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Asus P4B533 a good mobo?

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Noriaki

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Asus P4B533 a good mobo?

I'm not very up to date on my Pentium 4 stuff (well I'm not very up to date on anything right now).

http://usa.asus.com/mb/socket478/p4b533/overview.htm

Is this a good board? My system is giving me serious issues...and right now I'm think I'm going to blame the motherboard....the IDE controller seemed to be going because all 4 of my IDE devices are giving me trouble...now my floppy drive is to...

My hollywood plus won't get along very well with something either....

I've hated Via for a long time....for some reason I made the mistake of not trusting my instincts and I bought a board with a 686B south...I'm not doing that again....Via can go **** themselves.

I do however have 2 perfectly good sticks of 2-2-2 PC2100 266DDR SDRAM that I'd like to continue using, so I'm looking at the i845E chipset....

What do you think of this board? Good? Bad? Ugly?
 
Great board.

P4B533-V if you want 3:4 memory ratios above 133MHz FSB.
 
3:4 memory timings?

Is that just for overclocking, because I'm not really into overclocking anymore....I'm looking for stability, and having my IDE devices function properly. I'm not all that interested in performance. Or does it have some function beyond OC?
 
Originally posted by: AndyHui
Allows running of FSB at 133, RAM at 166. Not essential.
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ooops my bad 😱 I thought it was RAM (3) : FSB (4). Not FSB (3) : RAM (4).

My ram is technically CAS2.5 PC2100. Runs fine at 2-2-2 DDR266...but I dunno if I really wanna push it to 166...

If I got a P4 1.7GHz (100Mhz QDR bus I think right?) would my RAM also be set to 100Mhz (200DDR) or could I run 100/133 (400/266) busses with the P4B533?

I guess that's why I wan the 3:4 right?
 
The P4B533 is my current favorite motherboard, although I haven't tried the P4B533-V yet.

Yes, you can run 3:4 (fsb=100:mem=133) on the P4B533.
 
Your current favourite board eh?

Well then how come you don't use it in your Rig? 😉

Thanks for the info on the bus speed 🙂
 
The P4B533 is an excellent board. I have it and it has worked smoothly from day one. With a 1.7 you can run at stock 100fsb. The memory will run 1:1 at PC1600 speeds. I'm not sure how well the 1.7 wil OC, and I know you said you aren't really interested in overclocking, but I have a 1.8A running on a 133 bus to bring it up to 2.4. The memory still runs 1:1 at PC2100 speed.

The P4B533-V has the improved memory controller and onboard graphics. The memory controller is a little more efficient and also allows for more memory dividers allowing you to run the memory either faster or slower than the CPU bus. There are both 4:3 and 3:4 dividers to choose from depending on whether you want to overclock the memory of the CPU.

Personally, I like the whole P4B533 family. The -E has the most features, the -V allows for the most overclocking and the stock board is the cheapest.
 
Your current favourite board eh? Well then how come you don't use it in your Rig? 😉
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He's got it in his older system - if I recall the order he put them together in. It's in the 2.2GHz Pentium 4 box. Look at the link in his sig. 🙂

I concur with the others. I put one machine together for a friend and I liked what little I saw of the P4B533. If I could justify the minor upgrade that it would be, I'd swap over my P4B266 board. 🙂
 
It is an excellent board. However, I think I like Gigabyte's board a tad more simply because of the dual BIOS feature. They are both pretty similar in terms of features and stability, minus the dual BIOS. So, no matter which way you go I think you will be pleased.
 
hahah damn you are right pm....guess I should read more carefully I only looked at the first rig.

He does have a P4B533 in the 2.2Ghz rig.
 
I got one too & it's a GREAT board,I had a P4B266-C before (good board too) but I prefer this one.

I put a P4 2.26 cpu in there & I have it running at 2720mhz on default voltage,I am very impresssed with this board.

Very stable board.


If I were you I would not even touch a 1.7ghz cpu but would get a 1.6A,those are pretty much guarantied to reach 2.1ghz with ease.
 
Originally posted by: Budman
I got one too & it's a GREAT board,I had a P4B266-C before (good board too) but I prefer this one.

I put a P4 2.26 cpu in there & I have it running at 2720mhz on default voltage,I am very impresssed with this board.

Very stable board.


If I were you I would not even touch a 1.7ghz cpu but would get a 1.6A,those are pretty much guarantied to reach 2.1ghz with ease.
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Not interested in overclocking...thanks for the info though.

A 1.7GHz P4 will be mroe than I need. Honestly, I don't even bother to run my Duron @ 1Ghz anymore. At 750 it has enough juice for everything I do. I'm replacing it because this board is a piece of s***. I am not buying another Via chipset, period. Via has given me no end of problems. I'm going back to Intel. I like AMD's CPUs just fine, but until someone produces a good Athlon/Duron chipset in quantity, I'm going back to Intel thank you.

Err..sorry for the rant...I'm just very irritated right now...

I appreciate the tip on the 1.6A...I'll think about that...my view on OCing might change later...

Also, what is the Gigabyte board that is equivilant to the P4B533? I've used Gigabyte before, they seemed pretty good...if it's a lot cheaper maybe I'll go with it....I'm kinda tempted to stay Asus because they haven't let me down yet....
 
Something to keep in mind in the 1.6A vs. 1.7 decision is that the "A" processors have 512K cache as opposed to 256K. So while the 1.6 is technically slower in clockspeed by 100MHz, with the extra cache it can eek out a little more speed than the 1.7.

And it overclocks nicely. So does the 1.8A. 😉

I'm not a big time overclocker, I prefer stability to max speed. But this is like the classic Celeron 300A@450 on a BH6.

The Gigabyte equivalent is the 8IEX series. Like the ASUS board there are a few variants.

GA-8IEX = ASUS P4B533 (i815e stock)
GA-8IEXP = ASUS P4B533-E (i815e with FireWire, LAN and RAID)
GA-8IGXP = ASUS P4B533-V (i815g)

The only one you can generally find is the 8IEXP. Anand rated it quite highly. I haven't used it myself, but it is feature-rich at a cheaper price than the ASUS.
 
Whether you overclock or not, get a Northwood. It has twice the L2 cache, .13u, and runs cooler. If you do decide to overclock, a very conservative 1.6A overclock would be 133 FSB, 2.13 GHz. This will be just as stable as running 1.6 GHz. Note that there is no 1.6 or 1.8 GHz specsheet. The Northwood specsheets start @ 2.0 GHz. The 1.6 and 1.8's are a sure thing to go to 2.0 and beyond. And yes, the P4B533 is a nice board.
 
Refresher...

I had been given (obviously false) information that all of Discovery's P4s were Northwoods. And the 1.7 is the cheapest one they have listed. Of course this is not the case since there is no 1.7A.

I've gone to a different supplier who has the 1.6A for slightly less than Discovery has the 1.7 nonA, and the 1.8A for a mere $15 (CAD, so about $10 USD) more.
They also have the Asus P4B533 for $82 (again CAD) less 🙂

So if I go new I'll get the 1.8A and P4B533 from them, for about $300US. I will definately get the NW though I had always intended to, I was just operating under an incorrect assumption. The new place (NCIX.com) lists clearly what's Northwood and what isn't.
 
Originally posted by: Noriaki
Refresher...


So if I go new I'll get the 1.8A and P4B533 from them, for about $300US. I will definately get the NW though I had always intended to, I was just operating under an incorrect assumption. The new place (NCIX.com) lists clearly what's Northwood and what isn't.
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How about 1.8A + P4S533 ? That's the combination I am thinking about lately. I really don't see the difference between P4S533 and P4B533 except $20+ price difference. And P4S533 is receiving overwelmingly positive reviews. Why is that? And, for extra $20, what do you get for P4B533 compared to P4S533?
 
If you go the P4B533 route, I would not recommend the -V. I own one and there is a significant issue with Corsair XMS memory atm. Of course, those running Samsung (or other manufacturers) seem to be okay.
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
And, for extra $20, what do you get for P4B533 compared to P4S533?
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Intel
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You were being sarcastic, right? I take it P4B533 is more expensive only because it has intel chipset, which isn't necessarily better than sis645dx, but has more "prestigious" brand name, is that correct?
 
Originally posted by: kornermi
Originally posted by: oldfart
And, for extra $20, what do you get for P4B533 compared to P4S533?
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Intel
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You were being sarcastic, right? I take it P4B533 is more expensive only because it has intel chipset, which isn't necessarily better than sis645dx, but has more "prestigious" brand name, is that correct?
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This isn't shoes or breakfast cereal, brand actually does make a difference. That's why the original poster is upgrading to begin with, to get rid of VIA.
While I haven't see any stability knocks on SIS, one cannot beat the performance/stability/compatibility of an Intel chipset imho. 🙂
Why go from VIA to another small market player in SIS when you can go straight to the guys who make the CPU?
 
You were being sarcastic, right? I take it P4B533 is more expensive only because it has intel chipset, which isn't necessarily better than sis645dx
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Not being sarcastic. The extra $20 gets you the great performance and stability of an Intel chipset. Money well spent.
 
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