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Asus P5W DH Deluxe all ready for Conroe out of Box?

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If it doesn't post you can't do anything, it's that simple. However, replacing the bios chip really is as easy as he said. The hardest part is finding a suitably small screwdriver to wedge under one of the corners. Find an old motherboard and look at the bios chip, note that it is sitting in a socket (as opposed to being soldered to the PCB) and it has indentations in the corners so you can remove it.
 
Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
If it doesn't post you can't do anything, it's that simple. However, replacing the bios chip really is as easy as he said. The hardest part is finding a suitably small screwdriver to wedge under one of the corners. Find an old motherboard and look at the bios chip, note that it is sitting in a socket (as opposed to being soldered to the PCB) and it has indentations in the corners so you can remove it.
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My concern, unlike the OP's, isn't that it's difficult. My concern is that they'll take a week to ship the damn chip to Canada...

If my C2D is sitting there for a week, idle, because of ASUS' false advertising, I'm going to be rather pissed off. I'm going to be especially angry because I picked that board, as opposed to the Intel one which would have been "adequate" and $100 less, because of its AVAILABILITY... but if what's "available" doesn't boot C2Ds, oops.
 
Originally posted by: VivienM
Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
If it doesn't post you can't do anything, it's that simple. However, replacing the bios chip really is as easy as he said. The hardest part is finding a suitably small screwdriver to wedge under one of the corners. Find an old motherboard and look at the bios chip, note that it is sitting in a socket (as opposed to being soldered to the PCB) and it has indentations in the corners so you can remove it.
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My concern, unlike the OP's, isn't that it's difficult. My concern is that they'll take a week to ship the damn chip to Canada...

If my C2D is sitting there for a week, idle, because of ASUS' false advertising, I'm going to be rather pissed off. I'm going to be especially angry because I picked that board, as opposed to the Intel one which would have been "adequate" and $100 less, because of its AVAILABILITY... but if what's "available" doesn't boot C2Ds, oops.
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Intel isn't much better at the moment either. Some Bad Axe boards are shipping with the old revision...and a Bios update wont fix that either. You need to mod the board or buy the newer revision to get it to work with Conroe. Early adoption sucks, but its all we got right now.
 
Originally posted by: FallenHero

Intel isn't much better at the moment either. Some Bad Axe boards are shipping with the old revision...and a Bios update wont fix that either. You need to mod the board or buy the newer revision to get it to work with Conroe. Early adoption sucks, but its all we got right now.
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If I'd gone Intel, though, it would have been the DP965LT, not the Bad Axe... no revision issues there that I know of.

Oh well, we'll see when the board and C2D get here, I guess...
 
According to the massive motherboard roundup andantech.com did the 965 motherboards just don't overclock nearly as well as the 975 motherboards. Also, I've been repeatedly warned that while the Bad Axe is really stable and capable of considerable overclocking that it requires at least a week to actually get a nice overclock because you have to inch it up a few mhz at a time when you are at the kind of high FSB that Conroes overclock to (if you try to just jump to 400mhz it will require a cmos clear) and when it doesn't like an OC it just crashes and forces you to start over. It is a very "ungraceful" overclocker, especially compared to the p5w dh deluxe which ultimately hits higher speeds so why bother with the Bad Axe.
 
I hear a good many of the BadAxe mobos die too when overclocking. One guy posted he was on his 5th BadAxe. If I remember correctly its mainly due to voltage increases during overclocking attempts. As was mentioned its not a graceful overclocker. One review I read said that it overclocks higher than the ASUS but the ASUS was more stable. Intel is supposed to have a BadAxe 2 coming out. I guess an improved model.
 
Board showed up. Sticker says 502. Don't have a CPU to test what's actually on there.

Google tells me that while BIOS chips from Asus are $5 for Americans, they're $35 for Canadians. Thinking about buying a Celeron.
 
I got my system together yesterday -

E6400, P5w-DH, FSU PSU, 1900xt, PQI 2x1g 667 DDR2.

Got all excited to fire it up, turn to power on, fans start, nothing else happens. Look into it a little, and Bios chip says 0502 - system won't post. 99.9% everthing is setup correctly. Haven't built system in a couple years, but it's not exactly rocket science. I did try removing the battery and resetting the cmos jumper, but that did nothing for me.

Have a new bios chip showing up today from asus (who actually charge shipping to make thier 'Core 2 Duo' ready boards actually work :/ )so will post when I get it. At least they made the chips socketable.

Here's to hoping - having WoW withdrawls. lol


-FC
 
Did you try that BIOS update CD from whatever that site was? Or is it useless due to the no POST problem?
 
The CD didn't work at all due to the posting issue. Comp turned on, no beep, nothing showed on the monitor. I am hoping this is typical with the bios issue. If it's not the bios, it might take some time for me to isolate the problem. 🙁

Can anyone else confirm this same problem with the 502 bios? I am assuming that is the typical 'no post' action - fans/power on, no beeps, nothing on screen.

There is no chance the processor will be harmed by that is there?
 
Originally posted by: VivienM
Board showed up. Sticker says 502. Don't have a CPU to test what's actually on there.

Google tells me that while BIOS chips from Asus are $5 for Americans, they're $35 for Canadians. Thinking about buying a Celeron.
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I hate to follow up to myself, but for any Canadians who may read this: I called up Asus, asked for BIOS dept, gave the lady my info, and they're sending a new chip. Didn't ask for $$$$.
 
Originally posted by: VivienM
Originally posted by: VivienM
Board showed up. Sticker says 502. Don't have a CPU to test what's actually on there.

Google tells me that while BIOS chips from Asus are $5 for Americans, they're $35 for Canadians. Thinking about buying a Celeron.
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I hate to follow up to myself, but for any Canadians who may read this: I called up Asus, asked for BIOS dept, gave the lady my info, and they're sending a new chip. Didn't ask for $$$$.
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I just called from the states and yes they are sending the chips out with free ground shipping and no the 0502 will not work with Conroe.
 
Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer

I just called from the states and yes they are sending the chips out with free ground shipping and no the 0502 will not work with Conroe.
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Interesting...

Did they just change their policy overnight when they realized that selling a flagship board that doesn't work with the flagship CPU it's advertised to work with was a BAD marketing move?
 
Ok, quick follow up. Went home for lunch and Fedex had dropped my bios chip off already. Took about 20 sec to pop the old one out and put the new one with the 0801 in. Powered on, and sure enough, posted right away. It read the chip properly, configured it as E6400.

So, for those with the 0502 bios, chances are you won't have luck (I have heard of people with the E6600 having some luck flashing bios if they reset CMOS) until you get another 775 proc and flash it, or get a new chip from Asus.

Can't wait to get home and get it running. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Fullcircle676
So, for those with the 0502 bios, chances are you won't have luck (I have heard of people with the E6600 having some luck flashing bios if they reset CMOS) until you get another 775 proc and flash it, or get a new chip from Asus.
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That makes me wonder something... could it be that Conroes are fine, but Allendales aren't?
 
FedEx just dropped off the BIOS chip here. I'm very impressed with how fast this was.

Now if I had my C2D... (and working RAM)
 
Originally posted by: Ecca Ecca
Does that CD Overclock3d gave work?!

Thanks
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I'm not sure what you are reffering to but if you can't post you can't do anything: you can't use a floppy, a CD, a Hard Drive, PCI card or manually type in the binary.
You have to either get something that will post or flash the BIOS in another system/get a new preflashed BIOS from ASUS.
 
Originally posted by: VivienM
Board showed up. Sticker says 502. Don't have a CPU to test what's actually on there.

Google tells me that while BIOS chips from Asus are $5 for Americans, they're $35 for Canadians. Thinking about buying a Celeron.
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Having a spare cpu in the closet, that's the same socket as your main system, is always a good idea. I'd personally pay $50-75 for a Celeron in a heartbeart, than give Asus $35 for a new BIOS chip. But, that's just me, and I'm an overclocker.

edit: Well, I should have read the thread completely before I posted that. Glad they didn't try to charge you for something that is that cheap, and required that little money to ship, though. I really is a good thing, having another cpu that's the same socket, though.
 
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: VivienM
Board showed up. Sticker says 502. Don't have a CPU to test what's actually on there.

Google tells me that while BIOS chips from Asus are $5 for Americans, they're $35 for Canadians. Thinking about buying a Celeron.
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Having a spare cpu in the closet, that's the same socket as your main system, is always a good idea. I'd personally pay $50-75 for a Celeron in a heartbeart, than give Asus $35 for a new BIOS chip. But, that's just me, and I'm an overclocker.

edit: Well, I should have read the thread completely before I posted that. Glad they didn't try to charge you for something that is that cheap, and required that little money to ship, though. I really is a good thing, having another cpu that's the same socket, though.
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Pretend I'm a noob, please... what exactly is the use of another CPU of the same socket, unless you're planning to OC so much that there's a serious risk of frying your main CPU?
 
I've been reading about BIOS no posting problem with the P5W DH, and how people have to pop in another P4 chip or get the free bios chip sent to them from ASUS ground shipping.


I'm planning on getting the ASUS P5B, since i dont need O.C. or wifi, can I assume my mobo will have the same problem?
 
I am confused here, that overclock3d site states that Asus said the boards WILL BOOT up with a core 2 and give an error message and u can just flash the bios from there yet thats not what people are saying.

Someone please clear this up for me.
 
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