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TwinsenTacquito

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I am just amazed you post more troll content then actual content in your posts.

If an automatic decides to accelerate in gear or downshift then accelerate, what does that matter? You lost a whole 1/4 second on the downshift and now accelerating faster than if left in the previous gear. Also, I believe you missed a key point in the entire discussion about this whole deal. Floor it aka pedal to the medal. In most automatics, except for a few exceptions (redlining, or in 1st gear), this will trigger a gear change.

Because I say there's a 1/4 second lag and I got 10 trolls saying there isn't. I gotta post the same thing 5 fucking times before someone will admit it, and all the other trolls have already left. Because they knew they were just trolling.

Thanks for calling me a troll while I had a hook in my mouth, troll.
 

obamanation

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glad to see you get corrected by others before i had to.
there are PLENTY of bad manual drivers. riding clutch, coasting in neutral, not rev matching while downshifting.

please don't tell me because u drive stick, u actually think you're better a better driver than everyone else.
coasting in neutral is considered bad driving? lulz... I think you took the law about coasting in neutral a bit too far.. The laws around coasting in neutral usually stipulate that it's not legal to coast in neutral down hill for very obvious reasons.
 

Bignate603

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Because I say there's a 1/4 second lag and I got 10 trolls saying there isn't. I gotta post the same thing 5 fucking times before someone will admit it, and all the other trolls have already left. Because they knew they were just trolling.

Thanks for calling me a troll while I had a hook in my mouth, troll.

Do you really think you shift that much faster than an automatic?
 

exdeath

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Do you really think you shift that much faster than an automatic?

Doubt it. A normal take off, in a manual he is probably wrapping out second banging gears while the automatic has already shifted through third and forth and is just cruising.
 

Bignate603

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Hey, another misdirect. I really can't say anything without somebody twisting it, can I?

I NEVER SAID THAT. I DIDN'T EVEN HINT AT THAT. I SAID NOTHING LIKE THAT.

No, you said that you caused two different accidents because the supposed eternity that an automatic takes to shift. You're convinced that if you just stomped the gas with a manual you would have somehow been better off.

The fact of the matter is that you probably accelerated better by the automatic downshifting even with the lag. Anyways, if you're driving so close to the limit that the time for the downshift causes accidents you're a lousy driver, plain and simple.
 

TwinsenTacquito

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The fact of the matter is that you probably accelerated better by the automatic downshifting even with the lag.

More like the lie of the matter, because that is incorrect.

Anyways, if you're driving so close to the limit that the time for the downshift causes accidents you're a lousy driver, plain and simple.

Yeah, it couldn't be that I was in a city. You win logic. Imagine I am a one man band playing the final fantasy 7 fanfare song just for you.
 

exdeath

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More like the lie of the matter, because that is incorrect.



Yeah, it couldn't be that I was in a city. You win logic. Imagine I am a one man band playing the final fantasy 7 fanfare song just for you.

Final Fantasy 7... lmao. You just painted yourself right there as a 15 yr old who thinks Halo and Fast and the Furious are the best shit EVAR!!!11! Do you spike your hair, bleach the tips blue or blond, and drive a Honda with blue headlights and kanji on the back window, and think you're the coolest shit ever? Do you have wet dreams of being like Sephiroth?

That's like the shittiest game of the entire Final Fantasy series. Only 15 year olds with ADHD think highly of it.
 

TwinsenTacquito

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I played it once at blockbuster when it was new.

But the age and the hair style are correct.

And I made the best movie of all time by pasting halo helmets over the characters in gone in 60 seconds.
 

Bignate603

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Yeah, it couldn't be that I was in a city. You win logic. Imagine I am a one man band playing the final fantasy 7 fanfare song just for you.

So you think it's normal to cause accidents during city driving because of a split second lag of acceleration? Wow, people must cause accidents like that all the time because an awesome driver like you caused two of them. Oh wait, they don't. If you're the only one having an issue that's a pretty strong indication that the problem with you, not the car.

I'm firmly convinced that you're a lousy driver but honestly believe that you're better than average. You might want to look up the Dunning-Krueger effect, it sure seems like you're showing it.

Here are the study's original hypotheses, after the study they found that they held pretty darn true.

  1. Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill.
  2. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others.
  3. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy.
  4. If they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill.
This describes quite a few members on these forums. :rolleyes:
 

TwinsenTacquito

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So you think it's normal to cause accidents during city driving because of a split second lag of acceleration? Wow, people must cause accidents like that all the time because an awesome driver like you caused two of them. Oh wait, they don't. If you're the only one having an issue that's a pretty strong indication that the problem with you, not the car.

I'm firmly convinced that you're a lousy driver but honestly believe that you're better than average. You might want to look up the Dunning-Krueger effect, it sure seems like you're showing it.

Here are the study's original hypotheses, after the study they found that they held pretty darn true.

  1. Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill.
  2. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others.
  3. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy.
  4. If they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill.
This describes quite a few members on these forums. :rolleyes:

4/10.

You had me at first because it was car talk. However, every time your side of the argument was shown to be meaningless or wrong, you changed to talk about something else in a manner that was trollworthy. I'd have graded higher, but I was only strung along because we were talking about cars.

None of your connections make any sense, you lose. Go back under a bridge.
 

Bignate603

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None of your connections make any sense, you lose. Go back under a bridge.

If other people say they could reasonably believe a good driver could cause multiple accidents because of a fraction of a second delay when an automatic downshifts I'll admit I'm trolling this thread and leave it alone.

If you had just said it was one accident because of it I'd think maybe it was just a random thing that happened. Stuff happens, even to good drivers. However, the likliehood of it happening twice to a good driver (especially because they should have learned from the first time) is not that high. We're not talking about a huge amount of lag here and the majority of drivers in the US are driving around with automatic transmissions that all have that lag. They aren't causing accidents left and right because of lag in a downshift.

Either there was something wrong with the vehicle to cause incredibly slow downshifts or there is something wrong with the driver. When everyone else can do something without a problem but you're repeatedly causing accidents it really suggests the problem is you, not the transmission.

To the OP (if he's still reading this):
The idea that an automatic causes accidents is a bunch of bull. They accelerate just fine when you stomp on it and if that split second it takes to downshift will cause an accident you're driving very dangerously.
 
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