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ASUS ROG MATRIX POSEDION GTX 980 or MSI GAMING RX480 8GB ?

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presentxy

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Hi everyone my old Powercolor HD7870 PCS+'s memory doesnt work anymore.I'm seeing on my screen "purple square" gpu memory issue i have kinda problem before.Before HD7870 i have XFX HD6950 1GB same problem memory i mean i change that card with HD7870 PCS+ after 4,5 years now its not working anymore.

I'm gonna buy new graphics card.In my country same price i have 3 choose

MSI GTX 1060 6GB ARMOR OR ASUS ROG MATRIX POSEDION GTX 980 OR MSI GAMING RX480 8GB

These my options. I research about gpu failure rates amd is not good but also not high failure rate i mean nvidia a little good against amd about failure rate. Durability most important thing for me. So i'm gonna buy MATRIX POSEDION GTX980 i have 2 yo GPU,no fully DX12 support,28nm bla bla bla but performance same with these cards and also high durability what do you think guys ?
 
980 has only 4gb vram so its not worth it. Get the rx480 8gb if you are getting a good deal or wait for rx570 and 580 launching next week but it will be more expensive than rx470 and 480.
 
Unless the 980 is significantly cheaper I'm not sure why you'd choose it given the choice of those 3 cards. If it's the cheapest by far then I can't blame you for bargain shopping, but otherwise...
 
Once you tweak the RX 480 to get stable clock speeds, the performance between all three are comparable. I would not go for the GTX 980 - driver optimizations for it have stagnated. Between the RX 480 and the GTX 1060, personally I'd go for the RX 480.
 
Yeah long term I'll echo the RX 480 for the 8GB alone. The 980gtx at 4gb is just not worth it long term, unless it's really, really cheap as a temporary card.
 
I have no idea where you're getting your data for failure rates but it's total junk information. Most failures are fan failures which depends on the AIB partner version, not the GPU. If you are worried about failures, buy the better GPU (1060 6GB or 480 8GB) and get it from the board partner with the longest warranty and a reputation of honoring it. E.g. avoid Asus if you want an RMA to actually go through.
 
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/ this site tell us about failure test.

@Headfoot idk maybe its not really true but my exprerience is support that theory or whatever you call.And also there is no big difference between nv and amd rates there is no huge gap but i just want really tough GPU.For example why my pcs+ 7870 doesnt work anymore besides i always keep it cool,what happened ? maybe nvidia also doesnt work at the same time we cant know.

Why i choose GTX980 because of ASUS MATRIX ROG which is mean very high quality card.

ROG GTX 980 POSEDION PROS

Tough card

RX480 8GB PROS

14NM
8GB VRAM
FULLY DX12 SUPPORT
ASYNCH SHADERS

This is my conclusion. By the way cpu is AMD PHENOM II X6 1100T @3.8GHZ.AT MAXIMUM Setting there is no bottleneck or a little bottleneck can be.
 
presentxy said:
By the way cpu is AMD PHENOM II X6 1100T @3.8GHZ.AT MAXIMUM Setting there is no bottleneck or a little bottleneck can be.
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You're wrong - that CPU paired with any of those cards will be a huge bottleneck. See this video where it is paired with a GTX 1060 3GB:


Moreover, the Phenom II does not support SSE4 so some recent games may simply refuse to run on it.
 
tamz_msc said:
You're wrong - that CPU paired with any of those cards will be a huge bottleneck. See this video where it is paired with a GTX 1060 3GB:


Moreover, the Phenom II does not support SSE4 so some recent games may simply refuse to run on it.
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I'm not wrong,i just sad it will be bottleneck but not unplayable situations is here.Im just saying that.Besides my phenom ii x6 1100 runs 3.8GHZ.If somegames load GPU more than CPU there is no problem for example 3 years later any game can be hunger about GPU usage so bottleneck gonna reduce but not disappear thats it.
 
presentxy said:
I'm not wrong,i just sad it will be bottleneck but not unplayable situations is here.Im just saying that.Besides my phenom ii x6 1100 runs 3.8GHZ.If somegames load GPU more than CPU there is no problem for example 3 years later any game can be hunger about GPU usage so bottleneck gonna reduce but not disappear thats it.
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All I'm saying is that the gaming experience with your CPU with those graphics cards, assuming that you're playing at 1080p, will be sub-optimal. A Phenom II's equivalent Intel offering would be a Core 2 Quad. They are far from ideal when paired with the kind of cards you mention.

Also, many of the newer games will simply not run on it due to lack of SSE4.
 
presentxy said:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/ this site tell us about failure test.

@Headfoot idk maybe its not really true but my exprerience is support that theory or whatever you call.And also there is no big difference between nv and amd rates there is no huge gap but i just want really tough GPU.For example why my pcs+ 7870 doesnt work anymore besides i always keep it cool,what happened ? maybe nvidia also doesnt work at the same time we cant know.

Why i choose GTX980 because of ASUS MATRIX ROG which is mean very high quality card.

ROG GTX 980 POSEDION PROS

Tough card

RX480 8GB PROS

14NM
8GB VRAM
FULLY DX12 SUPPORT
ASYNCH SHADERS

This is my conclusion. By the way cpu is AMD PHENOM II X6 1100T @3.8GHZ.AT MAXIMUM Setting there is no bottleneck or a little bottleneck can be.
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They even say in their testing its mostly ASUS cards. Its the AIB partner that determines the failures, NOT the brand. The GPU is the least likely part to fail. Everything around it has a much higher chance of failing first.

In terms of durability the new XFX cards with the replaceable fans should be good, since most failures are fan failures.
 
tamz_msc said:
All I'm saying is that the gaming experience with your CPU with those graphics cards, assuming that you're playing at 1080p, will be sub-optimal. A Phenom II's equivalent Intel offering would be a Core 2 Quad. They are far from ideal when paired with the kind of cards you mention.

Also, many of the newer games will simply not run on it due to lack of SSE4.
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Yes its true not %100 power of my gpu im gonna see but for example im testing right now GTA V ultra settings at 1080p and everything nice also JUST CAUSE 3 so its not big problem.All im saying very acceptable result we gonna see.
 
1060 6GB is the fastest card there and faster again with overclocking. RX will be lucky to get 5 % OC, the 2GB adv of RAM will be irrevelant by the time it is of any use.
 
At the same price for all 3 cards, it is a toss up between the 480 and the 1060, with the 980 a very distant third.
Edit: As others have said, your cpu is probably not really up to running any of those cards. If you can find one significantly cheaper than the cards you are looking at, an RX 470 would be a good choice.
 
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Nvidia likes to purposely reduce performance on older cards with driver releases so the 980 may fall off the chart quick. If you can wait a week or so the RX 580 will be launching, I'm getting one myself.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
At the same price for all 3 cards, it is a toss up between the 480 and the 1060, with the 980 a very distant third.
Edit: As others have said, your cpu is probably not really up to running any of those cards. If you can find one significantly cheaper than the cards you are looking at, an RX 470 would be a good choice.
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Yeah i know but im not uprage my cpu right now two gen later im gonna upgrade mobo and cpu of course ram,at this moment im happy i can play ultra setting maybe not %100 power of my gpu but i dont care still playable and nice.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
At the same price for all 3 cards, it is a toss up between the 480 and the 1060, with the 980 a very distant third.
Edit: As others have said, your cpu is probably not really up to running any of those cards. If you can find one significantly cheaper than the cards you are looking at, an RX 470 would be a good choice.
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this

470 & 480 4gb are often great value
 
happy medium said:
Your Phenom is good match for a used gtx970/rx470, anything faster is a waste of money IMHO.
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Why its is waste of money ? If i bought RX470 then its waste of money.. I'm gonna upgrade my cpu and mobo 2 years later ZEN+ and next AMD platform or intel idk. I have to upgrade my GPU right now and i just bought it thats it i can use that GPU 5 years if its memory's can alive.

Besides i bought ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB and 0DB features its good or not for gpu health?
 
presentxy said:
Why its is waste of money ? If i bought RX470 then its waste of money.. I'm gonna upgrade my cpu and mobo 2 years later ZEN+ and next AMD platform or intel idk. I have to upgrade my GPU right now and i just bought it thats it i can use that GPU 5 years if its memory's can alive.

Besides i bought ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB and 0DB features its good or not for gpu health?
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The point is, in 5 years, both the 470 and the 480 will be low end cards. In fact, even in in two years when you upgrade the cpu, they will be nearing the end of the line. You could have used the money you saved by getting a 470 now, while you are going to be quite limited by the cpu, to put toward upgrading the gpu in the future. But don't worry, if you got the 480 it is a fine choice. The 470, 480, and 1060 (especially at the same price as the 480) are all very good choices.
 
Agreeing with that strategy. Find a deal on a cheap RX 470, and upgrade again in 2 years. It's a fair few dollars between RX 470 4GB and GTX 1060 6GB / RX 480 8GB, and with your CPU you probably cannot appreciate it. Those dollars may go a lot further in a couple years when you upgrade your CPU platform.
 
980 is a no go imo. It comes down to 480 vs 1060. Do you currently have or plan to get an adaptive sync monitor in the near term? If the answer is yes, is it going to be gsync or free sync?

If the answer is no, then get the card you can find the best deal on. Both are great 1080p cards
 
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