%@#&%^@ AT&T!!!

SSSnail

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I know, it's hard to tell if AT&T is part of the obscured swear word or not, may it IS a swear word in itself nowadays.

How is it even legal for them to start altering and limiting phone capabilities and charge more money for things that you were entitled to under your old contract with T-Mobile?

Yes, I am a T-Mobile customer, has been for a very long time. Recently they sent me a text saying that I can no longer use my tethering ability, and that I'll have to pay for it. WTF? This is ONE of the reason why I did not choose AT&T as my wireless carrier. Now that they've acquired T-Mobile, I know the new customers will suffer, but how can they legally alter the old contracts?

If you're an ISP lover (spidey), how do you defend this? That is a native ability of my phone to use with my "unlimited but we'll throttle you" internet service. Now they want me to pay for it? That's like a car manufacturer starts charging me to use the back seats for the car that I've already bought.

Did I say %@#&%^@ AT&T!!!? Yeah.
 

SSSnail

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They have no way of knowing if you are tethering.

Relax lil buddy
Well you see, I got woken up by a heated conversation between Mrs. Sssnail and someone in T-Mobile's customer's service department because they sent her two text. One is to tell her to sign up for the tethering service, and the other to tell her that they have blocked her tethering ability. And she could not use it anymore...
 

rudeguy

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Well you see, I got woken up by a heated conversation between Mrs. Sssnail and someone in T-Mobile's customer's service department because they sent her two text. One is to tell her to sign up for the tethering service, and the other to tell her that they have blocked her tethering ability. And she could not use it anymore...

Post what phone she has and I can help
 

SSSnail

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Post what phone she has and I can help
We both have the MyTouch 4G. We got it a week after it came out, never had any problems. So their customer service "supervisor" said she'll "allow" Mrs. Sssnail to try out the service for 30 days... haha...
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
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There's ways around that... especially on Android.

Anyway, why do people always throw the law around when they feel a business wrongs them? "Bah this can't possibly be legal! rabble rabble rabble"

Ignoring the fact that your contract says that terms can change at any time, you had a contract with T-mobile and not AT&T. Your beef should be with T-mobile selling with still active contracts, not with AT&T. Sure it's stupid to have to pay for it, but that's life in the mobile world any more. Not sure what you think would be illegal about what they're doing but I guess that's the standard defense these days... you don't like it so it can't possibly be legal, right?
 

SSSnail

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There's ways around that... especially on Android.

Anyway, why do people always throw the law around when they feel a business wrongs them? "Bah this can't possibly be legal! rabble rabble rabble"

Ignoring the fact that your contract says that terms can change at any time, you had a contract with T-mobile and not AT&T. Your beef should be with T-mobile selling with still active contracts, not with AT&T. Sure it's stupid to have to pay for it, but that's life in the mobile world any more. Not sure what you think would be illegal about what they're doing but I guess that's the standard defense these days... you don't like it so it can't possibly be legal, right?
You must be from Soviet, Russia where there are no contract laws, or laws for that matter.

If that's true, can I just walk in their store tomorrow, throw the phones in their faces and effectively ends my contract with them?
 

Mike Gayner

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You must be from Soviet, Russia where there are no contract laws, or laws for that matter.

You don't know much about Soviet Russia, do you? Oh right, it's popular for poorly educated Americans to compare everything they don't like with socialism.
 

SSSnail

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You don't know much about Soviet Russia, do you? Oh right, it's popular for poorly educated Americans to compare everything they don't like with socialism.
Are there anyone else left on this forum that hasn't told you that you're a dumb ass and a colossal failure at pretty much everything?
 

Cuda1447

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You must be from Soviet, Russia where there are no contract laws, or laws for that matter.

If that's true, can I just walk in their store tomorrow, throw the phones in their faces and effectively ends my contract with them?

Heh... no. Tethering was never 100% allowed under T-Mobile, it was always a gray area that they let customers get away with it. Now they are charging (like the other major carriers already do). Really they aren't doing anything wrong.... at the time of the MT4G release tethering was not something that you could do without paying extra for. That said, as others have mentioned just root it and tether using your own application. Problem solved.


Oh and just for the record, AT&T has nothing to do with this. This is 100% a T-Mobile thing and AT&T has had zero effect on T-Mobiles business or policies up to this point. They are still completely separate companies.
 

SSSnail

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Nov 29, 2006
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Heh... no. Tethering was never 100% allowed under T-Mobile, it was always a gray area that they let customers get away with it. Now they are charging (like the other major carriers already do). Really they aren't doing anything wrong.... at the time of the MT4G release tethering was not something that you could do without paying extra for. That said, as others have mentioned just root it and tether using your own application. Problem solved.


Oh and just for the record, AT&T has nothing to do with this. This is 100% a T-Mobile thing and AT&T has had zero effect on T-Mobiles business or policies up to this point. They are still completely separate companies.

Right, like they've never produced any TV commercials advertising that capability... oh wait.

And, I'll have to write to AT$T tomorrow and thank them for acquiring T-Mobile and making all that money through grubbing and set the profits aside, just for me.
 

Golgatha

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I know, it's hard to tell if AT&T is part of the obscured swear word or not, may it IS a swear word in itself nowadays.

How is it even legal for them to start altering and limiting phone capabilities and charge more money for things that you were entitled to under your old contract with T-Mobile?

Yes, I am a T-Mobile customer, has been for a very long time. Recently they sent me a text saying that I can no longer use my tethering ability, and that I'll have to pay for it. WTF? This is ONE of the reason why I did not choose AT&T as my wireless carrier. Now that they've acquired T-Mobile, I know the new customers will suffer, but how can they legally alter the old contracts?

If you're an ISP lover (spidey), how do you defend this? That is a native ability of my phone to use with my "unlimited but we'll throttle you" internet service. Now they want me to pay for it? That's like a car manufacturer starts charging me to use the back seats for the car that I've already bought.

Did I say %@#&%^@ AT&T!!!? Yeah.

Tell them you don't accept the terms of the new contract and go with another carrier for free.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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You must be from Soviet, Russia where there are no contract laws, or laws for that matter.

If that's true, can I just walk in their store tomorrow, throw the phones in their faces and effectively ends my contract with them?

You sound like one of those guys who takes a single class in business law and thinks they know everything about it. People sling around terms all the time but you have no idea what you're talking about. Neither do I, but the point is I'm not making sweeping statements about something being illegal.

Of the few classes I DID have in business law, they were pretty open about how cell phone companies have you by the balls. Lots of stuff in that fine print which gets even fuzzier when your company is bought by another.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying people sound extra retarded when they claim something must be illegal with no explanation other than they just don't like what happened.
 

Mxylplyx

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From what I understand, AT&T CAN and does now monitor data usage for tethering, and will automatically charge you for it if they catch you doing it. All they have to do is sniff out some requests and evaluate the user agent header in some of your requests. If it's a typical mozilla or IE desktop browser agent, you're busted. And dont bother with the "They cant do that" line. Yes the can.
 

Wyndru

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I figured this would happen at some point. A lot of people I know brag about how they cancelled their home internet service and just bought a smart phone that could tether. Does anyone know if this is the case with Verizon too?