lot of things. but yea i prob would have left sooner as well, actually i left my last guild long ago for similar reasons

 

[Chimley]

As I have told many peoples in my long "career" with this llama game.. if you're not having fun, change what you're doing.

WoW is supposed to be fun. It sounds like this guild you're in is a "Fun Sucker". Go join another guild or xfer off to a different server. even if you go to a guild that is "less" progressed, you'll enjoy your time more when not playing with douchebags.

And honestly, if you're a good player, you'll find that you will rub off on other people in raids, which helps elevate their game a bit. So working with a guild who isn't as far along PvE wise isn't too bad in the long run

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Anubis
you dont need to kill the 2nd drake before the 3rd one lands, me thinks your guild has fed up strats for a lot of things. but yea i prob would have left sooner as well, actually i left my last guild long ago for similar reasons

Yeah the strats thing is annoying because the officers simply won't listen to matter how detailed of a strategy I write out, explain, and even post a link to youtube which shows exactly how to do it. The raid leader kept talking about how we had to continue on 3D so that we would learn teamwork for when Ulduar comes out and comparing us against the other top guild on our server which did it.

Plus on our last 3D attempt, the raid leader insisted that we try it using a voidwalker, so we sat there for x amount of hours wiping over and over with the voidwalker as the main tank on Sarth, knowing full well that the voidewalker strat will be nerfed. We actually were doing fairly well too, but kept wiping on the 3rd drake because we were getting overwhelmed with whelps. Our dps was tight but the healers kept dying while trying to keep up the voidwalker for some reason.

Part of the reason dps seems to be lacking is that the guild has a high turnover rate, it seems like every day someone leaves and gets replaced. I guess that should have been a sign to me from the beginning. LOL

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: lupi
So with the arena tournament details out who wants to join me forking over $20 for the armored murloc pet.

I'm joining up with my brother and probably a friend... I think we may go RMP .

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I have no idea what happened to our guild this week but we've somehow gone from being slow and inefficient (9 hours over the course of a week to just get to Sapph's room) to clearing N25 in 5 hours. Quite an accomplishment for our group that lets anyone play even if they blow and always die in 5 seconds. After we finished up we went over to visit Malygos and had no problem getting to the 3rd phase with 3:30 - 4:00 left. I think we may very well take him down on Sunday.

Wow... 9 hours is pretty long for N25. The PUG I'm in only took ~3 hours so far and that's with some people not even knowing the fights . I think it'll probably take another 3 hours or so to finish tonight as it seems this guild hasn't done Sapphiron before (the one person I talked to said they don't have frost resist gear ). But hey, at least your guild is never as bad as mine... we take around 13 hours to full-clear N10 .

I don't know if I even want to go to N10 tonight... I certainly do not want to spend 13 hours again and there's pretty much no gear or anything else in it. Only thing I could use from there would be a new cape and ring... which would end up getting replaced in N25 anyway .

EDIT:

Originally posted by: Juddog
Plus on our last 3D attempt, the raid leader insisted that we try it using a voidwalker, so we sat there for x amount of hours wiping over and over with the voidwalker as the main tank on Sarth, knowing full well that the voidewalker strat will be nerfed. We actually were doing fairly well too, but kept wiping on the 3rd drake because we were getting overwhelmed with whelps. Our dps was tight but the healers kept dying while trying to keep up the voidwalker for some reason.

Why do you still have whelps up after Tenebron is dead?

 

[Juddog]

Finally switched over to Jewelcrafting from herbalism last night. Just hit 160 this morning, was mining on an alt since auction house prices have become ridiculous for low end metals (90g for a 20 stack of silver bars?) I'm hoping that the rest of the progression for JC'ing is this easy, because so far I've only spent about 50g on powerlevelling it to 160. From what I looked at, the best combos for casters seem to be JC / enchanting, JC / inscription, or JC / alchemy. In the end they all average out to the same extra gain in spellpower, but for now sticking with Alchemy as I love those flasks. Going to start working on my two / three boxing combo this weekend, I may have to drop over to my XP partition to run WoW with 2 clients at once, as Vista seems to be a bit of a resource hog.

I'm still trying to figure out how to set up the keys though, I'm pondering buying those gaming keypads from a store like Best Buy, as having 2 keyboards and a laptop seem a bit much, and alt-tabbing between the two seems to be taking too long to execute commands versus a keypress. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16823173005

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Going to start working on my two / three boxing combo this weekend, I may have to drop over to my XP partition to run WoW with 2 clients at once, as Vista seems to be a bit of a resource hog. [/L]

Right click the WoW shortcut and turn off Desktop Composition. This will turn off Aero while WoW is running. Personally, I think Aero is purdy, so I leave it on (and take the hit), but if you want extra speed, you ought to turn it off .

 

[DirthNader]

Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

 

[lupi]

Low/mid leveling of JC sucks. Once you get out of just needing mostly metal, you are in for some serious scrounging for gems. What's made worse in this situation is that a lot of the gems you'll need at this point come from thorium, which in itself is a serious bitch to gather without just spending a lot of time farming.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

no

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: lupi
Low/mid leveling of JC sucks. Once you get out of just needing mostly metal, you are in for some serious scrounging for gems. What's made worse in this situation is that a lot of the gems you'll need at this point come from thorium, which in itself is a serious bitch to gather without just spending a lot of time farming.

a guildie of mine power lvled JC about 2 weeks ago. total cost to get to 400 ish was between 2-3k gold

which he made back in like 2 days

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: lupi
So with the arena tournament details out who wants to join me forking over $20 for the armored murloc pet.

I'm joining up with my brother and probably a friend... I think we may go RMP .

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I have no idea what happened to our guild this week but we've somehow gone from being slow and inefficient (9 hours over the course of a week to just get to Sapph's room) to clearing N25 in 5 hours. Quite an accomplishment for our group that lets anyone play even if they blow and always die in 5 seconds. After we finished up we went over to visit Malygos and had no problem getting to the 3rd phase with 3:30 - 4:00 left. I think we may very well take him down on Sunday.

Wow... 9 hours is pretty long for N25. The PUG I'm in only took ~3 hours so far and that's with some people not even knowing the fights . I think it'll probably take another 3 hours or so to finish tonight as it seems this guild hasn't done Sapphiron before (the one person I talked to said they don't have frost resist gear ). But hey, at least your guild is never as bad as mine... we take around 13 hours to full-clear N10 .

I don't know if I even want to go to N10 tonight... I certainly do not want to spend 13 hours again and there's pretty much no gear or anything else in it. Only thing I could use from there would be a new cape and ring... which would end up getting replaced in N25 anyway .

EDIT:

Originally posted by: Juddog
Plus on our last 3D attempt, the raid leader insisted that we try it using a voidwalker, so we sat there for x amount of hours wiping over and over with the voidwalker as the main tank on Sarth, knowing full well that the voidewalker strat will be nerfed. We actually were doing fairly well too, but kept wiping on the 3rd drake because we were getting overwhelmed with whelps. Our dps was tight but the healers kept dying while trying to keep up the voidwalker for some reason.

Why do you still have whelps up after Tenebron is dead?

No idea - I got yelled at by the raid leader last time I was DPS'ing the whelps after Tenebron died with my AE mind sear so I stopped trying to DPS them.

 

[Chimley]

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

MMM.. I track both on my Mage.. no mods. I think Blizzard changed something awhile back that allows tracking of two gathering professions.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

MMM.. I track both on my Mage.. no mods. I think Blizzard changed something awhile back that allows tracking of two gathering professions.

That may be a bug.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

Gatherer might work.. just gotta fiddle with the options a bit.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

MMM.. I track both on my Mage.. no mods. I think Blizzard changed something awhile back that allows tracking of two gathering professions.

thats gotta be a bug or your using a mod for it that i dont know about. because you can only have 1 active tacking up. my Dk has herb/mine and cant track both

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: DirthNader
Speaking of professions... I want to do mining and herbalism on my new alt. Are there any mods that let you track both on the minimap at the same time?

MMM.. I track both on my Mage.. no mods. I think Blizzard changed something awhile back that allows tracking of two gathering professions.

You cannot track more than one thing at a time. You can only select one item to track at a time from the drop-down list.

Gatherer only "remembers" where you've picked up nodes before, so all it would be showing is that you've gathered from a node nearby in the past. The node may or may not have actually spawned there.