AT&T DSL and U-Verse caps coming

her209

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From the Off Topic thread:

Look at AT&T's 03/01/2011 10-K filing here.

att-wireline-financials.jpg


On page 76 of the document, it breaks down the revenue and expenses for their Wireline segment. As you can see, the revenue for their Data went up 7.5% from 2009 AND their Operations and Support expenses went down 3.2%..........

In other words, THIS IS JUST A MONEY GRAB.
 

Texashiker

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If people are using more then 250 gigs a month, they need to cut back on their usage. Under normal usage, I do not see how people would get anywhere close to 250 gigs.

My isp has a 10 gig cap, and people are complaining about a 250 gig cap?
 

Nothinman

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If people are using more then 250 gigs a month, they need to cut back on their usage. Under normal usage, I do not see how people would get anywhere close to 250 gigs.

My isp has a 10 gig cap, and people are complaining about a 250 gig cap?

Why should anyone have to live by your arbitrary numbers?
 

Texashiker

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Why should anyone have to live by your arbitrary numbers?

Nobody should "have" to live by "my" numbers.

What is the big deal with a 250 gig cap, when people get by with much lower numbers? Out of the number of people complaining about a 250 gig cap, how many actually come close to that number.
 

Nothinman

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Nobody should "have" to live by "my" numbers.

What is the big deal with a 250 gig cap, when people get by with much lower numbers? Out of the number of people complaining about a 250 gig cap, how many actually come close to that number.

Lots of people can get by with $20K/year jobs too so why should they try to make more and complain about their salaries? Arbitrary limits are stupid in almost every case. I've downloaded around 4G just on my phone this month so far without even trying.
 

RadiclDreamer

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This is why i am leaving all ATT services when my cell contract is up, I do not respect them as a company. That and their mobile data service sucks
 

JackMDS

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If One is using the connection to work and generate income than it is part of business and if needed One pays more and factor it in into the general business budget.

If the Internet Connection is mainly use for pleasure, all of this "Winening" just illustrate how good your life is.


:cool:
 

sathyan

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The average American watches 151 hours of TV per month according to Nielsen. If that was replaced by HD Netflix streaming it would come to (151 x 60 x 60 x 3800 kbps) / (8 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 240.48 GB without any other bandwidth use.
 

slag

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The average American watches 151 hours of TV per month according to Nielsen. If that was replaced by HD Netflix streaming it would come to (151 x 60 x 60 x 3800 kbps) / (8 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 240.48 GB without any other bandwidth use.

I think people watch so much TV because its easy to come home, plop on the couch, and just flick a switch to turn on the TV. By contrast, its harder to go out to youtube or netflix and pick something to watch and then watch it. If we only had netflix or hulu, we'd watch a crapton less tv as a whole in my family.

I think watching less TV is a good thing.

Also, please explain your calculation.
 

Fayd

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I think people watch so much TV because its easy to come home, plop on the couch, and just flick a switch to turn on the TV. By contrast, its harder to go out to youtube or netflix and pick something to watch and then watch it. If we only had netflix or hulu, we'd watch a crapton less tv as a whole in my family.

I think watching less TV is a good thing.

Also, please explain your calculation.

he did explain the calculation. if you don't understand it, maybe you should try learning math.
 

Nothinman

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If One is using the connection to work and generate income than it is part of business and if needed One pays more and factor it in into the general business budget.

If the Internet Connection is mainly use for pleasure, all of this "Winening" just illustrate how good your life is.


:cool:

So? If I'm paying for advertised "unlimited" bandwidth, that's what I should get. The current agreements virtually all ISPs offer are littered with fine print bullshit that needs to go away. If you want to offered limited, tiered plans that's fine, just make it so people actually know what they're buying.

And we all know there are less fortunate people around the world and we could all do more to help any of a million various causes, but that's a completely separate subject and shouldn't be even be brought up. Saying that we have it good because we're being abused in a different way isn't helpful to the discussion at all.
 

her209

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Also, please explain your calculation.
(151 hours per American x 60 minutes per hour x 60 seconds per minute x 3800 kilobits per second) = 2065680000 kilobits per American = 2065680000000 bits per American

(8 bits per byte x 1024 bytes per kilobyte x 1024 kilobytes per megabyte x 1024 megabytes per gigabyte) = 8589934592 bits per gigabyte

2065680000000 bits per American / 8589934592 bits per gigabyte ~ 240 gigbytes per American
 

Cstefan

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Uverse runs circles around Time warner, caps or not, I wish I could still get it.
 

ScottMac

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(151 hours per American x 60 minutes per hour x 60 seconds per minute x 3800 kilobits per second) = 2065680000 kilobits per American = 2065680000000 bits per American

(8 bits per byte x 1024 bytes per kilobyte x 1024 kilobytes per megabyte x 1024 megabytes per gigabyte) = 8589934592 bits per gigabyte

2065680000000 bits per American / 8589934592 bits per gigabyte ~ 240 gigbytes per American

Actually it's more than that, because of protocol overhead and supervisory traffic.