AT&T sensors anti-Bush lyrics.

[theeedude]

http://www.reuters.com/article...ype=RSS&rpc=22&sp=true

NEW YORK (Billboard) - Pearl Jam fans and Internet watchdogs were up in arms Thursday after it was revealed that AT&T Inc. censored portions of the rock band's live concert cybercast on Sunday.

While performing "Daughter" during the annual Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, the band segued into a portion of Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall," during which frontman Eddie Vedder sang, "George Bush, leave this world alone" and "George Bush, find yourself another home." Those lyrics were missing from the broadcast.

Of course so called "conservatives" keep railing on the so called "liberal media" while corporations consolidate their control over what you get to hear and see in the media. Soon, we'll be like Russia where all the media is owned by companies friendly to the state leadership.

 

[Fern]

So now AT&T is a media company like ABC, NBC etc?

I guess I didn't get the memo 😕

Anyway, this seems relevant but somehow didn't make it's way into your quoted portion of the article:

In a statement, AT&T attributed the bleeping to "a mistake by a Webcast vendor" that was "contrary to our policy. We have policies in place with respect to editing excessive profanity, but AT&T does not censor performances. We very much regret that this happened in the first place."

The company also said it was "working with the band to post the song in its entirety," a sentiment echoed by Pearl Jam on its official Web site (http://www.pearljam.com). "In the future, we will work even harder to ensure that our live broadcasts or webcasts are free from arbitrary edits," read a statement on PearlJam.com.

Fern

 

[theeedude]

AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

Exactly.

Can't let this even start to grab hold otherwise we will end up like the Chinese when they try to Google Tiananmen Square = 404 File Not Found.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

thanks for the hot tip!

However, I think i'll put this in the "Army blogger who lied" category, in terms of importance.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

thanks for the hot tip!

However, I think i'll put this in the "Army blogger who lied" category, in terms of importance.

Except the "Army blogger who lied" doesn't control what you see on your television and what opinions you get to hear.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

thanks for the hot tip!

However, I think i'll put this in the "Army blogger who lied" category, in terms of importance.

Except the "Army blogger who lied" doesn't control what you see on your television and what opinions you get to hear.

He doesnt decide what I eat for breakfast either, so what's your point? 😀

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

thanks for the hot tip!

However, I think i'll put this in the "Army blogger who lied" category, in terms of importance.

Except the "Army blogger who lied" doesn't control what you see on your television and what opinions you get to hear.

He doesnt decide what I eat for breakfast either, so what's your point? 😀

You NEED MORE FIBER in your diet.. :laugh: 😉

 

[theeedude]

So AT&T will spy on you for the government, and it will also filter content that is unfriendly to the government from reaching you. Yep, nothing to worry about here.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp
So AT&T will spy on you for the government, and it will also filter content that is unfriendly to the government from reaching you. Yep, nothing to worry about here.

I think you need to begin construction on your electronics-free bunker now... don't wait! :laugh:

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
So AT&T will spy on you for the government, and it will also filter content that is unfriendly to the government from reaching you. Yep, nothing to worry about here.

I think you need to begin construction on your electronics-free bunker now... don't wait! :laugh:

You cannot dispute the truth of the two statements he made can you.. honestly

 

[JD50]

Senseamp can you please link your thread where you called out CNN for the "mistakes" that they have made? Thanks.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: senseamp
AT&T is a media distribution company like Comcast. They control the distribution of content, what and who you see. Of course now that they got caught they are claiming it's just a mistake. It's funny how "mistake" just happened to impact anti-Bush statements.

thanks for the hot tip!

However, I think i'll put this in the "Army blogger who lied" category, in terms of importance.

Except the "Army blogger who lied" doesn't control what you see on your television and what opinions you get to hear.

He doesnt decide what I eat for breakfast either, so what's your point? 😀

You NEED MORE FIBER in your diet.. :laugh: 😉

zing

 

[Mxylplyx]

People listen to musicians to hear their music, not their trendy political views. When they get politicial, they are doing it for purely self serving reasons, and turning off a significant part of their audience. If AT&T is sponsoring some event of theirs, it's bad for business when they say controversial crap that has nothing to do with the purpose of the event that might cause alot of viewers to tune out, and thus cost AT&T money.

To sum it up, your an idiot if you believe AT&T had anything but their business interests in mind when they censored PJ's comments.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fern
So now AT&T is a media company like ABC, NBC etc?

I guess I didn't get the memo 😕

Yes they are.

They lobbied for years to own content and won it with the Bush Administration.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: JD50
Senseamp can you please link your thread where you called out CNN for the "mistakes" that they have made? Thanks.

Huh? CNN was wrong to support/not criticize the Iraq war and also the Kosovo bombing under Clinton too.
The whole cable news industry now is a big joke. It's all missing white women, random sensationalist legal and celebrity, coverage, red herrings, useless pundits, and complete ignorance and lack of interest in the issues that impact people's lives and the future of this country. International coverage is absolutely pathetic across the board. Legislative coverage is largely limited to hot button issues, almost no oversight over the government is provided. CNN and MSNBC are just as responsible, though more through neglect and cowardice than an outright agenda like Fox News.
But you are confusing the sources of information with the channel of information that is AT&T. You don't have to trust every source of information, but you should be able to trust the channel to not alter that information on its way to you.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
So now AT&T is a media company like ABC, NBC etc?

I guess I didn't get the memo 😕

Yes they are.

They lobbied for years to own content and won it with the Bush Administration.

OK, the OP's comments "Of course so called "conservatives" keep railing on the so called "liberal media" makes it sound like it's now a news channel like Fox or something. Thus my remark, cuz I don't have an AT&T channel, or do I? (under some other name)

If it's something else, what kind of media company are they?

Just asking.

TIA,

Fern

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
So now AT&T is a media company like ABC, NBC etc?

I guess I didn't get the memo 😕

Yes they are.

They lobbied for years to own content and won it with the Bush Administration.

OK, the OP's comments "Of course so called "conservatives" keep railing on the so called "liberal media" makes it sound like it's now a news channel like Fox or something. Thus my remark, cuz I don't have an AT&T channel, or do I? (under some other name)

If it's something else, what kind of media company are they?

Just asking.

TIA,

Fern

Their "Blue Room" where this censoring took place is owned by at&t.

This is the same service they want to split the Internet into the "Internets" by eliminating Net Nuetraility

This is a pre-cursor of whats to come.

Do you like it and support it?.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Do you like it and support it?.

Ummm. I still don't understand.

I guess I think of a media company as someone who broadcasts on TV (radio too, I guess). I suppose newpapers & magazines are *print* media.

Are they a media company soley because they do webcasts?

If so, that's a pretty broad definition. I saw the US Open (golf tournament) on a webcast by the USGA (United States Gold Assoc). Are they now a media company too?

I suppose I also don't understand how content neccesarily fits in. Michael Jackson owns the Beatles library of music, that's a lot of valuable *content*. But he's not *media*.

(Type more slowly, maybe I'll get it 😉 )

Edit: Oops, I forgot. I thought only the government could censor, not a company etc.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
People listen to musicians to hear their music, not their trendy political views. When they get politicial, they are doing it for purely self serving reasons, and turning off a significant part of their audience. If AT&T is sponsoring some event of theirs, it's bad for business when they say controversial crap that has nothing to do with the purpose of the event that might cause alot of viewers to tune out, and thus cost AT&T money.

To sum it up, your an idiot if you believe AT&T had anything but their business interests in mind when they censored PJ's comments.

The whole "you're a musician/actor so you can't talk about things that are important to you" thing I'll never understand. Music is political, it's been political for a long long time.

If you know the slightest thing about Pearl Jam, you should expect Eddie to take a $hit on Bush each and every show that they have. When AT&T broadcasts something with them in it, they also know that he will take a $hit on Bush. I don't even see how hating Bush is controversial at this point... pretty much more then 2/3rds of the country does. That's as close to a consensus as you're likely to get about anything.

 

[agibby5]

Glad I'm not with ATT anymore. Censorship = shit!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Do you like it and support it?.

Ummm. I still don't understand.

I guess I think of a media company as someone who broadcasts on TV (radio too, I guess). I suppose newpapers & magazines are *print* media.

Are they a media company soley because they do webcasts?

If so, that's a pretty broad definition. I saw the US Open (golf tournament) on a webcast by the USGA (United States Gold Assoc). Are they now a media company too?

I suppose I also don't understand how content neccesarily fits in. Michael Jackson owns the Beatles library of music, that's a lot of valuable *content*. But he's not *media*.

(Type more slowly, maybe I'll get it 😉 )

Edit: Oops, I forgot. I thought only the government could censor, not a company etc.

Fern

Not to worry, you'll understand once you are personally affected.

 

[miketheidiot]

i find the increasing concentration and collaboration of corporate and government power to be very concerning.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
People listen to musicians to hear their music, not their trendy political views. When they get politicial, they are doing it for purely self serving reasons, and turning off a significant part of their audience. If AT&T is sponsoring some event of theirs, it's bad for business when they say controversial crap that has nothing to do with the purpose of the event that might cause alot of viewers to tune out, and thus cost AT&T money.

To sum it up, your an idiot if you believe AT&T had anything but their business interests in mind when they censored PJ's comments.

I listen to musicians to hear their political views as well, which are sometimes far from 'trendy'.

When they get political, they are doing it as something they believe in as human beings and citizens, as our founding fathers and other advocates of democracy intended, as opposed to the mindless sheep citizenship that Mzylplyx wants to enforce on society where rebellion is not needed.

If they 'turn off' a lot of the audience, good for them in making the sacrifice to stand up for principle, something Mxylplyx appears not to have any idea about from his post here.

He's right, though, that it's in the corporate sponsor interest to avoid controversy, which is why our media is so filled with crap drivel instead of important issues. But he likes it.

I've always found the "your an idiot" comment rather ironic.

As for the OP, I'll give them some benefit of the doubt that it was innocent. But I like to see the issue responded to with alarm, to err on the side to stop any growth in censorship.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Topic Title: AT&T sensors anti-Bush lyrics.
Topic Summary: "librul media" in action.

I'm not sure where the sarcasm starts and ends 🙁