Assuming that God exists...

[Aimster]

80% of Americans are Christians seems a bit high..

90% of the people on this forum might be American, but that doesn't mean they = Christian. I think 50% of the people on this forum dont even have a religion.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: glen
The thread asks us to assume God exists.
No where does it mention assume a Christian God, so why do so many folks assume that is what is ment?

What did you think of when you read it?

What I thought was that given only the assumption that God exists, you really don't have much else to work with. The Judeo-Christian concept of God would have been a second assumption.

 

[ufs]

Originally posted by: americangigolo
Well of course the Christian religion is the only right one, all the others are fake and will lead you straight to hell.

doest every religion say that?

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

 

[Danman]

Watch South Park.




*runs away*

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: glen
The thread asks us to assume God exists.
No where does it mention assume a Christian God, so why do so many folks assume that is what is ment?

What did you think of when you read it?

What did I think of?

Only the most general idea of a "prime mover."

I certainly did not think of a god of any specific religion such as Egyptian, Aztec, Hindu, Christian, Jedi, etc...
If someone says, "Assume a shoe exists!" why would anyone assume it to be a Converse Hightop, and then proceed to say that Convese High Tops don't exist, or are a pain in the ass, or Nikes are better, or Asics are softer, or Child Labor sucks, or you don't have to worship the shoes if you don't have to, or Nike salesmen are pushy, or are for morrons, etc...

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: glen
The thread asks us to assume God exists.
No where does it mention assume a Christian God, so why do so many folks assume that is what is ment?

What did you think of when you read it?

What did I think of?

Only the most general idea of a "prime mover."

I certainly did not think of a god of any specific religion such as Egyptian, Aztec, Hindu, Christian, Jedi, etc...
If someone says, "Assume a shoe exists!" why would anyone assume it to be a Converse Hightop, and then proceed to say that Convese High Tops don't exist, or are a pain in the ass, or Nikes are better, or Asics are softer, or Child Labor sucks, or you don't have to worship the shoes if you don't have to, or Nike salesmen are pushy, or are for morrons, etc...

Because G-d isn't a shoe... Or any other physical object for that matter. See my previous post. There is only one true G-d and He is the G-d of the Bible. Argue if you like, it won't do any good.

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: glen
The thread asks us to assume God exists.
No where does it mention assume a Christian God, so why do so many folks assume that is what is ment?

What did you think of when you read it?

What did I think of?

Only the most general idea of a "prime mover."

I certainly did not think of a god of any specific religion such as Egyptian, Aztec, Hindu, Christian, Jedi, etc...
If someone says, "Assume a shoe exists!" why would anyone assume it to be a Converse Hightop, and then proceed to say that Convese High Tops don't exist, or are a pain in the ass, or Nikes are better, or Asics are softer, or Child Labor sucks, or you don't have to worship the shoes if you don't have to, or Nike salesmen are pushy, or are for morrons, etc...

Because G-d isn't a shoe... Or any other physical object for that matter. See my previous post. There is only one true G-d and He is the G-d of the Bible. Argue if you like, it won't do any good.

Absolutely not.
Even if the Christian God is the one true God, that changes nothing in the supposition, "Assuming God exists," which DOES NOT specify any particular God. If your God is real, you should not fear the truth or hypothetical discourse about God's existance or non-existance, as this will only lead to revealing God.

 

[nan0bug]

I thought everyone knew that God is a dead ringer for Alanis Morisette

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This statement does NOT deny the existence of other gods, it just states that no other god should be placed before the God of the Bible. Of course, the phrase "before me" might be open to debate, because it lacks specificity.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: glen
The thread asks us to assume God exists.
No where does it mention assume a Christian God, so why do so many folks assume that is what is ment?

What did you think of when you read it?

What did I think of?

Only the most general idea of a "prime mover."

I certainly did not think of a god of any specific religion such as Egyptian, Aztec, Hindu, Christian, Jedi, etc...
If someone says, "Assume a shoe exists!" why would anyone assume it to be a Converse Hightop, and then proceed to say that Convese High Tops don't exist, or are a pain in the ass, or Nikes are better, or Asics are softer, or Child Labor sucks, or you don't have to worship the shoes if you don't have to, or Nike salesmen are pushy, or are for morrons, etc...

Because G-d isn't a shoe... Or any other physical object for that matter. See my previous post. There is only one true G-d and He is the G-d of the Bible. Argue if you like, it won't do any good.

Absolutely not.
Even if the Christian God is the one true God, that changes nothing in the supposition, "Assuming God exists," which DOES NOT specify any particular God. If your God is real, you should not fear the truth or hypothetical discourse about God's existance or non-existance, as this will only lead to revealing God.

Let's see. We're all speaking English here, right? The predominant religion of English-speaking peoples is Christianity and denominations thereof. The name "G-d" (capitalized 'G' to show respect, G-d not being in quotation marks in the question) is historically known to be the name of the G-d of the Bible. Did you think he was referring to Buddha? I don't fear discussion about G-d, you non-believers can discuss G-d all you like. Your assertions that He doesn't exist or that He isn't the true G-d don't sway my opinion, however.
Anyway, it's late and I've got to go to bed now - school tomorrow. I'll return sometime tomorrow afternoon/night to see what lovely flames you've written me G-night all! And G-dbless

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This statement does NOT deny the existence of other gods, it just states that no other god should be placed before the God of the Bible. Of course, the phrase "before me" might be open to debate, because it lacks specificity.

If you'll notice the word "god" does not have a capitalized 'G'. This implies manmade gods, i.e. money, politicians/leaders, false pagan deities, etc. This is one of the many subtleties of the English language...

 

[EXman]

OMG do a search already

 

[her209]

God's most common form is a penis or dildo.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This statement does NOT deny the existence of other gods, it just states that no other god should be placed before the God of the Bible. Of course, the phrase "before me" might be open to debate, because it lacks specificity.

If you'll notice the word "god" does not have a capitalized 'G'. This implies manmade gods, i.e. money, politicians/leaders, false pagan deities, etc. This is one of the many subtleties of the English language...

Given that "god" isn't defined, I think you're making another assumption there (which could very well be false.)

 

[Walleye]

keiko told me this:

"<Keiko> I estimate that God is somewhere near Turku, Lansi-Suomen Laani, Finland (GMT +02:00).||"


apparently god is finnish...

 

[Bv3]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
God's a fat chick.

No way, God is a hottie.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: her209
God's most common form is a penis or dildo.

This is correct. Assuming your god is Satan. Why is it so popular to mock the word of the L-rd? Does it give you more self-esteem? Does it make you feel "cool"?

 

[glen]

Flyermax2k3,
Everyone from St. Augustine to C.S. Lewis understands the theological and spiritual relevance and benefit from philosophical discussions about God, gods, etc.. and their existence or "proof." If God exists to you, but you can't talk about him with out resorting to dogma, you have limited your ability to spread the word, or Evangelize. To be a good evangelist, you must be a competent philosopher. You certainly are not winning people over to you side by saying, it is true because the Bible says so. That is no different that someoen of another religion trying to convert you by sayign thier holy book say somethign else. A non-believer, by definition, does nto accept the Bible, so how are you to convert them by refering to the Bible? It is circular. The most effective Evangelism is NOT dogmatic.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This statement does NOT deny the existence of other gods, it just states that no other god should be placed before the God of the Bible. Of course, the phrase "before me" might be open to debate, because it lacks specificity.

If you'll notice the word "god" does not have a capitalized 'G'. This implies manmade gods, i.e. money, politicians/leaders, false pagan deities, etc. This is one of the many subtleties of the English language...

Given that "god" isn't defined, I think you're making another assumption there (which could very well be false.)

Well, I'm sorry you don't speak English as well as I do. If you can't tell the difference between the common word "god/gods" and the name of the Christian G-d, you should probably enroll in a remedial English course at your local community college.

 

[dopcombo]

hmm.....

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[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: glen
Flyermax2k3,
Everyone from St. Augustine to C.S. Lewis understands the theological and spiritual relevance and benefit from philosophical discussions about God, gods, etc.. and their existence or "proof." If God exists to you, but you can't talk about him with out resorting to dogma, you have limited your ability to spread the word, or Evangelize. To be a good evangelist, you must be a competent philosopher. You certainly are not winning people over to you side by saying, it is true because the Bible says so. That is no different that someoen of another religion trying to convert you by sayign thier holy book say somethign else. A non-believer, by definition, does nto accept the Bible, so how are you to convert them by refering to the Bible? It is circular. The most effective Evangelism is NOT dogmatic.

While your statement is correct in regards to evangelism, nowhere in this thread have I claimed to be an evangelist or that I am trying to convert anyone. I'm simply stating the truth as I know it to be. Others have their own truths. It's up to you to find out which version of the truth is the correct one. I've already found mine.
Besides, the intarweb is not the best place to try to convert people... I do my evangelical work in person.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: her209
God's most common form is a penis or dildo.

This is correct. Assuming your god is Satan. Why is it so popular to mock the word of the L-rd? Does it give you more self-esteem? Does it make you feel "cool"?

He is not my Lord.

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Not another one of these...
Perhaps this will help answer your question: in the Bible it says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them..." To place an image above G-d is to replace G-d Himself with a physical object. G-d strictly prohibits this. Answer your question?

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This statement does NOT deny the existence of other gods, it just states that no other god should be placed before the God of the Bible. Of course, the phrase "before me" might be open to debate, because it lacks specificity.

If you'll notice the word "god" does not have a capitalized 'G'. This implies manmade gods, i.e. money, politicians/leaders, false pagan deities, etc. This is one of the many subtleties of the English language...

At your chance to Witness and Evangelize, you have sent this poor soul to coummunity college, and likely his eternal damnation. Not becasue you have a lake of personal faith, but because you are looking to Sophestry, when you need to be looking towards the Christ. Agnus Dei!

Given that "god" isn't defined, I think you're making another assumption there (which could very well be false.)

Well, I'm sorry you don't speak English as well as I do. If you can't tell the difference between the common word "god/gods" and the name of the Christian G-d, you should probably enroll in a remedial English course at your local community college.

At your chance to Witness and Evangelize, you have sent this person to community college, and likely his eternal damnation. You have turned to Sophestry instead of the Christ. Agnus Dei!

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: her209
God's most common form is a penis or dildo.

This is correct. Assuming your god is Satan. Why is it so popular to mock the word of the L-rd? Does it give you more self-esteem? Does it make you feel "cool"?

He is not my Lord.

Your comments lead me to believe otherwise. Regardless of whether or not you openly acknowledge Satan as your lord, he still can be. I don't know what's in your heart but G-d does. Would He say you serve Him - or Satan?
Ok, going to bed now, really. Sleepy time, class tomorrow.