Assassin's Creed

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Lifer
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I was at the walmart today and noticed on the box it said pci-e only.
This game dosen't support Agp?
Lucky I didn't grab a 3850 agp card.
I guess Agp is not going to be supported in thenext generation of games>?
 

SergeC

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Wow, really? I didn't think that the exact hardware layout was even visible to the engine.....
 

nitromullet

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This game has some steep requirements, period...

http://steampowered.com/v/inde...game&AppId=15100&cc=US

Requires a dual core processor or better. Please check system requirements before purchasing.

Minimum:

* Supported OS: Windows® XP/Windows Vista® (only)
* Processor: Dual core processor 2.6 GHz Intel® Pentium® D or AMD Athlon? 64 X2 3800+ (Intel Core® 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or better recommended)
* System Memory: Windows XP: 1 GB RAM / Windows Vista: 2 GB RAM
* Video Card: 256 MB DirectX® 10.0?compliant video card or DirectX 9.0?compliant card with Shader Model 3.0 or higher (*see supported list)
* Sound Card: DirectX 9.0 or 10.0?compliant sound card (5.1 sound card recommended)
* DirectX Version: Direct X 9.0 (Windows XP) or 10.0 (Windows Vista) libraries
* Hard Disk: 8 GB available hard disk space
* Supported Peripherals: Keyboard, mouse, optional controller (Xbox 360® Controller for Windows recommended)
* *Supported video cards at time of release: ATI® RADEON® X1600** /1650**? 1950/ HD 2000/3000 series, NVIDIA GeForce® 6800**/7/8/9 series. **PCI Express only supported. Laptop versions of these cards may work but are NOT supported. These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game. For the most up-to-date requirements, please visit the FAQ for this game at: http://support.ubi.com.

 

Jax Omen

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Given the **, maybe they mean only the PCI-E versions of the x1600/1650 and the 6800?

I'd be amazed if a modern game didn't support the AGP 3850. That would be just silly.
 

v8envy

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Could be because the AGP versions of some of those cards were cut down by marketing to make the PCIe ones more attractive at the time, and ubi just doesn't feel like listing every possible flavor of every possible product NV and ATI produced since 2005. You notice there is no PCIe requirement for the 7 series or 3000 series, both of which had AGP SKUs.

I'm sure that they're saying '7600GS is the minimum card, try to have better' here. They should have just linked a tom's hardware GPU chart, drawn a line just above the 6600GT, crossed out the X800 series and called it a day.
 

Foxery

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It has nothing to do with the bus type; the game should install just fine on any system you like. Performance, however, is another issue entirely! It's nothing more than an indication that your system is unlikely to be able to handle this very demanding game.
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: Jax Omen
Given the **, maybe they mean only the PCI-E versions of the x1600/1650 and the 6800?

I'd be amazed if a modern game didn't support the AGP 3850. That would be just silly.

thats how I read it.
 

thilanliyan

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Yeah I doubt the bus type has anything to do with it. SM2 cards vs SM3 cards might be different though.
 

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I was reading through some of the UBI forums and yes it will run with AGP cards and alot of people say it's running fine with hyperthreading pent 4 cpu's at 3.0. Athlon 3700+ also. They say if you have a decent video card it runs fine with single core cpu"s.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: m0mentary
Originally posted by: Jax Omen
Given the **, maybe they mean only the PCI-E versions of the x1600/1650 and the 6800?

I'd be amazed if a modern game didn't support the AGP 3850. That would be just silly.

thats how I read it.
The problem here is there is no driver support for the 3850 agp.
Amd dosen't support it yet in it's catalyst drivers. The manufacturer of the card supplies you drivers.
 

evolucion8

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ATi released the Hotfix 8.4 which weights about 31MB and works fine with the HD 2X00 series and HD 3850 cards. Also I think that when they state that they don't support the AGP version is because they think that most AGP platforms are weak for the game.

The game engine cannot tell if the card is AGP or PCI-E, even the RIALTO or BR02 bridge which converts PCI-E signals to AGP signals is transparent to the driver. The fact that ATi doesn't currently support those AGP cards is because it lacks of the vendors extensions identification, and remember that those just released drivers are released from different timeframes and teams, a WHQL certification can take a while, and the driver development take months, that's why they have different teams to accomplish this, a month is not enough to solve all those issues in the driver readme text, specially the 8.3 which came with lots of fixes and improvements. Also you can install the officialy ones with the manual installation and will work fine.