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At last, women lash out at hip hop's abuses

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At last, women lash out at hip hop's abuses

The most successful black women's magazine, Essence, is in the middle of a campaign that could have monumental cultural significance.
Essence is taking on the slut images and verbal abuse projected onto black women by hip hop lyrics and videos.

The magazine is the first powerful presence in the black media with the courage to examine the cultural pollution that is too often excused because of the wealth it brings to knuckleheads and amoral executives.

This anything-goes-if-sells attitude comes at a cost. The elevation of pimps and pimp attitudes creates a sadomasochistic relationship with female fans. They support a popular idiom that consistently showers them with contempt. We are in a crisis, and Essence knows it.

When asked how the magazine decided to take a stand, the editor, Diane Weathers said, "We started looking at the media war on young girls, the hypersexualization that keeps pushing them in sexual directions at younger and younger ages."

Things got deeper, she says, because, "We started talking at the office about all this hatred in rap song after rap song, and once we started, the subject kept coming up because women were incapable of getting it off their minds."

At a listening session that Weathers and the other staffers had with entertainment editor Cori Murray, "We found the rap lyrics astonishing, brutal, misogynistic. ... So we said we were going to pull no punches, especially since women were constantly being assaulted."

They were inspired by a campaign that some fathers and daughters led against Abercrombie & Fitch demanding that half-clad young people no longer be used to sell the clothing. When the campaign succeeded, the Essence staff realized there is a serious problem in the world of advertising as well as music.

"When we started this," Weathers said, "all the editors came together. We formed a music committee - staff volunteers who did the research and then focus groups of women and men of all ages.

"Then in April, there was the demonstration at Spelman College in Atlanta. The young women - supported by the men at Morehouse, by the way! - told the rapper Nelly that they didn't want him on campus because his work was too insulting.

"We realized that, my God, we were right on point! What we were feeling and what we were finding out in our research was all correct. It was time. Women were no longer going to sit still."

Essence has a year-long strategy that includes a town meeting at Spelman College in February.

Things are getting hot. This is a beginning that has been a long time coming, and it is good to see it all forming naturally with the women in the lead.

Originally published on January 3, 2005

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Good for them!
 
Essence is taking on the slut images and verbal abuse projected onto black women by hip hop lyrics and videos.

Wow, lol :laugh:
Hip Hop has always and will always be know for the thug look and it's use or misuse of scampy clad women. Im not complaining, I do not think that the women in the videos complain much when they are making the money. Hip Hop would not be what it is today without this image.
Just another band wagon for people to jump on and make a quick buck.........
 
hip hop doesn't suck, the junk you hear on the radio is what the music industry wants to feed our kids. Blame clear channell, not the genre. There are some excellent positive hip hop stuff out there, that just gets ignored by the media. Check out this track: Talib Kweli - Around My Way.
 
Women are hot.
They sell.
Conservatives have known this for decades.

Also...since when are you all about women's rights 😉 *cough* woman's right to choose *cough*
 
Originally posted by: digiram
hip hop doesn't suck, the junk you hear on the radio is what the music industry wants to feed our kids. Blame clear channell, not the genre. There are some excellent positive hip hop stuff out there, that just gets ignored by the media. Check out this track: Talib Kweli - Around My Way.

Originally posted by: Stunt
Women are hot.
They sell.
Conservatives have known this for decades.

Also...since when are you all about women's rights 😉 *cough* woman's right to choose *cough*

That's so true, if the Corporate Thugs didn't see $$$ from promoting this we wouldn't have the product.

I'm amazed the OP posted this, does he realize it is a biting of the hand that feeds you??? :shocked:

 
Does exercise of free speech warrent "lashing out"? Just wondering if we should all campaign against the free expression of ideas we disagree with. We of course don't have to listen, but my understanding is that these groups often take things too far and start trying to make it so no one can listen.
 
Does anyone have any pictures of women in tight short clothing? I need to gather some notes on the topic at hand lol
 
Who would have thought admiring god's creation would be thought of as sinful by Rip.
I bet adam and eve had tons of baggy clothing which was not revealing in the least.

i second the motion for pics of what this outcry is about 😀
 
Joe Budden Hip-Hop Song Advises Violence Against Pregnant Women Who Refuse Abortion

LOS ANGELES, June 30, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a remixed version of pop artist Usher's new song called Confessions (remix), Hip-Hop artist Joe Budden suggests violent action against a mother when she is unwilling to abort her child.

Confessions (remix) includes lyrics such as:
?Pray that she abort that,
If she's talkin' 'bout keepin' it,
One hit to the stomach,
She's leakin' it?

Commenting on the lyrics, Day Gardner, director of Black Americans for Life, an outreach of the National Right to Life Committee, said, "These lyrics are demeaning and outright violent toward both women and unborn children. It is appalling to suggest that a man attack a woman to cause the death of her unborn child. As women and as mothers, we simply cannot allow ourselves or our unborn children to be treated as objects of such abuse."

Black Americans for Life is urging African-Americans to call BMG Entertainment, the parent group of Usher's record label LaFace/Zomba, to request that they pull support of the song and to call their local R &B/Hip-Hop stations to request that Confessions (remix) be pulled from their playlists and from the air.

Jhw

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Wasn't there a story about a guy who struck his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach with a baseball bat to cause her to abort?

Wonder if he was a hip hop fan?
 
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
If we all had a little more Jesus and a little less G-unit, the US would become the best country ever....

There are a lot of people in the U.S. whose Worship of God does not include Jesus.

Maybe we need a little more awareness and a little less Christian evangelism.

That's what the founding fathers intended.
 
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
If we all had a little more Jesus and a little less G-unit, the US would become the best country ever....

There are a lot of people in the U.S. whose Worship of God does not include Jesus.

Maybe we need a little more awareness and a little less Christian evangelism.

That's what the founding fathers intended.

Ding ding ding, winnar :thumbsup: 😎 :beer:
 
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
If we all had a little more Jesus and a little less G-unit, the US would become the best country ever....

There are a lot of people in the U.S. whose Worship of God does not include Jesus.

Maybe we need a little more awareness and a little less Christian evangelism.

That's what the founding fathers intended.

ditto
 
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
If we all had a little more Jesus and a little less G-unit, the US would become the best country ever....


HAHAHA!! Quote of the year material.

I can just imagine the shirts

My G-unit is Jesus.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Does exercise of free speech warrent "lashing out"? Just wondering if we should all campaign against the free expression of ideas we disagree with. We of course don't have to listen, but my understanding is that these groups often take things too far and start trying to make it so no one can listen.

The problem is that this is free speech for profit.. AND .. if a profit can be made calling women
WHORES
SLUTS
CRACK HO's
B!TCHES
FREAKS
SKEEZERS

Talking about
PIMPIN

KILLING PUNKAZZ COPS
KILLING PUNAZZ NIGGAZ
BEATING DOWN PUNKAZZ WHORES AND BITCHES

SUCKING DICK

SELLING CRACK

buying and sellig guns

There comes a point where something should be done about it..

 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Does exercise of free speech warrent "lashing out"? Just wondering if we should all campaign against the free expression of ideas we disagree with. We of course don't have to listen, but my understanding is that these groups often take things too far and start trying to make it so no one can listen.

The problem is that this is free speech for profit.. AND .. if a profit can be made calling women
WHORES
SLUTS
CRACK HO's
B!TCHES
FREAKS
SKEEZERS

Talking about
PIMPIN

KILLING PUNKAZZ COPS
KILLING PUNAZZ NIGGAZ
BEATING DOWN PUNKAZZ WHORES AND BITCHES

SUCKING DICK

SELLING CRACK

buying and sellig guns

There comes a point where something should be done about it..

No, no there doesn't. The point at which free speech can/should be limited is when it results in obvious and direct damage to other people. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, inciting a riot, these things are illegal because free speech is not free when it causes direct and obvious damage like that.

But as much as fundies like to talk about how rap music/video games/whatever is destroying the moral fabric of our society, it is difficult to link them together through cause and effect. First we must PROVE our society is becoming less moral, then we must PROVE that rap music (or whatever) is a direct cause of this moral slide, and that any moral slide has actually hurt someone. It may seem obvious to you that this is the case, but no one has proven anything.

Look, the reason we need to go so far protecting free speech is because of the alternative. In many other countries, any speech can be limited simply by citing "damage to the state". That's it. Such broad allegations are very difficult to disprove, so it is a very effective measure in limiting any speech large enough groups just don't like.

I know rap music isn't the best use of free speech, but it's rap music and independent journalism or neither. You can't have it both ways.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
The problem is that this is free speech for profit.. AND .. if a profit can be made calling women
WHORES
SLUTS
CRACK HO's
B!TCHES
FREAKS
SKEEZERS

Talking about
PIMPIN

KILLING PUNKAZZ COPS
KILLING PUNAZZ NIGGAZ
BEATING DOWN PUNKAZZ WHORES AND BITCHES

SUCKING DICK

SELLING CRACK

buying and sellig guns

There comes a point where something should be done about it..


you forgot CHICKEN HEAD GROUPIE ASS SKANK. 😛

Seriously though, good for the women. I used to listen to some rap, but I realized the message is corrosive so I've cut back a lot of it.
 
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: dahunan
The problem is that this is free speech for profit.. AND .. if a profit can be made calling women
WHORES
SLUTS
CRACK HO's
B!TCHES
FREAKS
SKEEZERS

Talking about
PIMPIN

KILLING PUNKAZZ COPS
KILLING PUNAZZ NIGGAZ
BEATING DOWN PUNKAZZ WHORES AND BITCHES

SUCKING DICK

SELLING CRACK

buying and sellig guns

There comes a point where something should be done about it..


you forgot CHICKEN HEAD GROUPIE ASS SKANK. 😛

Seriously though, good for the women. I used to listen to some rap, but I realized the message is corrosive so I've cut back a lot of it.



I listened to NWA and Too Short for about a year when I was about 17... Then all of a sudden one day .. I was like "huh, why am I remebering lyrics that call women bitches and ho's and sluts and hookers and crackfiends" and why do I think the cops are the bad guys .. and why do I think it is funny to sing

"boom boom boom .. I was gunnin' .. then you look and you see all the niggaz runnin and fallin and pushin and screamin and cussin.. I KEPT BUSS'n.. Then I realized it's time for me to go .. so I stopped.. jumped in the vehicle.. " NWA wanted for a homicide


I look back on that like a nightmare

 
BTW, I was a white kid going to a high school where there were about 8-10 blacks in the whole school.. some other white kid brought the music up from California with him. ..
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Wasn't there a story about a guy who struck his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach with a baseball bat to cause her to abort?

Wonder if he was a hip hop fan?

Wonder if he was a born again Christian?

 
you know, if you are so weak minded that music and other entertainment forms influence you to the point where you call women hoes and bitches and hate cops, you have some problems!


they boycotted nelly not just for that reason, but also for the fact that nelly SUCKS! he's a complete sellout


and as was previously mentioned, radio rap != hiphop

 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
you know, if you are so weak minded that music and other entertainment forms influence you to the point where you call women hoes and bitches and hate cops, you have some problems!


they boycotted nelly not just for that reason, but also for the fact that nelly SUCKS! he's a complete sellout


and as was previously mentioned, radio rap != hiphop

Thanks for stating the obvious there Captain Perfect...

only the lyrics.. I never actualy addressed anyone that way BUT .. I would bet anything that those lyrics helped promote that behavior and way of speech in black communities whom the rappers were claiming to be representing..
 
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