assault weapon ban: wonderful woman talks to panel in DC

[OutHouse]

crying shame her parents were killed, they raised a awesome woman.

http://unitedstates.fm/video/GunControlWitness.wmv

 

[Canai]

marked for later.

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: Canai
marked for later.

ditto.

Anyone want to summarize her position?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Is this the lady from Texas? I forget her name.

- M4H

 

[ColdFusion718]

Originally posted by: Canai
marked for later.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: Canai
marked for later.

ditto.

Anyone want to summarize her position?

she was in the Lubbys in texas when that crazy dude crashed his truck through the window and started killing everybody inside. she is pissed at the law makers for making assult weapons illegal because they have no "sporting value". she blast them by saying that the 2nd ammendment isnt about hunting, its about the citizens right to protect themselves from people like you and points to the panel.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: Canai
marked for later.

ditto.

Anyone want to summarize her position?

she was in the Lubbys in texas when that crazy dude crashed his truck through the window and started killing everybody inside. she is pissed at the law makers for making assult weapons illegal because they have no "sporting value". she blast them by saying that the 2nd ammendment isnt about hunting, its about the citizens right to protect themselves from people like you and points to the panel.

NICE!

 

[Unheard]

She basically tells it like it is, and that most gun laws are stupid as hell. :thumbsup: to her.

 

[Amused]

Great, but probably in the wrong forum.

 

[AMDZen]

I LOVE the last remark

"To protect themselves from all of you guys up there"

 

[MedicBob]

Very nice.

Basically her parents were killed and she doesn't support assault weapons bans and wants her right to carry.

"The Second Amendment isn't about duck hunting." Great line.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

This incident was the front runner for concealed carry in Texas.

Another politician in favor of the AWB

Must be nice to be able to do your job with no idea of what you are legislating.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: Canai
marked for later.

ditto.
Anyone want to summarize her position?

she was in the Lubbys in texas when that crazy dude crashed his truck through the window and started killing everybody inside. she is pissed at the law makers for making assult weapons illegal because they have no "sporting value". she blast them by saying that the 2nd ammendment isnt about hunting, its about the citizens right to protect themselves from people like you and points to the panel.

NICE!

Shizzle.
If I ever find a chick who has an AR-15 I'll marry her.

 

[lokiju]

Oh,

I thought you were posting some anti gun thing.

:thumbsup: for the right to bare arms.

 

[Toastedlightly]

She was on Penn and Teller's Bullshit.. sad story. She auctioned a hunting rifle for her local elementary school's benefit though

 

[txrandom]

Right now, there isn't a woman politician I'd vote for. If she became a politician, I'd vote for her.

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
This incident was the front runner for concealed carry in Texas.

Another politician in favor of the AWB

Must be nice to be able to do your job with no idea of what you are legislating.

Lol, I don't know what a barrel shroud is either, but that is hilarious.

 

[Matt2]

Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

Um, NO!

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html

There is no such thing as a "collective right." The Bill of Rights guarantee individual rights. The word "People" is used in the Bill of Rights to describe the citizens, NOT the government or it's agents.

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

The right of the PEOPLE.

An Analogue


"A well-educated electorate being necessary to the preservation of a free society, the right of the people to read and compose books shall not be infringed."

Obviously this does not mean that only well-educated voters have the right to read or write books. Nor does it mean that the right to read books of one's choosing can be restricted to only those subjects which lead to a well-educated electorate.

The purpose of this provision is: although not everyone may end up being well-educated, enough people will become well-educated to preserve a free society.

Nor can it be construed to deny one's pre-existing right to read books if there are not enough well-educated people to be found. The right to read books of one's choosing is not granted by the above statement. The rationale given is only one reason for not abridging that right, there are others as well.

Similarly the Second Amendment states, the people from whom a necessary and well-regulated militia will be composed, shall not have their right to keep and bear arms infringed.

It was the Founders' desire "that every man be armed" such that from the "whole body of the people" (militia) a sufficient number would serve in the well-regulated militia.

"Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States." --- Noah Webster of Pennsylvania, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787

 

[amish]

marked

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

a body of citizens organized for military service

I believe many fighters in the Revolutionary War were normal citizens like you me. The real army was the Continental Army.

 

[Unheard]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

Way to roll over to the gov't.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

1. If "the right of the people to keep and bear arms only refers to the NG, then does "the right of the people to peaceably assemble" only apply to the NG as well? Only soldiers are allowed to protest in your world, I guess.

2. The militia was every able bodied male.

Edit: Not to mention, what would be the point of an amendment that guaranteed the right of government soldiers to own firearms? What else are they going to do? Throw rotten fruit?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
This incident was the front runner for concealed carry in Texas.

Another politician in favor of the AWB

Must be nice to be able to do your job with no idea of what you are legislating.

Lol, I don't know what a barrel shroud is either, but that is hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_shroud

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Matt2
Doesnt the second amendment state that in a well regulated militia, to protect the free state, people have the right to bear arms?

Isnt a well regulated militia considered the state's National Guard? I dont think it's supposed to mean we can all have AK-47's.

Um, NO!

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html

There is no such thing as a "collective right." The Bill of Rights guarantee individual rights. The word "People" is used in the Bill of Rights to describe the citizens, NOT the government or it's agents.

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

The right of the PEOPLE.

An Analogue


"A well-educated electorate being necessary to the preservation of a free society, the right of the people to read and compose books shall not be infringed."

Obviously this does not mean that only well-educated voters have the right to read or write books. Nor does it mean that the right to read books of one's choosing can be restricted to only those subjects which lead to a well-educated electorate.

The purpose of this provision is: although not everyone may end up being well-educated, enough people will become well-educated to preserve a free society.

Nor can it be construed to deny one's pre-existing right to read books if there are not enough well-educated people to be found. The right to read books of one's choosing is not granted by the above statement. The rationale given is only one reason for not abridging that right, there are others as well.

Similarly the Second Amendment states, the people from whom a necessary and well-regulated militia will be composed, shall not have their right to keep and bear arms infringed.

It was the Founders' desire "that every man be armed" such that from the "whole body of the people" (militia) a sufficient number would serve in the well-regulated militia.

"Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States." --- Noah Webster of Pennsylvania, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787

Fair enough, that's just how I interpreted, but I'm not a law student or anything.

I just think that the second amendment was addressing the fact that people have the right to bear arms in defense of their state. Like the minute men coming together in a well regulated militia to defend themselves.

IMO it doesnt mean that everyone in the country can walk around wielding firearms so they can shoot eachother.