AT&T/T-Mo buyout poll!!!

[snikt]

Voted no, mainly because I am a T-Mobile customer and if AT&t does buy them I will be looking elsewhere.

Just a general opinion based on things I have read. In this instance ask yourself what is their motivation for withholding the updates. All Windows phones are basically the same, shouldn't be any major holdup. The updates have been ready since Dec. We have been waiting for 3 months because of AT&T.

You say you're a T-mo customer but you blame AT&T for T-mo not receiving updates?

 

[smartpatrol]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip)

looks like both are A8 but the 8655 supports more cell techs. looks like the thunderbolt is just an Evo or Inspire with a newer CPU/modem

All the Snapdragon CPUs are neither A8 nor A9. They're based on Qualcomm's own custom design called Scorpion.

The second-generation Snapdragon CPUs (like the ones in the MyTouch 4G, Shift 4G, Thunderbolt, etc.) use the Adreno 205 GPU rather than the Adreno 200. The 205 is a pretty big performance increase over the 200.

 

[vshah]

what i'll miss most is being able to call up tmobile and get unlock codes for any of the phones I bought from them.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

what i'll miss most is being able to call up tmobile and get unlock codes for any of the phones I bought from them.

you can do those with at&t phones. you just have to be out of contract i think.

 

[Cuda1447]

probably a temporary sale like t-mo is running for the next few days. the 4G is more expensive than other similar phones once the sale runs out.

Heh.... no its not. T-Mobile was running it for $100 at corporate stores for like a month. Prices change all the time, but I can pretty much assure you that at any given time you could have gotten the MT4G for $100 or less.

 

[alent1234]

and at the same time you could buy a phone with a larger screen for the same price or less

t-mo started losing all their best customers after the iphone came out and charging slightly more for phones was a way to make more money from existing customers. and the 4G price for existing customers is a lot more than what AT&T charges for the Insprire

 

[Cuda1447]

and at the same time you could buy a phone with a larger screen for the same price or less

t-mo started losing all their best customers after the iphone came out and charging slightly more for phones was a way to make more money from existing customers. and the 4G price for existing customers is a lot more than what AT&T charges for the Insprire

OK, you've really aggravated me. You don't know wtf you're talking about.


1. Not everyone wants a bigger screen. If they did manufacturers would make phones with a 3.7" screen.

2. The Iphone doesn't have a 4" screen and its one of the most popular phones. Goes back to point #1.

3. You can EASILY get the MT4G for $100 at any time, with a bit of luck $50 or less and as cheap as free at times.

4. Even if T-Mobiles phones were 50 bucks more than a comparable competitor (which their not) you still spend more money on AT&T or Verizon. So sure, you save a bit on the phone but spend more over the life on the contract.


I really don't get why the one criticism you have a T-Mobile is their phones are to expensive. That's just retarded. Criticize their coverage or something with substance, but not the price of their phones.

 

[Deeko]

and at the same time you could buy a phone with a larger screen for the same price or less

t-mo started losing all their best customers after the iphone came out and charging slightly more for phones was a way to make more money from existing customers. and the 4G price for existing customers is a lot more than what AT&T charges for the Insprire

Not everyone wants a big screen. If everyone wanted a 4.3" screen, the iPhone and Droid phones wouldn't have been so successful. I had an HD2 and don't want that size again. 4" or lower for me.

Also, you are completely off on the customer base. T-Mobile has lost customers overall, but revenues are up, because their percentage of smartphone users has drastically increased.

T-Mobile absolutely does not charge more than the other carriers. You are fixated on the MT4G for some reason (falsely, I might add - your attacks on that product have been roundly shot down), but look at their entire lineup - it is right in line, if not a little cheaper than the competition. Top phones on Verizon and Sprint are consistently $250 or so, after rebate, whereas they're generally $200 or less on T-Mobile outright, plus they run the sales I mentioned earlier that the other carriers rarely do.

You obviously don't like T-Mobile. That's fine, everyone is welcome to their own opinion - but the "facts" you're trying to use to disparrage them are just flat out untrue. Come back when you're better educated on the subject.

 

[dguy6789]

The Thunderbolt is the first flagship Verizon phone that was more than $199.99 on a 2 year contract as far as I know. The Droid X was $199 as was the Incredible and original Droid.

 

[GTaudiophile]

The government will always do what it can to side with big business over the consumer, especially when it fvcks the middle class.

Of course it will be approved.

 

[Kabob]

Will it be approved? Yes. Do I want it to? Not really. Less competition = fewer choices for the consumer.

 

[corkyg]

It will go through. Deutsche Telekom wants to get rid of T-Mo. AT&T makes a good fit from a business perspective.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

IMO the FTC will not let this go through. They already posted a report a few months ago before the merger was announced indicating that they feel the cell service market is not as competitive as they would like. This would make ATT the largest carrier by a decent margin so I don't see it happening.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

IMO the FTC will not let this go through. They already posted a report a few months ago before the merger was announced indicating that they feel the cell service market is not as competitive as they would like. This would make ATT the largest carrier by a decent margin so I don't see it happening.

They'll let it happen because of the concessions that AT&T will do to make them happy. There's no way that AT&T would even attempt this without knowing it'll go for sure because of the penalty for a failed merger.

 

[Fire&Blood]

Money talks. Enough money to go around to grease up even the squeakiest wheel.

If I am AT&T, do I want to pay T-Mobile $3B, give them spectrum and roaming if the merger fails or pay a fraction of that cost to make sure the deal goes through? Remember, AT&T wants this bad enough to pay Deutsche Telekom 40 billions. I am thinking that the break up deal is there just to sidetrack media, AT&T must be certain they won't have to pay it.

4 carriers is better than 3, choice of 2 GSM carriers are better than 1.

In this decade, this country went to war for fabricated lies of WMD's, compared to that, something as trivial as as merger that results in a monopoly is sure to happen.

 

[Raduque]

Don't forget AT&T locks out sideloading of apks on Android phones by default. You have to root, if there's a root available, and hack the settings.apk in order to get it back.

 

[boomhower]

Of course it will, but no it shouldn't.

 

[Fire&Blood]

Don't forget AT&T locks out sideloading of apks on Android phones by default. You have to root, if there's a root available, and hack the settings.apk in order to get it back.

Very important point as well. On top of that, all AT&T offered phones (except the iphone) have crippled upload speeds.

Don't believe me? Pop a AT&T SIM into the T-Mobile G2X (it supports both 3g bands) and run a speed test then compare the results to any non iphone

 

[Bateluer]

i just saw someone buy a mytouch 4G a few days ago. i almost choked when i saw it was $99. you can buy better VZW and AT&T phones for less most days.

sprint is just as ridiculous. $199 for an Evo when the Inspire 4G is $70 from a lot of retailers

Buying from the carrier's site is always more expensive. You can pick them up cheaper from a number of e-tailers for much less. And they tend to drop pretty quickly.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

They'll let it happen because of the concessions that AT&T will do to make them happy. There's no way that AT&T would even attempt this without knowing it'll go for sure because of the penalty for a failed merger.

I'm sure ATT thinks that there is a very good chance it will go through. But deals do occasionally get busted.

 

[Rottie]

AT&T rapes Tmobile is a bad idea because I am a customer for both carrier!

 

[corkyg]

If not AT&T, it will be someone else - DK is determined to dump T-Mo because it is a business loser. AT&T is a good fit because they are both GSM.

 

[Cuda1447]

If not AT&T, it will be someone else - DK is determined to dump T-Mo because it is a business loser. AT&T is a good fit because they are both GSM.

Not quite. T-Mo USA is a winner. Very profitable. DT Europe just has debts that it needs to restructure/payoff and they want the fast cash instead of a long term investment.

 

[corkyg]

Not quite. T-Mo USA is a winner. Very profitable. DT Europe just has debts that it needs to restructure/payoff and they want the fast cash instead of a long term investment.

And, . . . not quite.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/how-the-iphone-led-to-the-sale-of-t-mobile-usa/

 

[bettlebrox]

Do I think it will go through and do I want it to go through are two different questions with two different answers.

I agree! I think it will go through, but I don't think it should. It will limit choice in the marketplace, and I suspect that ATT's attempt to be the biggest mobile phone provider in the US won't mean they'll be the best.