Asus 5870 2gb Matrix the NEW loudest card.

[Daedalus685]

People try and use noise as a way to discredit 480. It is going to sell out, life will go on, and nV will still hold the marketshare.

Well... I think the power consumption is far higher on folks hit list... But yes, it will sell out... but so did pet rocks once upon a time... the ability to sell a product to people, and the quality of said product are not always related.

 

[konakona]

Well... I think the power consumption is far higher on folks hit list... But yes, it will sell out... but so did pet rocks once upon a time... the ability to sell a product to people, and the quality of said product are not always related.

I think those that do have better PSUs are not in so much worry. I suspect many do when they are considering a GPU of this caliber and price tag, but I could be wrong.

 

[Daedalus685]

I think those that do have better PSUs are not in so much worry. I suspect many do when they are considering a GPU of this caliber and price tag, but I could be wrong.

Well... I can only speak for myself but the price of the PSU is insignificant compared to the fact that it is still using that power and thus creating that much heat. I wouldn't be worried about supplying it with power... mind you I'm very enthralled by the elegance of power efficiency (though I still require the performance.. always a trade...)... I'm probably not in the majority.

 

[cbn]

Well... I can only speak for myself but the price of the PSU is insignificant compared to the fact that it is still using that power and thus creating that much heat. I wouldn't be worried about supplying it with power... mind you I'm very enthralled by the elegance of power efficiency (though I still require the performance.. always a trade...)... I'm probably not in the majority.

How quiet are the larger watt PSUs?

Even if a manufacturer manages to tame the noise of a 300 watt Video card that doesn't mean the PSU fan couldn't make a lot of noise right?

 

[Daedalus685]

How quiet are the larger watt PSUs?

Even if a manufacturer manages to tame the noise of a 300 watt Video card that doesn't mean the PSU fan couldn't make a lot of noise right?

I've never had a problem with them, My 800W is the quietest component in the system. I'm sure they get loud but most if not all have 120m or larger fans now a days, these are nowhere near as loud as the buggers on a GPU.

 

[konakona]

my TX850 is quiet

I am no PSU guru, but higher rated PSUs get less hot at the same load so they tend to be quieter. Most PSUs with a thermally controlled fan are quiet until temperature reaches a threshold, and lower wattage PSUs get there with less total load.

 

[cbn]

I've never had a problem with them, My 800W is the quietest component in the system. I'm sure they get loud but most if not all have 120m or larger fans now a days, these are nowhere near as loud as the buggers on a GPU.

What kind of load are you running through that 800 watt?

Could adding a couple of Fermis noticeably increase the noise level of a PSU?

P.S. Do some PSUs allow the user to swap in something like a Scythe Gentle Typhoon to help compensate if necessary?

 

[Daedalus685]

What kind of load are you running through that PSU?

Could adding a couple of Fermis noticeably increase the noise levels of a PSU?

It 'could' though I'm not sure what the fan profile on the thing is... I've never heard it ramp up over the other fans anyway... if it does at all it would be insignificant.

I'm running about 500-600W at the plug on mine.


I've never seen a PSU that allows customization.. though they all use pretty standard fans, but opening them would void the warranty. The PSU is the one component I'd never be willing to void the warranty on. PCPC/OCZ just have too nice of a swap policy.

 

[ronnn]

So if amd makes a card that is too loud, this makes the 480 quieter? I really don't get the fan logic sometimes. Dumb thread.

 

[konakona]

What kind of load are you running through that 800 watt?

Could adding a couple of Fermis noticeably increase the noise level of a PSU?

P.S. Do some PSUs allow the user to swap in something like a Scythe Gentle Typhoon to help compensate if necessary?

I have done it in the past with cheaper PSUs in the past, but that was all manual - opening the case up and cutting out the pins and taping them back together. You lose the thermal throttling ability at that, wouldn't do it again; better PSUs I purchased later on have been very quiet.

 

[konakona]

So if amd makes a card that is too loud, this makes the 480 quieter? I really don't get the fan logic sometimes. Dumb thread.

well I think he was expecting people to turn around and say noise ain't important any more. not me, never.

 

[RussianSensation]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4890-roundup_6.html#sect0

4890 was a lot cooler than you are thinking.

Ya that's why I picked it over 4870 last summer.

BTW, in regard to that 5870 Matrix card, anyone can increase the fan speed of their videocard to make it louder. The result is a change in temperatures of course (Matrix is cooler than the stock 5870). As has been mentioned you can just lower the fan speed to match 5870s temperatures and surely it will be a lot quieter than the GTX480.

Here is what happens if you change the fan speed from 23% at idle (inaudible) to 50% at idle (loud) on a less hot 4890:

23% fan speed = 57*C (can't hear it)

50% fan speed - 40*C (can't live with it :thumbsdown

I am pretty sure NV isn't idling at <30% fan speed on a GTX480...

 

[pmv]

While its interesting to go on a search for "Loudest Card Ever", it doesn't change the fact that the GTX480 is ridiculously loud. I like my Palit 8800GT party because it has such a quiet (non stock) cooler and modest power demands. At the time it was possible to get both that and great performance, now the only card comparable in those terms would seem to be a VaporX 5770, which is far from a top performer. It seems the future is going to be increasingly noisy. Perhaps super-long video, keyboard and mouse cables are the answer, so one can put the PC in another room from the one that you use it in. Or perhaps in a sound-proofed shed at the far end of your garden?

Of course you'd have to factor in the cost of 'house with garden' and 'sound proofed purpose-built facility' into the cost of the rig, but, er, you guys are "enthusiasts", right? Could probably also do awesome water cooling with garden-sized radiator.

 

[at80eighty]

excellent work happy medium. now im sure everyone will drop their plans for ATI cards & flock to Nvidia's shores and soon Green shall rise again. Citius, Altius, Fortius.

 

[3DVagabond]

Damn! Read the revue. They really don't have too much good to say about The gtx-470/480.

These two new GeForces draw more power, generate more heat and noise, and have higher price tags than the closest competing Radeons, but they're not substantially faster at running current games. For many, that will be the brutal bottom line on the GeForce GTX 470 and 480. Given the complexity and the rich feature sets of modern graphics processors, that hardly seems fair, but the GF100 is facing formidable competition that made it to market first and is clearly more efficient in pretty much every way that matters.

This is just from the conclusion. The entire revue isn't any more positive. These cards really suck, overall. :\

 

[Meghan54]

These numbers seem very suspect. Many other reviews have gotten the 480 as 60 db and above.

There's quite an easy way to make dBa numbers appear as almost any reading you want. You want a loud "thing" to appear quieter than it really is? Just normalize the dBa meter to the ambient noise, essentially starting your 0dBa level at whatever ambient is, like 24dBa. So you move the floor upward, so a reading of 45dBa is actually much higher in reality.

 

[Madcatatlas]

So if amd makes a card that is too loud, this makes the 480 quieter? I really don't get the fan logic sometimes. Dumb thread.

Thank you for cutting trough the crap and asking the real question.
+1

Now if it WAS AMD and not some special OC edition custom crap, we could have actually blamed someone..:hmm:

 

[Kenmitch]

I hear ya bro, pardon the pun.
My 5750 is fairly loud at 70%.
I leave it at ~ 50%

Just stating a fact. When I was testing the card for overclock settings I was playing around with the fan speed to see what diff it makes on the temps. Wasn't much help with anything above 50% so that is also what I went with during testing. Any higher and yes the temps do go down but the noise is unbearable for me.

In my system anything above 35% overcomes the stock case fans which cool my rad's.

 

[reallyscrued]

Well, I have a JBL 7.1 surround system with dual 10 inch subs hooked to a Marantz 1000 watt amp for gaming. And my mommy don't live here,thank god.

I would say its the equivelent of trying to talk over someone. Not yelling!

Yeah, because just cuz you own a JBL sound system, you automatically know how the decibel scale works?

Basically what this thread is in a nutshell:

SPECIALY COOLER on a SPECIALTY version of the 5870 is louder than the stock GTX...maybe.

 

[SolidSnake42]

It will never beat the 5800 Ultra "Lawnmower".

 

[blanketyblank]

You know I don't understand why no one considers PSU noise in with these conversations.
In other words what is the quietest PSU that could possibly support a 480 or 470 vs. the quietest PSU that would support a 5870 or 5850. The most important factor to me in sound is idle noise and medium load like playing a movie, and the PSU plays a big part of that unless it is drowned out by the GPU fan.

Thus what I want to know is what do these cards sound like when playing a bluray, and if they aren't that loud what is the minimum PSU required to run them and the power draw on it when doing these more moderate tasks. I know these aren't designed for htpc usage, but I like building systems that can do everything well. Of course I realize a 470 or 480 use more power, but what's the minimum PSU that can be used with them and for just video usage does the draw keep the PSU fan at high or idle settings?

 

[Madcatatlas]

I reckon, from all these reviews that they mention the highest/loudest noise source and that in 99&#37; cases its the GPU fan that is responsible.

The only other source of noise i can think of that could be higher is the CPU, but those are usually big suckers with low rpm