:disgust: my a7v won't post after a BIOS update to revision 1009, a problem many of you probably have read about or even experienced. I have tried all suggestions i've found online, even got a new chip from badflah.com, and it still doesn't work. I guess this means my board is dead :disgust: i emailed asus over 2 weeks ago, no response, and calling them results in a person taking your number and saying they'll call back. anyone have any other ideas? can anyone explain how i buy a product from asus, use asus' BIOS update utility, use a file made by asus for the a7v, have it destroy the board, and then asus have no responsibility for this? i don't see how this is my fault, except i took the know risk of flashing the BIOS, but this problem with 1009 is a load of crap. Why should i have to spend $90 for a new board....:disgust:
asus a7v bios 1009
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Did the chip you got from Badflash.com have the 1009 BIOS file on it, or did it have an earlier version?
So, you get NO POST at all? When you try turning it on, does cpu fan come on? Do you get any sort of beeps? Did you try clearing CMOS by shorting the two solder points or removing the battery? How about setting all jumpers to default positions and try again..Sorry to see this happening to ya. I haven't had an A7V for a while, but am currently using an A7V133.
i'm runnin the av7133 too... I finnally have "matured" to the point where i will not flash the bios unless its totally needed. In the past I'd see a new ver and i instantly wanted to upgrade to it. I too laid a board to rest. Actually RMA-ed it to asus.
I havent heard anbody else's plee's for help yet.. when was the 1009 ver released?
I havent heard anbody else's plee's for help yet.. when was the 1009 ver released?
gonzo, i did those things...... the 1009 BIOS was released i beileve early to mid november, but i checked asus' site today, and they have a new layout, and it also lists BIOS revision 1006 and 1007, the other day they had 1008 and 1009, kind of strange.....
I finnally have "matured" to the point where i will not flash the bios unless its totally needed.
Ditto here..I flashed my A7V133 to rev.1005 and that cleared up some weird bugs I was having and haven't touched it since.
Nick, I really don't know what else to say. Maybe try ASUS support again?
Ditto here..I flashed my A7V133 to rev.1005 and that cleared up some weird bugs I was having and haven't touched it since.
Nick, I really don't know what else to say. Maybe try ASUS support again?
Well, I just joined the party. Upgraded to 1009, and now it won't boot (the fans go on, but no input goes to my monitor). I blame it on Asus' poor English!! First I was confused because the site said use FLASH or PFLASH, but my manual says AFLASH, so I go with my manual since I used AFLASH before and how could my manual be wrong. So I go along, I think it updates and I reboot, and nothing happens. Now that I read the instructions for PFLASH, it says if it didn't update correctly, press Y to try again. It didn't show an error, but I did think it was wierd that it showed the BIOS rev I had before (1005B). Grrr!!
Its late and I don't know what I should do now. What is this about the new chip? I do happen to have an extra A7V board handy, I can replace it?
Its late and I don't know what I should do now. What is this about the new chip? I do happen to have an extra A7V board handy, I can replace it?
I've blindly jumped into this boat. Attempted to flash 1009 and have the same exact problems as Nick and Lamplighter. Came to Anandtech looking for help. The ASUS website says they'll send a new BIOS for $25 if you send them a check (no credit cards). I was going to try this but is seems that replacing the bios doesn't solve the problem either (Nick5324).
I'd like to hear the results of plugging the bios from your second A7V board Lamplighter (if you did that). Does it solve your problem?
I'd like to hear the results of plugging the bios from your second A7V board Lamplighter (if you did that). Does it solve your problem?
OK I can fix you up... I have an A7Pro at work, and as most people know, it's the same board, minus a Promise controller (actually came AFTER A7V)
I flashed to 1009 and the computer would not post... (I am on it now, though!) All you have to do, is (I'm guessing it's on jumperfree mode) set it to jumper mode, I had to set a 9x multiplier and 100FSB for my Athlon 900 and it booted right up after that, swear to god that's the only fix i know of right now, once it posts again, if you still want to use jumperfree, re-flash using your old BIOS, shut down, set to Jumperfree mode and bootup again, IT WILL WORK.
Good luck.
I flashed to 1009 and the computer would not post... (I am on it now, though!) All you have to do, is (I'm guessing it's on jumperfree mode) set it to jumper mode, I had to set a 9x multiplier and 100FSB for my Athlon 900 and it booted right up after that, swear to god that's the only fix i know of right now, once it posts again, if you still want to use jumperfree, re-flash using your old BIOS, shut down, set to Jumperfree mode and bootup again, IT WILL WORK.
Good luck.
I flashed to 1009 as well and found it to be unstable. Flashed back to 1008 and am happy with that - my final flash on the A7V before I dispose of it or give it away as an Christmas gift..
It's good to hear that some folks are able to flash either version.
I'd like to just get back to 1007. Tried shorting the pins and pulling the battery to clear cmos....no help. Tried Yield's suggestion of changing to jumper mode, which required setting the cpu frequency and multiple (page 22/23 in my book)....still no help.
Looks like my only option is to get a new bios chip. :disgust:
BTW, I used the ASUS LiveUpdate V3.28.03 for Windows 9X/ ME/ 2000/ NT4.0.
utility to do the bios update (as opposed to the aflash DOS utility).
I got an error right at the very end, can't remember the verbage. Windows 98 SE presented the blue screen of death when trying to get back to ASUS website to look for help. Never recovered!!!
Hope Lamplighter gets back on soon and lets us know if an 'official' replacement bios chip solves this problem.
I'd like to just get back to 1007. Tried shorting the pins and pulling the battery to clear cmos....no help. Tried Yield's suggestion of changing to jumper mode, which required setting the cpu frequency and multiple (page 22/23 in my book)....still no help.
Looks like my only option is to get a new bios chip. :disgust:
BTW, I used the ASUS LiveUpdate V3.28.03 for Windows 9X/ ME/ 2000/ NT4.0.
utility to do the bios update (as opposed to the aflash DOS utility).
I got an error right at the very end, can't remember the verbage. Windows 98 SE presented the blue screen of death when trying to get back to ASUS website to look for help. Never recovered!!!
Hope Lamplighter gets back on soon and lets us know if an 'official' replacement bios chip solves this problem.
<< Hope Lamplighter gets back on soon and lets us know if an 'official' replacement bios chip solves this problem. >>
Hey, I've never replaced a bios chip before, but according to http://www.badflash.com/findbios.htm it looks like I should get a tool from Radioshack to properly remove it?
Can I get a link on how to "Tried shorting the pins and pulling the battery to clear cmos". I am already on JumperMode but I suppose I should try setting everything to default as Gonzo suggests.
You can gently pry it up, a little at a time, from both ends using a thin flatblade screwdriver. The goal is to not bend or damage the pins. I think the tool they are referring to is similar to a big pair of tweezers that allows you to grab both ends of the chip and lift it straight off (although I think you'd still have to wiggle it a bit).
This tool wouldn't be used to install it, that would be done by hand.
Do what you feel comfortable with, I certainly don't want you pissed
at me.
The real danger is putting the chip in. The pins can 'fold up' if you're not careful to make sure they are all lined up and started in their slots. Do you have an ESD wristband? You should definitely use one for this operation. ESD=ElectroStatic Discharge. It puts you at the same ground potential as your computer and eliminates a static discharge from causing more problems.
Keep us posted! I'm trying to get ASUS to send me a new BIOS, waiting for a callback
This tool wouldn't be used to install it, that would be done by hand.
Do what you feel comfortable with, I certainly don't want you pissed
at me.
The real danger is putting the chip in. The pins can 'fold up' if you're not careful to make sure they are all lined up and started in their slots. Do you have an ESD wristband? You should definitely use one for this operation. ESD=ElectroStatic Discharge. It puts you at the same ground potential as your computer and eliminates a static discharge from causing more problems.
Keep us posted! I'm trying to get ASUS to send me a new BIOS, waiting for a callback
to short the pins, look along the edge of the board by the battery. You'll see a white box with 2 solder points in it(not pins). Under the box, stamped on the board is Clear CMOS and CLRTC. Short the 2 solder points together. It is on page 14 of A7V book if you have one.
I have seen numerous people advise (incl. me) NOT TO USE THE LIVE UPDATE but yet some still take the adventure. Too little too late now but make sure you do never do that again..
Yes, I've already severly punished myself for using Live Update instead of aflash. But, I'm not entirely sure that method is what caused this problem. Lamplighter indicates he used aflash and has the same problem.
I just got off the phone with ASUS. They took my credit card number (even though their website FAQ says they won't) and will send me a new bios chip via us mail ($25 total). In a week or so I'll let you all know if it fixed the problem.
I checked badflash.com, same basic options for roughly the same price.
I also called around to a few pc shops and found one here in Denver, CO. (PC City) that said they could reflash my bios for me. They wanted me to bring my computer in and charge between $50-$90 to do it. I opted to wait for the 'official' one from ASUS.
What have I learned from all this? Always check the Anandtech forums BEFORE DOING ANYTHING to my pc. If I'd read about all the problems people are having flashing the A7V, I wouldn't have even attempted going to 1009.
I checked badflash.com, same basic options for roughly the same price.
I also called around to a few pc shops and found one here in Denver, CO. (PC City) that said they could reflash my bios for me. They wanted me to bring my computer in and charge between $50-$90 to do it. I opted to wait for the 'official' one from ASUS.
What have I learned from all this? Always check the Anandtech forums BEFORE DOING ANYTHING to my pc. If I'd read about all the problems people are having flashing the A7V, I wouldn't have even attempted going to 1009.
Setting to jumper mode worked like a charm for me... the system works just dandy right now since being put into Jumper Mode, I'm sorry for those of you who couldn't get that to work, I know that trick has worked on more than just my system, I am surprised you had no luck.. 
I do believe after finding this out, that there IS a way to get your boards back up and running... try some of the Asus mobo forums like the one that was at cusl2c.com (dunno if it's still there) they had/have lots of help in that forum though!
EDIT: one more thing to add:
<< Tried Yield's suggestion of changing to jumper mode, which required setting the cpu frequency and multiple (page 22/23 in my book)....still no help. >>
Did you set the jumper JEN to be used on Jumper Mode as opposed to Jumper Free? you HAVE to do that.. it won't work if you just set the dipswitches.
Good luck to all !!!
I do believe after finding this out, that there IS a way to get your boards back up and running... try some of the Asus mobo forums like the one that was at cusl2c.com (dunno if it's still there) they had/have lots of help in that forum though!
EDIT: one more thing to add:
<< Tried Yield's suggestion of changing to jumper mode, which required setting the cpu frequency and multiple (page 22/23 in my book)....still no help. >>
Did you set the jumper JEN to be used on Jumper Mode as opposed to Jumper Free? you HAVE to do that.. it won't work if you just set the dipswitches.
Good luck to all !!!
Even though the symptoms seem the same. It seems the solution isn't.
I did move the JEN jumper to enable Jumper mode btw. When I spoke to
the ASUS BIOS Tech support guy (Ritendra) and explained that I'd done the things suggested here. He pretty much agreed that if those things didn't solve the problem the BIOS needed replacement - FWIW. In the very first append, NICK5324 replaced his bios and still has the problem. Unless he got a bad one from badflash.com, he's looking at a new MB for a fix.
The whole problem seems to lie in the fact that the diskette drive and display adapter need the motherboard bios to work. In other forums I have seen suggestions that if you had adapters for these devices with its own BIOS you'd be able to reflash it yourself. Unfortunately, I don't have either and don't even know if such things exist for PCI.
The CD light does come on. Anyone know if burning a CD with the aflash utility and the .awd file would work???
I did move the JEN jumper to enable Jumper mode btw. When I spoke to
the ASUS BIOS Tech support guy (Ritendra) and explained that I'd done the things suggested here. He pretty much agreed that if those things didn't solve the problem the BIOS needed replacement - FWIW. In the very first append, NICK5324 replaced his bios and still has the problem. Unless he got a bad one from badflash.com, he's looking at a new MB for a fix.
The whole problem seems to lie in the fact that the diskette drive and display adapter need the motherboard bios to work. In other forums I have seen suggestions that if you had adapters for these devices with its own BIOS you'd be able to reflash it yourself. Unfortunately, I don't have either and don't even know if such things exist for PCI.
The CD light does come on. Anyone know if burning a CD with the aflash utility and the .awd file would work???
I had a couple of similar experiences with my A7V133. I had to fdisk and reinstall a few times after trying twice to flash to a newer BIOS, even though the flash procedure was reported as successful both times. I ended up having to flash back to an older BIOS. I haven't trusted this board since. It has been one of the quirkiest boards I have ever owned. I am looking forward to upgrading to an Epox 8KHA+. I am not overly impressed with Asus products, and their tech support is non-existent. Check out their support forums on their web site. OMG, what an embarrassment, its like they went out of business and the forums were inadvertantly left on line. IMHO, paying a premium for Asus products is pointless.
After reading for quite a while I decided I was ready to start trying stuff. The first thing I tried was changing from Jumper Mode to JumperFree Mode... and it worked!!! I am sure lucky. Now I'm not sure what I should do. I was so happy I missed seeing what BIOS version it was at startup, but I assume it was 1005b which I had before. What do I do now? If I do nothing will it be fine, or should I flash to a different version (1008, or I saw on asusboards.com people talking about 1009 tweaked and 1011).
Although I'm not done yet, thanks for all the help, and good luck Barny.
Although I'm not done yet, thanks for all the help, and good luck Barny.
Lamplighter,
If your still feeling brave enough to reflash your BIOS, I would go with 1008 at this point. I have used every BIOS on the A7V since the original 1003, and both 1007 and 1008 have been very very stable.
I downloaded 1009 just after it became available, but never flashed it... After having read so many problems associated with it, I am glad I didn't.
Dave
PS: I would also use the DOS based AFLASH (or whatever its called) over the windows Liveupdate utility.
If your still feeling brave enough to reflash your BIOS, I would go with 1008 at this point. I have used every BIOS on the A7V since the original 1003, and both 1007 and 1008 have been very very stable.
I downloaded 1009 just after it became available, but never flashed it... After having read so many problems associated with it, I am glad I didn't.
Dave
PS: I would also use the DOS based AFLASH (or whatever its called) over the windows Liveupdate utility.
Lamplighter, if I were in your shoes (and I wish I were) I'd leave it alone and see how your system performs. What was your motivation to install a new bios anyway? I just wanted to bring everything current.
But then, you do have an extra A7V. So you are in a position to take some risks if you want to.
Also, you might check the ASUS website and find out what improvements and fixes are delivered with the newer BIOS releases, then decide.
In your first append you stated that you never saw any errors. My udpate did give a message saying the update had failed and I'd used the Live Update process where you used the aflash utility.
Good Luck!
But then, you do have an extra A7V. So you are in a position to take some risks if you want to.
Also, you might check the ASUS website and find out what improvements and fixes are delivered with the newer BIOS releases, then decide.
In your first append you stated that you never saw any errors. My udpate did give a message saying the update had failed and I'd used the Live Update process where you used the aflash utility.
Good Luck!
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