At what point does mach speed become warp speed?

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
I think every 152 Machs is 1 Warp.

are you joking? The speed of sound is lik 700 mph. The speed of light is like 180,000 mile per SECOND! THat is like 650,000,000 mph!
 

BigJelly

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Speed of sound is dependent on T and medium it travels through. Assuming 25C (77F) sound travels 346.4 m/s through air [speed of sound = 331.4 m/s + .6Tc m/s where Tc = temperature in celcius]. Light in a vacuum travels 2.99792458 * 10^8 m/s. So for warp one is equivilant to about mach 865450.
 

Aftermath

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Originally posted by: GermyBoy
What is a warp speed anyways?


"Fiction." - Correct AFAIK.

Warp is conned from Star Trek, but warp was scaled differently in the original series than in the movies and the following series. But from what I know of Trek, I think warp follows a simple scale of warp speed = Warp Factor * The speed of light.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Aftermath
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
What is a warp speed anyways?


"Fiction." - Correct AFAIK.

Warp is conned from Star Trek, but warp was scaled differently in the original series than in the movies and the following series. But from what I know of Trek, I think warp follows a simple scale of warp speed = Warp Factor * The speed of light.
That was true in the original Trek, but I thought I read somewhere that for The Next Generation it was reascaled for the "transwarp" speed in one of the movies, so the "old" warp 10 became warp 1 ?

I just watch the shows though, I don't participate in the cult, so that could be completely wrong :)

 

Aftermath

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In the original Trek, there was no limitation of warp 10 as I recall. I think they had warp factors into the teens. I think I heard somewhere that the highest used warp factor was 13, or something like that. But then in the movies, it was scaled down so that 10 was the barrior. Transwarp was supposed to be the new drive technology to break the limit of warp 10, but Scotty sabotaged the ship (Excelsior?) and the drive failed. I think it's assumed that the federation dropped the idea of transwarp after that, because it never came up again, except with the Borg. AFAIK, warp 10 cannot be broken, because by star trek logic, you would exist in every corner of the universe at once. Like you enter warp 10, exist everywhere, and come out of warp 10 at the exit point, for instintanious (or very close to it) transportation from point A to point B. I forget the exact problem with this though. I forget if it's a simple problem of power consumption and hull stress, or controlling the entrance and/or exit vectors ala Lost in Space, or what the problem was. I know they did it in Voyager though, with a shuttle.
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Oh well, I'm not a Trek guru either. I love Sci-Fi and Trek is my show of choice.