AT World of Warcraft Thread (Warlords, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Xonim]

Bought two at 29,985. Account runs out in a few days ..... buying it this way seems I can take the gold all from one character instead of splitting it like would happen if I bought one with an inactive account.

Just a heads up: These things can sit in your regular inventory, but can NOT be placed into your bank. The FAQ says if you have tokens in your inventory, you can reactivate an inactive account from the login screen.

 

[Gryz]

Who the heck buys gold for real money ? It's a game, isn't it ? It's like "going fishing", but buy the dead fish in a fish-shop first. Because $20 for a dead fish is so much cheaper than sitting 5 hours at the water side.

And only 30k gold for $20 ? I think decent BoE items on the AH are more expensive than 30k each. (Don't know for sure, I haven't played in months). If you want to deck out 1 character with 5 higher-item-level items, it'll cost you $100. Where's the fun in that ? Who is so stupid to do that ?

People buy the tokens from Blizzard for real money. So clearly there's something I don't understand about people .....

 

[Xonim]

Yeah I don't get it either. 30k is pretty easy to come by this expansion.

I'm debating on buying more at this price. I'd have to assume they'll get more expensive over time as fewer are listed?

Edit: Eh what the hell, in for 3 more at 29,094.

That's enough, I usually resub in about 5 month spurts anyway.

Edit 2: And.......down to 28,803 about 3 seconds after I bought. Hah. I should stop looking.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

So I have 600,000 gold on my toons right now. That's enough for 20 months of sub 😀

 

[Xonim]

Great, isn't it?

I bought 5 all from one toon, going to let them sit until next time I feel the need to resub. Have 220k left there, 230k+130k+80k left on other servers. Should be set for a while!

 

[lupi]

just picked one up for 27k. seems I was do to reup in 3 days so now I have a month and 3 days.

 

[Hacp]

I bought 18 months of game time with wow tokens. I'm no longer a wow millionaire, just have 600k left but it as worth it.

 

[cronos]

Does this feel like a conversion step to a future free-to-play WoW to anyone else?

I haven't played for many years and I think I have some 60k stored. I wonder if I can activate without money out of pocket by activating a 10-day trial and buy a token.

 

[JujuFish]

Does this feel like a conversion step to a future free-to-play WoW to anyone else?

I haven't played for many years and I think I have some 60k stored. I wonder if I can activate without money out of pocket by activating a 10-day trial and buy a token.

I'm pretty sure you don't even need a trial. I think they said you can buy a token from the login screen if your account is inactive.

As to your question: no. In fact, Blizzard is making more money off subscriptions this way since they're getting $20 for the token.

 

[cronos]

I'm pretty sure you don't even need a trial. I think they said you can buy a token from the login screen if your account is inactive.

As to your question: no. In fact, Blizzard is making more money off subscriptions this way since they're getting $20 for the token.

You're right. That's so sneaky of Blizzard. Not to mention it seems like they took out the difference in gold price between AH buying and selling of tokens, just like a bank trading foreign currency. Damn.

Anyway, yeah I just watched the intro video for this WoW token and it did say that you can buy token right from the login screen. However I'm sure that only works if a character has enough gold in its bag. I store my gold in my (personal) guild bank so there's no pop up screen shows up to buy token. Which makes sense, as far as the game concerns, it's guild money.

 

[lupi]

"inactive" accounts can still log in and have access to playable chars up to level 20.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Down to under 25k. I can buy a full 2 years worth 😀

 

[MustISO]

23K this morning, still don't have the gold for it but if I might in a few months 🙂

 

[lupi]

can actual players still be supplying these things at the rate their gold value keeps going down?

 

[Anubis]

Who the heck buys gold for real money ?

I can name like 8 guild members who do

they only log in to raid
I either give some of them money or they buy it from "player auctions"

this token thing means neither of those 2 other things happened anymore

 

[Xonim]

Well, had I waited I guess I could've bought another month with the gold saved. Oh well ... I still feel 30k is/was a fair price. I was expecting closer to 40k.

It amazes me that people apparently are thinking that ~23k gold is worth paying $20. Even with savage blood below 200g/ea, that's what, a week's worth of garrisons on 2 characters?

600g == 3 savage bloods per day from barn
150g == sumptuous fur from barn
800g == gold rewards from treasure missions
100g == other rewards from missions (augment runes, BoP DE's, etc)
150g == salvage vendoring
-------
1800g average / day from one character == 25.2k/wk from 2 characters

It takes maybe 15 minutes to get a week's worth of alpha's trapped. With l3 storehouse you can queue your work orders for the week basically all at once. Log in once a day for 5 mins to complete and re-send missions and you've paid for your month of gametime. If that's not enough, there's always the mine, prof CD's, and the herb plot.

I guess if you net $20/hour from your job and value your free time at the same $20/hour because you could work more hours or something (I don't, I work a 40 hour/week job no matter what), but otherwise ... it just seems easier to keep up a garrison to pay for playtime.

 

[Anubis]

its down to 23k right now on Mal'ganis - not sure if its game wide or not (prob is)

FWIW I make close to 20k a week doing nothing but garrison crap on 5 toons with a lot of treasure hunters/salvage yards
I DE every blue from a mission/salvage, vendor all the greens and then sell excess dust/crystals that come from DEing or enchanting hut

besides the cloth work orders I pretty much don't do any of them anymore besides enchanting. and I don't have a barn on anyone

 

[Phoenix86]

Well put Xonim, it's incredibly easy to farm that much gold in a month. I can almost do it on 2 toons just logging in for raids. If I put in another 30 minutes a week I could earn gold while paying for the sub.

One thing I'm interested to see what is the affect of all the stale gold being injected into the system. The gold is going from unused to someone who paid cash for gold, that person is going to spend the gold asap where the person who bought the token was sitting on it.

 

[Phoenix86]

its down to 23k right now on Mal'ganis - not sure if its game wide or not (prob is)

FWIW I make close to 20k a week doing nothing but garrison crap on 5 toons with a lot of treasure hunters/salvage yards
I DE every blue from a mission/salvage, vendor all the greens and then sell excess dust/crystals that come from DEing or enchanting hut

besides the cloth work orders I pretty much don't do any of them anymore besides enchanting. and I don't have a barn on anyone

Same here, I have a barn, but I'm just not spending the time to keep it running. The only things I'm doing in the garrison are missions/enchanting/salvage/herbs.

I had around 240 salvage crates stored up and made around 3K gold just selling non 91-100 items and greys. I bet you can do 20K off of missions (treasure hunters)+salvage.

 

[MustISO]

its down to 23k right now on Mal'ganis - not sure if its game wide or not (prob is)

I just checked it and it was 23,280.

From Battlenet:
As discussed in our original announcement, each game region (Americas, Europe, Korea, Taiwan, and China) will have its own shared WoW Token exchange.

 

[JujuFish]

Well, had I waited I guess I could've bought another month with the gold saved. Oh well ... I still feel 30k is/was a fair price. I was expecting closer to 40k.

I'm in the same boat. Got home from work and the price had gone up every hour, so I bought. Next hour, of course the price goes down.

 

[lupi]

The one thing we don't know is how much the people actually buying the tokens are getting in gold. I believe blizz decides that at all times where you put it on the ah, so while that value could be going up to encourage people buying them, the ah gold value could be going down as not enough people are buying after the initial sale started.

 

[Phoenix86]

The one thing we don't know is how much the people actually buying the tokens are getting in gold. I believe blizz decides that at all times where you put it on the ah, so while that value could be going up to encourage people buying them, the ah gold value could be going down as not enough people are buying after the initial sale started.

My understanding:

If I list a token at 25K, the market moves by the time it sells and it goes for 22K. I get 25K gold, buyer pays 22K gold.

 

[lupi]

Yes the gold amount you get will be locked in when you post. But are they still modifying what that posted amount is or are they already letting it run with the ah?

 

[Xonim]

Yes the gold amount you get will be locked in when you post. But are they still modifying what that posted amount is or are they already letting it run with the ah?

My understanding is that the prices will be modified by Blizz based on the current supply of tokens for sale. If there are more tokens being posted for sale then there are buyers, the price will continue a downward trend (based on what looks like a 1% adjustment every so often). If more buyers show up than people selling the tokens, the price will go in the opposite direction (again with the 1%).

I suppose it will eventually find an average where people feel $20 is fair to get, for example, 25k in return, and people with gold will feel a month of gametime is worth 25k. If the price keeps going down, I suspect fewer people will feel paying real money is worth it ... and thus the price will be adjusted up. If people with gold will pay 35k but not 45k for a month of gametime, fewer people will buy and supply will increase as a result, thus driving the price down again.