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Asrock Q1900DC-ITX experience

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bgt

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Just assembled this board in a tiny pc housing: Chieftec/IX-03B-OP with a cheap 12V/3A adapter(the 1 I used with the 5350 combo).
Idle: 9-10W
Prime 95: 18W
Prime95+Furmark: 27W
It feels reasonably fast when surfing(11W) or playing a mkv(13W).
 
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As miniaturisation slows down does the gap between (ultra)mobile and desktop become bigger or smaller?
I checked Anandtech Bench for the J1900, which for some inexplicable reason is called a Celeron, it's just slightly slower than a core 2 or an Athlon II x4, so that's five years, is it?
Having fallen for the idea of fast enough once with the Atom, the trouble on the desktop is that there isn't any software developed to run well on smaller MHz, unlike with the millions of smart-phones.
Intel also tried to sell the small form-factor, in the form of NUC and similar stuff, which are brilliantly power saving on idle, but have some performance reserves. It's an improvement over the Nettop idea, sure those nettops are great for specific stuff, like home automation, streaming or whatever. Intel also market them as such,
"ideal for efficient imaging workflows, digital signage with secure content delivery, visually appealing interactive clients (interactive kiosks, intelligent vending, ATM, and point-of-sale (POS) terminals), portable medical devices, industrial control systems, and In-Vehicle Infotainment (IVI) systems". link
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The truth is however that a desktop tower that consumes <10 watts on idle would be even better.

Just how hot does it get, passive cooling kind of needs to get hot to work.
 
I really want to purchase this board so please more user experience would be great. I'd be extremely greatful.

Also, is such a board (with an HDD) able to be used in a 1U server chassis with 0 fans?
 
know of fence said:
As miniaturisation slows down does the gap between (ultra)mobile and desktop become bigger or smaller?
I checked Anandtech Bench for the J1900, which for some inexplicable reason is called a Celeron, it's just slightly slower than a core 2 or an Athlon II x4, so that's five years, is it?
Having fallen for the idea of fast enough once with the Atom, the trouble on the desktop is that there isn't any software developed to run well on smaller MHz, unlike with the millions of smart-phones.
Intel also tried to sell the small form-factor, in the form of NUC and similar stuff, which are brilliantly power saving on idle, but have some performance reserves. It's an improvement over the Nettop idea, sure those nettops are great for specific stuff, like home automation, streaming or whatever. Intel also market them as such,The truth is however that a desktop tower that consumes <10 watts on idle would be even better.

Just how hot does it get, passive cooling kind of needs to get hot to work.
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Intel decided to relabel Bay Trail (Atom "3.0") to now house both the Celeron and Pentium names :|

So even though this particular J1900 is a "quad core" Bay Trail Celeron, it's single-thread performance is still about 1/2 that of a typical Ivy-Bridge/Haswell-based Celeron.
 
Reviews from NewEgg..
"When i upgraded to 16gigs of memory much more fluent and more able, hard pressed to tell the difference from my i3 or i5 for everyday tasks. I have had 4 programs working at the same time with no slowdowns or issues"

win 7 64bit WEI score 5.0
cpu 6.4
memory 7.7
graphics desktop 5.0
graphics gamming 5.9
hard disk 7.9

windows 8 64bit even faster

MUCH faster than the first generation Atom it is replacing. Runs cool. Has 4 SATA ports and DC power.

Will run a full bandwidth Blu-Ray movie at about 50% CPU with H/W acceleration. Plenty of power for a quiet HTPC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495
 
AkumaX said:
Intel decided to relabel Bay Trail (Atom "3.0") to now house both the Celeron and Pentium names :|

So even though this particular J1900 is a "quad core" Bay Trail Celeron, it's single-thread performance is still about 1/2 that of a typical Ivy-Bridge/Haswell-based Celeron.
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maybe 1/4 ST...
 
Mystery why you'd want one. I have a 4770 non K in this porn box with the sole purpose of being liquid fast for everything I do. Buying something that cheap and slow just limits what you can do with it.
 
escrow4 said:
Mystery why you'd want one. I have a 4770 non K in this porn box with the sole purpose of being liquid fast for everything I do. Buying something that cheap and slow just limits what you can do with it.
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How about you give me the extra $260 dollars to get a 4770+mobo over the Q1900DC-ITX then?

Since it's a COMPLETE mystery as to why someone would want it to you....
 
playing a mkv movie 15C more
running Prime and Furmark 50C more, so for me @ the moment 27C+50C for 1/2 hour continuously
 
How much faster is your i3 or your G3220 at web browsing than this PC?
If you're only web browsing would you take the i3, G3220, or the J1900?
 
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How much faster is your i3 or your G3220 at web browsing than this PC?
If you're only web browsing would you take the i3, G3220, or the J1900?
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I did a test out of curiosity and my Celeron 1007U (IvyBridge @ 1.5GHz) was about 30% faster overall than a J1900 Bay Trail using Google's Octane web benchmark. Not that I think BayTrail is too slow for basic tasks but it certainly will be obsolete sooner than the i3 or G3220.
 
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Some more benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8067/...athlon-53505150-and-sempron-38502650-tested/6

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The Celeron J1800 and J1900 do well against the AM1 Athlon.
 
I've recently replaced a 65nm core 2 era - Pentium from 2007, it also runs @ 2 GHz (though it is easily OC'able on any board...). It's still faster than the J1900, in single threaded Cinebench.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/68?vs=1227

It idles around 60W, has an annoyingly loud CPU fan and only VGA out, yet I think the two are comparable. At least I can rest easy knowing it may be fast enough still
 
Vesku said:
I did a test out of curiosity and my Celeron 1007U (IvyBridge @ 1.5GHz) was about 30% faster overall than a J1900 Bay Trail using Google's Octane web benchmark. Not that I think BayTrail is too slow for basic tasks but it certainly will be obsolete sooner than the i3 or G3220.
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Thanks. I'm looking for user experience if you can of your 10007u for web browsing. The benchmarks are helpful but don't give me a grear idea of the experience. My kitchen PC is a celeron 450 and my i7 4770k probably puts w bencmark 5 times faster than it but it doesn't feel that day on day to day browsing.

It'd help me a lot if you could tell me how it feels web browsing vs your primary machine .

Edit, oops I meant how baytrail feels not sure if you have it.
 
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bgt said:
Just assembled this board in a tiny pc housing: Chieftec/IX-03B-OP with a cheap 12V/3A adapter(the 1 I used with the 5350 combo).
Idle: 9-10W
Prime 95: 18W
Prime95+Furmark: 27W
It feels reasonably fast when surfing(11W) or playing a mkv(13W).
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Hi

I am very interested in your setup (Asrock Q1900DC-ITX + Chieftec/IX-03B-OP) because I am thinking to build a similar configuration.

My setup will be:

Chiefetc IX-03B-90W
Asrock Q1900-ITX
Transcend JetRAM 4 GB DDR3 SO-DIMM
Kingston SSD 60 GB
Seagate HD 2.5" 500 GB

Only I have 3 questions about this case:

If you mount two drives bays internal (2.5") like me, ¿can they to touch with the CPU heatsink?.

What is the distance between them (CPU heatsink and HD 2.5")?. I guess that some millimeters.

Finally, how are the temperatures (idle and playing MKV) inside this case?.

Thanks in advance 😉
 
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Could anyone who has this or another J1900 board elaborate on the temperatures? Is adding a fan a must? Is it at least requires to put this in a case with lots of vent holes?

I'd like to see some temp figures on idle, CPU load and GPU load (playing a video for example)
 
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