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AT review of 4870 1GB

All that article did is make me want to get a 260 SLI setup....

Would need a new psu though... and my x2 5000+ wouldn't keep up... bah....
 
Nice, looks like a good buy at this price, from AT:
The Radeon HD 4870 1GB is a better buy than both the GTX 260 and core 216 variant. AMD says MSRP is between $280 and $300, and a quick look at Google shows us that the Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB is priced at $290. This is definitely not bad for the types of performance gains we are seeing. If the card is to be used for high resolution gaming with all the settings, then up to a 10% to 15% increase in price over the stock 4870 is not a bad investment (unless, of course, you only play the games that don't see a real benefit from the additional RAM). And at these settings, there's an additional bonus in that this performance improvement might just make the playability difference for some people in some of these games.
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To me, this looks like a better buy than a 280. In some games it even bests the GTX280, the 4870 wins 3 of the 7 benches and if we go by the Crysis Warhead bench here the 4870 is faster on 'Enthusiast' mode and higher minimums on 'Gamer'. Wonder when we will see the OC versions.
 
Hmm, I wonder if it's worth upgrading to 1GB model from the 512MB one (I play at 1600*1200). feels tempting.
 
Originally posted by: mauri
Hmm, I wonder if it's worth upgrading to 1GB model from the 512MB one (I play at 1600*1200). feels tempting.
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I know what you're saying. :laugh:
I just got the 512 variant and I'm hoping it will show up really soon at the store I've bought it from, so I'll make a quick upgrade.
 
I have the 1gb version of the card. I love it, I had it setup at 2x or 4x AA with crysis, on a qx6850 setup, 2x2gb running at 400mhz on Vista 64 I saw FPS anywhere from 35-50 and it was at 13*0x1024 setting.

Edit:
Since this is my first homebuilt PC in few years I was like "whoa" when I saw how big the card is length and width wise. It took over my PCI-E spot and extened close enough to the bays on the antec 300.
It idles around 65-70 and right after i close crysis and check temps its at 78.
 
Am I correct to assume if you game at 1680x1050 that the gtx 260/4870 512 would still be the better option (Price vs. performance)? Or would the 1gig help with AA, even at 1680?
 
Originally posted by: jayans04

It idles around 65-70 and right after i close crysis and check temps its at 78.
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Probably during Crysis it hits somewhere near 90 C or more. In 2 seconds it can drop 10 C. You really need to do the fan speed guide or else you'll loose the card really fast.
 
I just bought the 512Mb version yesterday and found that the 1Gb is only like $25 more :frown:

It hasn't shipped yet, think it's worth me trying and see if I can replace it? I will be gaming on a 22" btw
 
Originally posted by: KingstonU
I just bought the 512Mb version yesterday and found that the 1Gb is only like $25 more :frown:

It hasn't shipped yet, think it's worth me trying and see if I can replace it? I will be gaming on a 22" btw
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If it were me, I'd cancel before it ships. If I was buying a new card now, this would be it.

I'm sitting with my 8800GT which is awsome in just about everything except Crysis and the new Stalker. But I think I'm going to wait until Nvidia releases another card. Then I'll buy the best price/performance card.
 
Originally posted by: KingstonU
I just bought the 512Mb version yesterday and found that the 1Gb is only like $25 more :frown:

It hasn't shipped yet, think it's worth me trying and see if I can replace it? I will be gaming on a 22" btw
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10-15% performance increase for 25 bucks? Hell yes I'd cancel.
 
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=7

unless Cat 8.9 completely fixed Grid's stuttering and lagging, 4870/512 has playability issues at 19x12
.. nevermind 25x16 - i'd LOVE to see AT's minimums in their reviews

i think i will pick up Grid today

i don't seen any minimum FPS given .. that is crucial to any "playability" review, imo
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I play at 1920x1200 and have absolutley NO issues with stuttering and lagging at all. I play Warhammer Online with AA and some AF on also. Sure it's only $25-$30 but is it really worth it for 2-4 FPS at 1920x1200? NOPE.
 
This looks like an impressive card, but as apoppin said these reviews are not very useful without minimum readings. Xbit's reviews on the 4800 and GTX cards show that the minimums often differ significantly between cards even in cases where the averages look similar.
 
Originally posted by: deerhunter716
I play at 1920x1200 and have absolutley NO issues with stuttering and lagging at all. I play Warhammer Online with AA and some AF on also. Sure it's only $25-$30 but is it really worth it for 2-4 FPS at 1920x1200? NOPE.
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That statement is very illogical, you can always say this no matter what performance is, one can always keep go up or go down in the price, but you will have to pick a point. And if you think rationally, it makes sense to spend a little more to get more smooth frame rate.

Now if you are going to say 2-4 FPS is unnoticeable, that's NOT TRUE. First, in some game avg 30 to avg 34 can make a difference. Also, 2-4 maybe unnoticeable what about 4-8? 10-20? Like I said, you have to pick a point, and what makes the point you picked that much better than others?

Sorry if this sound a little charged, but I hate seeing irrational argument like xxx is so small of a change it's "unnoticeable" and not even worth $(also a very very small sum as well). Unless you can show its price/performance is worse, you cannot say it's not worth it just because a little away from the price/performance point you picked.
 
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Originally posted by: KingstonU
I just bought the 512Mb version yesterday and found that the 1Gb is only like $25 more :frown:

It hasn't shipped yet, think it's worth me trying and see if I can replace it? I will be gaming on a 22" btw
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10-15% performance increase for 25 bucks? Hell yes I'd cancel.
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It isn't giving that kind of gain at 1600x1050 across the board. Actually, in some titles the delta seems consistent across resolutions, where in other titles there is either a steep drop off, or virtually non-existent gains below the top resolution. So I'd say whether it is a no-brainer or not depends on what resolution you're at. Probably even what games you're playing.

- woolfe
 
I'm surprised that there was any improvement at all in situations where there was no apparent framerate hit due to insufficient framebuffer. Are the specs identical between the 512MB and 1GB 4870 other than the fact that the 512MB memory is Qimonda and the 1GB chips are from Hynix? If so, then I fail to see why the two cards don't perform identically until the point where the 512MB simply runs out of memory.

What am I missing here?
 
Originally posted by: sskk
Originally posted by: deerhunter716
I play at 1920x1200 and have absolutley NO issues with stuttering and lagging at all. I play Warhammer Online with AA and some AF on also. Sure it's only $25-$30 but is it really worth it for 2-4 FPS at 1920x1200? NOPE.
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That statement is very illogical, you can always say this no matter what performance is, one can always keep go up or go down in the price, but you will have to pick a point. And if you think rationally, it makes sense to spend a little more to get more smooth frame rate.

Now if you are going to say 2-4 FPS is unnoticeable, that's NOT TRUE. First, in some game avg 30 to avg 34 can make a difference. Also, 2-4 maybe unnoticeable what about 4-8? 10-20? Like I said, you have to pick a point, and what makes the point you picked that much better than others?

Sorry if this sound a little charged, but I hate seeing irrational argument like xxx is so small of a change it's "unnoticeable" and not even worth $(also a very very small sum as well). Unless you can show its price/performance is worse, you cannot say it's not worth it just because a little away from the price/performance point you picked.
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Okay so let me be more exact. In Warhammer I get anywhere from 45-80 FPS depending on where I am at. In Call of duty 4 I get 50-60+ always. So NO the 2-4 FPS would NOT be noticeable at all. What is it they say that to the naked eye after 30 FPS you see no difference?
 
What is it they say that to the naked eye after 30 FPS you see no difference?
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"They" say that because "they" are morons.

Granted, the difference between the cards is generally pretty small, but there are still a few games like GRID where it is much more significant.
 
When the non-reference Palit/Gainward/Xpertvision 1G version is available, I think I'm going to jump on it.

Edit: Or maybe when the Egg has the POWERCOLOR non-reference one in stock again.
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=7

unless Cat 8.9 completely fixed Grid's stuttering and lagging, 4870/512 has playability issues at 19x12
.. nevermind 25x16 - i'd LOVE to see AT's minimums in their reviews

i think i will pick up Grid today

i don't seen any minimum FPS given .. that is crucial to any "playability" review, imo
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Grid is funny.... you have to reinstall the damn thing every time you change your hardware, or so it seems....
 
Wow, as far as average frame rates go this card pretty much trades blows with the GTX280. Seems like a winner for under $300 to me.
 
I'm surprised they saw so little improvement in Oblivion. As I posted in the comments. I wonder if their Oblivion test just uses vanilla textures.

Anyway, I already ordered one 4870 1GB a few days ago and it's currently on its way to Ottawa.😀
 
Hmm.......I dont remember the Core 216 260 thread being stickied...but I do see this one is, and so was some crappy low-end ATi 46XX nonsense. Not that i'm shocked.
 
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