ASUS P5B Deluxe Wi-fi or GIGABYTE 965P-DQ6

[PetrToman]

Hi guys,

I need to buy very quickly new MB for E6600 and Nvidia 7950GT. I refuse to wait any longer for nvidia 590 intel mb, and I want to have my MB compatible with kentsfield in the future. I dont want to spent money for Asus WS64 I think I wont need 4x16x PCI-E.

So thats why I want to choose between these two P5B or DQ6?

I was always an asus user, however, i didnt use lots of features offerd by asus.

Can you please help me with this decision, or post your experinece with these MBs.

Thannks a lot

Petr

 

[PetrToman]

no replies? please help me to choose the right one, i need to buy it till end of next week.

 

[hardwareking]

the P5B deluxe would be the better choice.gets higher FSB speeds.And the DQ6 has issues mounting 3rd party coolers which uses back plates cause of its crazy cool back plate.
All in all the P5B is the better choice.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Yep, P5B-Deluxe WiFi is the winner

 

[PetrToman]

2:0 thanks guys, do you also think I shoud consider 975 chipset?

 

[Madellga]

For the E6600 I would get the i975 chipset. At same FSB, the 975 is faster than the 965.
You don't need high FSB for the E6600 (x9 multi), as you are probably going to reach the CPU limit before the FSB.

Normally you can get between 3.0GHZ and 3.4 with the E6600 with mild VCore increase.
That's under 380FSB. To reach 3.6GHz (9x400) without higher voltages requires a bit of luck with the CPU, Mobo and Ram.

I'm running 1.375V for 3.4GHz, to reach 3.5GHz it needs 1.45V and to run Orthos for a few minutes at 3.6GHz it needs 1.50V, not really good for 24/7 under air cooling imo.

Don't believe also on the high o/c results, most have high voltages (most people don't mention it) and are normally only SuperPi stable, not really good for 24/7 usage. For that you need dual Prime95 or Orthos running for several hours.

For an E6600 or E6400, feasible speeds are between 3.0GHz and 3.4GHz. This is what most people get without extreme measures, cooling or über expensive DDR2 sticks.

I tried both the DQ6 and P5B, it is true that the DQ6 backplate makes installing 3rd party coolers a pain. The DQ6 was actually easy to set and fire, BIOS is friendly. I got same results with the P5B as with the DQ6, only the DQ6 would run Orthos longer than the P5B at the CPU limit, but it wouldn't matter as the speed was not usuable. The P5B bios is a bit more difficult to handle at first sight.
The P5B has an power down/up "fail safe" approach that turns off and on again your computer when you cold boot, restart or reset your computer. This was an issue for me, but others are OK with that.

If you want a suggestion for the moment, look into the AW9D Max or non Max version.
It has a lot of features, no backplate or power on/off issues. BIOS is very good also.
I'm quite happy with it.

The Asus P5W64 is worth a look, I'm also thinking of it.

And read a lot about the boards you are considering, check also the Anandtech forums and also
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59
See what people are getting and what most problems are.

Just don't believe on the advice from fanboys, who will recommend you anything despite existing issues.

PS: Fanboys didn't post here yet

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Madellga
For the E6600 I would get the i975 chipset. At same FSB, the 975 is faster than the 965.
You don't need high FSB for the E6600 (x9 multi), as you are probably going to reach the CPU limit before the FSB.

Normally you can get between 3.0GHZ and 3.4 with the E6600 with mild VCore increase.
That's under 380FSB. To reach 3.6GHz (9x400) without higher voltages requires a bit of luck with the CPU, Mobo and Ram.

I'm running 1.375V for 3.4GHz, to reach 3.5GHz it needs 1.45V and to run Orthos for a few minutes at 3.6GHz it needs 1.50V, not really good for 24/7 under air cooling imo.

Don't believe also on the high o/c results, most have high voltages (most people don't mention it) and are normally only SuperPi stable, not really good for 24/7 usage. For that you need dual Prime95 or Orthos running for several hours.

For an E6600 or E6400, feasible speeds are between 3.0GHz and 3.4GHz. This is what most people get without extreme measures, cooling or über expensive DDR2 sticks.

I tried both the DQ6 and P5B, it is true that the DQ6 backplate makes installing 3rd cooler a pain. The DQ6 was actually easy to set and fire, BIOS is friendly. I got same results with the P5B as with the DQ6, only the DQ6 would run Orthos longer than the P5B at the CPU limit, but it wouldn't matter as the speed was not usuable. The P5B bios is a bit more difficult to handle at first sight.
The P5B has an power down/up "fail safe" approach that turns off and on again your computer when you cold boot, restart or reset your computer. This was an issue for me, but others are OK with that.

If you want a suggestion for the moment, look into the AW9D Max or non Max version.
It has a lot of features, no backplate or power on/off issues. BIOS is very good also.
I'm quite happy with it.

The Asus P5W64 is worth a look, I'm also thinking of it.

And read a lot about the boards you are considering, check also the Anandtech forums and also
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59
See what people are getting and what most problems are.

Just don't believe on the advice from fanboys, which will recommend you anything despite existing issues.

Nice post until the "fanboy" comment came out man. There have only been two other people to post in this thread, that's me and hardwareking. Are we both fanboy's? A little unfair don't ya think?

As I said, it was a good post, went into detail that neither of us did. But please, in the future, don't throw around names.

 

[Madellga]

Hey Pc Surgeon, the fanboy comment is not directed at anyone here. I'm sorry if you feel that way, but please don't be fast on the gun and jump to conclusions.

What I meant is that some people sometimes just drop in the threads, will list all pros but will not mention any cons and will even negate them.

You will find this a lot at the video threads (ATIxNvidia comments), CPU (IntelxAMD) and sometimes at the mobo threads also.

 

[Skott]

Its always wise to look for confirmation of anyone giving you advice, even if we're 100% accurate its always best to double check what we're saying and why. By 'we' I mean people giving help/opinions to those posting questions. Anyway, if you are thinking about the P5B or the P5B Deluxe you might also want to check out the P5B-E. Its a 2nd revision mobo due out soon (I'm guessing October) and should have some improvements built into it.

 

[PetrToman]

Thanks guys, well I have read many reviews, tests, forums about these two boards and cause I need it quickly I have ordered P5B Deluxe. As I found out, I cannot make a mistake picking one of these two. My P5WD2-E Premium will stay in my girlfriend's PC I bought her another Vento 3600 but in green, cause she likes this color hihi I need to cut the budget a little bit, cause together with this mobo I will get also the new cpu, gpu, corsair DDR2, HDD for GF pc etc. heh...
..
another cash spent in pc industry swirl go ahead

 

[hardwareking]

Right now the P5B deluxe is getting the highest FSB speeds.And its similarly priced with the DQ6 and doesn't have the annoying back-plate.
The only thing good about the DQ6 would be the 12 phase VRM which would "supposedly" handle Quad-Core chips better.
But my vote is with the P5B Deluxe

 

[jhill1]

the asus 590 intel board is advertised on their website, so i bet you wont have to wait much longer

 

[PetrToman]

hi guys, thanks to all of you who told me to get P5B deluxe, this mobo is great. I really love it. AI suite is also cool. I have rebuild my old pc and made another vento for my girlfriend Anyway the new configuration really rocks. Thanks again. btw. Vento is really cool case ))