Asrock Dual SATA2 freezes/hangs when loading Windows

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professor1942

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Originally posted by: Imp

professor, I think it's time you called some professionals. Sounds like a haunting:Q. And how close are the speakers to your case on the desk:p? That and how old are said speakers?

The speakers are from a stereo I got in 1990. :D

That was one of the first things I thought of though and have tried putting the closer one on the floor, leaving them off etc. so I don't think it's that.

 

Athlon64SSE3

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today...after 8 hours and half, another bsod...that resetted my machine.....when my brother was chatting through wifi network with a nice blonde :p ...
 

designit

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Have checked into the rams? maybe not enough vdimm. or Power supply not adequate.
usually those kind of bsod's are lack power, ram setting, lack of vdimm or vcore.
That is if you fresh installed xp and started bsod after first use, in a few hours, or a day later.
The 939SL-eSata "SATAII" drivers are the same as this mobo. It has better window installation (not Dos window). After you extract it and go to the sub-folder, you will see 2 Installation Icons. One is for winxp, and the other is for winxp64. "Asrock_Sata_V1059C2c_Eng" is winxp64, and "Asrock_SataV1059C1A_Eng" is winxp installation icon.
 

Athlon64SSE3

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Yes, i've checked ram with hours of memtest86, no problem at all. I was using same ddr modules (same configuration of all computer but with the previous hdd IDE) without problems...already other people told me to check that. If I detach sata drive and I begin using an IDE drive, this error will disapper. This problem began to appear from when I bought this hitachi sata2 drive. I downloaded both files to check what was inside :), I found that in both files there is a Winxp installation. But only for (M1689/M1567) (M1573) (M1575/M1697) ALI controllers, integrated in chip. These drivers are good only for the SATA1 controller in Raid mode, not for JMicron controller. Designit are you using 2 hdd in raid? No...so I think you don't need drivers. Or maybe you have an hdd running in raid mode (bios in RAID mode) but alone...
 

carstea

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@ Athlon64SSE3 hi there, I had the same problem as you have and what i did to fix it ( i hope i have, no freezing or anything for more than two weeks now) is that i moved my sataII HD to the sata1 controller on the board. that's it. that sata II controller must be the problem, i don't see what else might be causing it
 

boake

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It has been 10 days since I bought my sata2 hdd.
I have had no problems during that period.
It, if not surefire, proves that the walkaround I used works without any problem.

My method.
1. Connetct hdd to sata1 connector.
2. Install xp in sata1 mode.
3. Connect hdd to sata2 connector.
4. Switch to sata2-ide operation mode.
5. Install sata2 driver.
6. Switch to sata2-sata operation mode.
 

Athlon64SSE3

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carstea my hd is giving this problem *on the sata1* controller :-(. On sata2 controller (installed through floppy, pressing F6 during setup) I was getting freezes. I want only to backup with ghost my drive (system partition and software partition) and then try the boake's method with this installation of XP, that is a clean install with a few "sure" software installed correctly. I will let you know if there is an improvement, when I will have some time to open my case and try that!
 

boake

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One more thing, I add.

I didn't use cd to install xp.

I installed xp from my ide hdd (because it is much faster than cd installation.)

With my hdd connected to sata2 connector, I got bluescreen soon after I selected sata2 driver while installing xp.

That's why I used the walkaround I mentioned.

But I don't know what gave me the bluescreen.
 

imported_Imp

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This will probably not work, but professor's "replication" and "resolution" got me thinking. It's a budget board, so maybe(definately) the SATA channels are cheap and really crappily shielded and very temperamental. Professor had 1990's bookshelfs (good times:)) with probably un-excellent shielding from the magnets in it (interference on or off). He moved them off the desk, but due to size, maybe not far enough? Then I noticed my block of a subwoofer within 2 feet of my tower...

So, who else has big speakers or a subwoofer within 2-5 feet of their ASsRock? When ever I pulled/switched a plug to get it going again, I always powered up once about 4 feet away from the sub, and I don't recall it not working once. But if this is true, why does it work at all? And why is the IDE ok? Also, why'd my old system work over a year in same position? So this is a HUGE longshot you guys with trouble could at least try (moving sub away). Just a thought...
 

qsrk

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I have no speakers near my computer, but my old computer with its generic PSU is about a foot away, and always off. There's a very small sub (size of a bookshelf speaker), about two feet away from the computer, but next to my monitor and causes no visual disturbance on the screen.

About my SATAII setup, I installed the JMicron drivers in IDE mode and rebooted fine. HD Tach scores 251.8 / 56.0. Tried hibernation - screen went blank but computer never turned off, and HDD LED was on solid... FREEZE??!!! :shocked: Hibernation worked before, but had trouble resuming because of the cold boot problem on SATA1. After a hard reset, Windows could no longer find the HDD, but the BIOS could. Switch to SATA mode with no luck. Switch SATAII driving to strong, and fast boot! HD Tach 254.6 / 55.4 (long test)! :cool: Now the wait to see if it will freeze over time, or if it can now hibernate.

I have an RMA in place, but it would be nice if I could avoid using it.


EDIT: Still can't hibernate, and SYSTEM FROZE within 1 minute of loading Windows desktop. So much for the "boake method" :) RMA time!

P.S. Any chance that this problem is related to having multiple partitions on the HDD?
 

Indianax

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Hello Ladies,
I am the new one in town...I am from Germany. I also got this Motherboard...and following Problems:

What can I do? My old Graphics Card (Gibabyte Geforce FX5700 256 MB) was running before 2 Years on my last Board. Now I took this new Board from Asrock (to save money) and the Card is not running in AGP Direct 3d Mode (under Windows XP it works). Is there a trick or an Update? I tried the newest Nvidia drivers, but no result (Battlefied 1942 ist not working).

Please can you help me, is there any idea? Got no answer from Arsrock

Thank you in advance (sorry for my english, i am not a native speaker ;-)

Indianax

 

boake

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@qsrk
I have 3 partitions. c:fat32, d,e:ntfs
I don't think partitions can cause problem. :)

@Indianax
I'm sorry, but you are in the wrong thread.
This thread is for the guys who have problem with sata2 hdd.
 

Athlon64SSE3

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boake I have same type of partition as u: c: fat32, d e f g in ntfs :)...

@qsrk
did you try the "boake's method" ? :) And things are not working again?
 

qsrk

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Yes, unfortunately, "boake's method" did not work for me - freezing just like the bad old days. I might be missing something critical here, since I don't have a FAT32 partition. I have 9 NTFS partitions, with three reserved for x64.
 

boake

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Originally posted by: qsrk
Yes, unfortunately, "boake's method" did not work for me - freezing just like the bad old days. I might be missing something critical here, since I don't have a FAT32 partition. I have 9 NTFS partitions, with three reserved for x64.

You have so many partitions. :)
I recommend you to format C drive as fat32, and try my method again.
I'm sure my method will work for all the t7k250 users at least. :)

1. Connetct hdd to sata1 connector. (but my t7k250 was set to sata2 mode)
2. Install xp.
3. Connect hdd to sata2 connector.
4. Switch to sata2-ide operation mode.
5. Install sata2 driver.
6. Switch to sata2-sata operation mode.
 

Athlon64SSE3

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I don't think it's a partition related problem..maybe there are some defective boards? Or maybe some boards with a defective sata2 controller? I still must try that way. I hope your method will work! Qsrk...after installing sata2 driver....your XP is still working on SATA1 controller? I don't want to loose my current installation of XP....
 

crabbyman

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I redid my windows xp pro installation two days ago. I was having CSS withdrawl. So I just reinstalled win xp pro on the sataII drive on the sataII controller. I just chose to leave some of the stuff on the drive but erase the windows folder sections. Did the normal updating of everything. Working fine for 2 days now...we will see.
 

designit

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I think some of the problems you all are having is because people keep pressing "use my method" never mind, the official method, and do what I did-the work around.
Just do what everyone does(Using the manual/official) method, and dont complicate your problems by using"use my method it works great". If the official way does not work, Then no other way will work either, just more headache for you.
Just RMA the piece of crap and get a new board. OR Just dont use this mobo since you can not solve the problem(s) having or just unsatisfied.
 

boake

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I didn't press, but just recommended my method. :)
It was only you, who pressed opinion upon us all the time.

You remember you said "Come back in a week and tell me you have no problem."

Here is My answer:
I have got no single problem for 11 days from the day I bought hdd.
It just runs like silk.

What do you say now? :)
 

qsrk

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You have so many partitions. :)
I recommend you to format C drive as fat32, and try my method again.
I'm sure my method will work for all the t7k250 users at least. :)...
What is the benefit of a FAT32 partition? Is 9 too many? I have Windows, Paging File, and Programs partitions for x32 and x64 OS's, and 3 storage partitions.

Although users with different HDDs are having freezing problems, it looks like the T7K250 users mostly have the same symptoms. Came across "Opteron" in this thread. I'll see if he/she would like to join in here.

Athlon64SSE3, I previously was able to move to the SATA1 port to regain some stability, but then was experiencing the cold-boot problem. BTW, some users have managed to get rid of the cold boot problem by enabling Flexibility Option, at the expense of reduce memory performance.

EDIT: I was able to switch back to the SATA-I port labeled "SATA2" (not SATAII !), and HDD was even detected on cold boot! Maybe it is because the SATAII drivers are present. Maybe disabling the SATAII controller in Windows instead of the BIOS will help some users. HD Tach speeds back at 128 / 56.
 

boake

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Originally posted by: qsrk
You have so many partitions. :)
I recommend you to format C drive as fat32, and try my method again.
I'm sure my method will work for all the t7k250 users at least. :)...
What is the benefit of a FAT32 partition? Is 9 too many? I have Windows, Paging File, and Programs partitions for x32 and x64 OS's, and 3 storage partitions.

Although users with different HDDs are having freezing problems, it looks like the T7K250 users mostly have the same symptoms. Came across "Opteron" in this thread. I'll see if he/she would like to join in here.

Athlon64SSE3, I previously was able to move to the SATA1 port to regain some stability, but then was experiencing the cold-boot problem. BTW, some users have managed to get rid of the cold boot problem by enabling Flexibility Option, at the expense of reduce memory performance.

Fat32 is faster than ntfs in accessing files as I know, that's why I formatted C as fat32. :)
And the number of partitions doesn't seem to have something with this issue.


 

Athlon64SSE3

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LOL, qsrk, Opteron...it's me!! :D I tried to solve this problem on ocworkbench forum too ;) but none has a working solution :(
Now, problem i am getting is very strange...every time this boards invent a new thing: Now when i start my XP I get a VPU recover error and driver disables the hardware acceleration..so when i start my system I must reboot again :-(. I think it's all related to the first problem :(
Yesterday I got two BSOD "Machine check bla bla bla".....always random. qsrk do you still have the cold boot problem? On sata1 port? I haven't tried to connect my hdd to sata2 (always sata1 controller), but I think it's the same for me. I want to try to connect my hdd to SATAII (red) controller and *then* install drivers.

@designit
I want to understand if this is only a bad board and I must do RMA (boring...I must send it wait to receive another...remount all..very boring) or *all boards* work in the same way with my hdd :-(. Problem is common. A friend, near my home has a similar problem with controller..he is using only ide drives...but he's system takes too much time to find cdroms and dvd-rw...then it starts XP and all is fine. I proposed him to test my HDD on his motherboard....maybe we could exchange motherboards :) fixing all our problems (I get a sata2 drive working without his problem and he get all ide drives working, lol)