AT World of Warcraft Thread (Warlords, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

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Phoenix86

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You have your opinion on flying and I have mine. How big or small the continent is, is irrelevant to me honestly.

What I am mainly interested in, is there a reason to hang in Draenor after Loremaster is done? There is one daily to do, anything else?

You said time and effort were important so I figured the time and effort spent not flying would matter. It's fine if it doesn't but there's no need to lash out.

You need to be in Draenor for garrison tasks for the barn and lumber mill but it's not much. There's a couple rep grinds which aren't required at all. So no, not much of a reason once you complete all the quests. I could live in my garrison and only leave to get my barn thingies once a week and the daily.
 

JujuFish

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You said time and effort were important so I figured the time and effort spent not flying would matter. It's fine if it doesn't but there's no need to lash out.
So you realize that time and effort are important to him and, knowing this, still said that no flying is amazing? Really?

Adrenaline, no flying is absolutely abysmal. It makes everything more tedious and time-consuming. It's one of the things that makes this one of the worst expansions. This is all in my opinion, of course.
 

Beebu

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Any of you doing any PvP Horde side?

My ret in full PvP gear is ilvl628. Would ideally like to find a disc/hunter to just bash our face on the keyboards and grab a 1700-1800 rating in 3's.
 

Phoenix86

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My opinion that no flying is awesome isn't directly related to time. However, I don't find I spend any more time getting from place to place without it. The flight paths are pretty smart and fast. Getting from flight path to where I want to go is easy and fast. I can go from my garrison (alliance) to highmaul in less than a minute, and that's across the map.

Aviana's feather is amazing.

It's also the way out of wpvp if you don't want to participate.
 

lupi

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No flying makes gathering anything suck ass. As for the great flightpaths, I once hoped from talador to the spires via my garrison FP. That was so fun I submitting a bug report.

The best part is hearing so many podcast talk like lfe has gotten better without flying and no one is complaining. You are brain dead retarded to not realize the amount of people that want flying back.
 

Adrenaline

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You said time and effort were important so I figured the time and effort spent not flying would matter. It's fine if it doesn't but there's no need to lash out.

You need to be in Draenor for garrison tasks for the barn and lumber mill but it's not much. There's a couple rep grinds which aren't required at all. So no, not much of a reason once you complete all the quests. I could live in my garrison and only leave to get my barn thingies once a week and the daily.

I apologize as I misunderstood. Thanks for the information. This will help me decide on buying it.
 

Xonim

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I apologize as I misunderstood. Thanks for the information. This will help me decide on buying it.

Just a heads up, if you are still considering even though there's no flying.

There are really only 2 zones designed where no flying is a problem as far as navigating the map is concerned (I understand the slower speed is also a thing). By that I mean -- think back to Storm Peaks and how terrible that was without flying. The new Nagrand, and to a lesser extent Gorgrond, are a PITA without flying, though not quite on the level of Storm Peaks.

Nagrand has lots of canyons and hills and raised ramps and stuff. It was the only zone this xpac where I was annoyed with not being able to fly. Gorgrond has some artificial walls made of vines that sort of enclose certain areas except for a road leading in -- it's annoying, but nowhere near as bad as I thought Nagrand was.
 

Phoenix86

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There are really only 2 zones designed where no flying is a problem as far as navigating the map is concerned (I understand the slower speed is also a thing).

How could you not mention spires? That was the only zone I really wanted flying in, Nagrand wasn't that bad imo. There's only two areas that have funky mountains and both are pretty obvious how to get up there. Besides, mounted combat makes fighting in that zone super-easy to get around.
 

lupi

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The only one that didn't really have fudge me without flying moments was talador. Spire really sucked, gorgrond just slightly less. Nagrand had a lot of stuff involving either ridge lines or chasms that hampered movement. Even frostfire had sections where you do a lot of extra riding for no purpose than because you had to go around.

Hell, if they gave us flying with something like could use for 1 minute with a 5 minute cooldown, then it wouldn't be noticeable. But they designed every area with at least a couple PITA moments when stuck on a ground mount.
 

Xonim

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Just dinged another guy from blue to epic ... aaaaaaand ...... DANGER ZONES. Again. Now have 6 epics, 2 blues, and 3 greens with danger zone counters. That's 4 blue-->epic in a row that have gained danger zones.

How could you not mention spires? That was the only zone I really wanted flying in, Nagrand wasn't that bad imo. There's only two areas that have funky mountains and both are pretty obvious how to get up there. Besides, mounted combat makes fighting in that zone super-easy to get around.

I don't think the terrain of spires was that bad where it needed flying. I think most people just didn't care for the vibe. /shrug

Hell, if they gave us flying with something like could use for 1 minute with a 5 minute cooldown, then it wouldn't be noticeable. But they designed every area with at least a couple PITA moments when stuck on a ground mount.

There's Aviana's Feather, but that's a 10 min CD.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=119093/avianas-feather
 
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nageov3t

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is it possible for followers to level-up their weapons/armor automatically? o_O

I just noticed my Pleasure Bot 9000 today had a 655 weapon but 600 armor... I have no recollection of ever upgrading his gear at all, and definitely not to 655 (I've only been upgrading to 654 max)
 

lupi

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World of Warcraft has had quite an eventful year. We released the newest expansion, Warlords of Draenor, on November 13. The first raid opened up in early December, and players have had a go at some of Draenor’s most fearsome foes. We marked the 10-year World of Warcraft and 20-year Warcraft anniversaries in-game and with an incredible celebration at BlizzCon last month; debuted a new documentary, World of Warcraft: Looking for Group, on YouTube and Hulu; and released a new pet to support the American Red Cross and their Ebola relief efforts in Africa—and we’re not done yet.

We’re excited about what’s ahead in 2015, and we wanted to give you a glimpse at some of the long-term projects we’re working on, as well as some features planned for the Patch 6.1 update, which will be hitting the Public Test Realm (PTR) soon.

Feeling Legendary
We hope everyone is enjoying the Legendary quest line with Khadgar, the next step of which opens up with the Blackrock Foundry raid in the new year. We’re already working on the steps after that, and the quest line will continue in Patch 6.1, where the first-ever Legendary Follower (with suitably Legendary abilities) will be available to join your Garrison. If you’re a fan of collecting Followers but haven’t set out on the Legendary quest line, now is a good time to get started!

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We have some new tech in the works that will allow flight masters to provide more-direct routes to your destination, regardless of the flight points your character knows. This’ll mean fewer roundabout routes; the flight masters will instead always try to send you on the shortest existing route. Hopefully, this will get you to your destination faster.

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Xonim

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Dinged another blue-->epic after a mission this morning, finally got one that wasn't danger zones! It is possible to break the streak!

Moving darkmoon cards has slowed to a crawl. I've been sitting on the same few for 3-4 days now, list prices around 200g. When they hit 150 I'm gonna replace my scribe building with a storehouse for convenience.
 

Anubis

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tbqhwy.com
ya most are down on my server as well. cept I sold a random 4 of moons for 2k this morning in like 2 min /shrug

I think ill hit 18 epic followers when I get home today
 

Phoenix86

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Just dinged another guy from blue to epic ... aaaaaaand ...... DANGER ZONES. Again. Now have 6 epics, 2 blues, and 3 greens with danger zone counters. That's 4 blue-->epic in a row that have gained danger zones.

I don't think the terrain of spires was that bad where it needed flying. I think most people just didn't care for the vibe. /shrug

There's Aviana's Feather, but that's a 10 min CD.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=119093/avianas-feather
Sup danger zone friend! Just upgraded another to epic, and... WE'RE IN THE DANGER ZONE!

Feather's CD is fine for me, fly to a FP near, feather to my destination. By the time I'm hearthing back/finishing what I did to travel there in the first place the CD on feather is coming up.
 

lupi

Lifer
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Not sure how yall are leveling your followers so quickly unless yiu had amazing luck getting upgrades on joining. Each time I go to my missions after they reset, I've got at most 2 missions that give more than 3k experience total, and those take 8-10 hours to complete.
 

drebo

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The only one that didn't really have fudge me without flying moments was talador. Spire really sucked, gorgrond just slightly less. Nagrand had a lot of stuff involving either ridge lines or chasms that hampered movement. Even frostfire had sections where you do a lot of extra riding for no purpose than because you had to go around.

Hell, if they gave us flying with something like could use for 1 minute with a 5 minute cooldown, then it wouldn't be noticeable. But they designed every area with at least a couple PITA moments when stuck on a ground mount.
You can always use Aviana's Feather. Gives you 60 seconds of flying with a 10 minute cooldown. Obtainable via a quest at your garrison Inn, which requires completing Skyreach on Heroic.
 

Phoenix86

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Not sure how yall are leveling your followers so quickly unless yiu had amazing luck getting upgrades on joining. Each time I go to my missions after they reset, I've got at most 2 missions that give more than 3k experience total, and those take 8-10 hours to complete.

Mostly spamming missions, I always had a 90-94 follower and a 95-99 or whatever it was that made extra missions show. They changed that and now the 95-99 ones show even if you have all 100s. 51% chance at 600 xp for a 1 hour mission? Fuck it, send them.

My non-100 or non-epic followers are always on a mission if I can send them. Typically I play at night, so I start missions in the morning, when I get home and through the night. The missions seem to respawn fast enough at that rate.

Power leveling. Take a high level follower and someone -2 levels below the mission. Take them on 10K+missions regardless of level, the loss in % for being low level is worth it when the mission gives so much.