ASRock AM2 riser board pics

[JC]

I'd like to see it with a CPU/HSF mounted....

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[Jeff7181]

WTF?

 

[ND40oz]

Nice, obviously it might have some problems supporting a ninja or large heatsink, but the bracket with the screw will give it support.

 

[Happykilling]

hmmm

 

[dguy6789]

Nice, so it supports ddr2 with it? And here I thought I would have to use ddr with an AM2. Impressive.

 

[Jeff7181]

I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

 

[mindwreck]

some people might find replacing the motherboard too troublesome or expensive.. probably won't happen with this since the board was so cheap to begin with and i doubt that thing will be cheap enough to make up for it.

 

[Furen]

Well, at least the people who bought Asrock motherboards for the "future-proofness" wont be left high and dry..

 

[RichUK]

I wonder if there is any performance loss from using a daughter card. I suspect probably not as graphics cards are fine. Also by the looks of it you wont really be able to fit a large or heavy heatsink to it.

Is that daughter card using an AGP slot as the interface?

 

[tomt4535]

Originally posted by: RichUK
I wonder if there is any performance loss from using a daughter card. I suspect probably not as graphics cards are fine. Also by the looks of it you wont really be able to fit a large or heavy heatsink to it.

Is that daughter card using an AGP slot as the interface?

Im pretty sure its an AGP slot and connection, but its not a real AGP slot, they are just using the connector as the interface, not the actual bus.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

Thankfully AM2 looks compatible with existing NF4 & ULI Chipsets (maybe ATI too but I don't know for sure). Personally I prefer a proper Motherboard but I can see the benefits of the Riser card, especially since i've used a few in my time.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: DeathReborn

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

Thankfully AM2 looks compatible with existing NF4 & ULI Chipsets (maybe ATI too but I don't know for sure). Personally I prefer a proper Motherboard but I can see the benefits of the Riser card, especially since i've used a few in my time.

I guess with the memory controller being on die there wouldn't be any performance penalty in that respect... but if it uses an AGP slot, then it won't be available for nForce4 based motherboards, and will only allow the use of integrated or PCI graphics, which I guess is fine as long as you don't do anything that involves 3D graphics.

 

[aka1nas]

That board is using a SiS chipset, so I wouldn't hold my breath on Nforce4 being compatable yet.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: DeathReborn

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

Thankfully AM2 looks compatible with existing NF4 & ULI Chipsets (maybe ATI too but I don't know for sure). Personally I prefer a proper Motherboard but I can see the benefits of the Riser card, especially since i've used a few in my time.

I guess with the memory controller being on die there wouldn't be any performance penalty in that respect... but if it uses an AGP slot, then it won't be available for nForce4 based motherboards, and will only allow the use of integrated or PCI graphics, which I guess is fine as long as you don't do anything that involves 3D graphics.

Remember those AGP+PCI-E boards that were out? Well now you can use the AGP slots for something else.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: DeathReborn

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

Thankfully AM2 looks compatible with existing NF4 & ULI Chipsets (maybe ATI too but I don't know for sure). Personally I prefer a proper Motherboard but I can see the benefits of the Riser card, especially since i've used a few in my time.

I guess with the memory controller being on die there wouldn't be any performance penalty in that respect... but if it uses an AGP slot, then it won't be available for nForce4 based motherboards, and will only allow the use of integrated or PCI graphics, which I guess is fine as long as you don't do anything that involves 3D graphics.

Remember those AGP+PCI-E boards that were out? Well now you can use the AGP slots for something else.

So this is a product for 0.00001% of the boards on the market? As I said... not much of a market for such a product.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Nice concept, but those upgrading to a AM2, even those with the riser-compatible Asrock boards, will probably buy a new board anyway.

If only the riser allows you to run AM2 and 939 CPUs at the same time....

 

[JC]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Remember those AGP+PCI-E boards that were out? Well now you can use the AGP slots for something else.

Ummm....this is for those boards. The AGP slot is separate from the Future CPU port. ASRock makes several boards that can take daughter cards for CPUs. Don't any of you have a 939Dual-SATA2?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: JC

Originally posted by: Hacp

Remember those AGP+PCI-E boards that were out? Well now you can use the AGP slots for something else.

Ummm....this is for those boards. The AGP slot is separate from the Future CPU port. ASRock makes several boards that can take daughter cards for CPUs. Don't any of you have a 939Dual-SATA2?

Yeah, there's a few of us

 

[Furen]

Ok, let me point it out once more just in case someone still hasn't gotten it... THIS ONLY WORKS ON MOTHERBOARDS THAT HAVE A "FUTURE CPU EXPANSION SLOT" as Asrock calls it. It may look like a normal AGP card, but it isn't. This card actually requires you to flip some jumper switches so you disable the HT link to the motherboard's socket and use this one instead (so the slot is basically a hypertransport link to the chipset).

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Furen
Ok, let me point it out once more just in case someone still hasn't gotten it... THIS ONLY WORKS ON MOTHERBOARDS THAT HAVE A "FUTURE CPU EXPANSION SLOT" as Asrock calls it. It may look like a normal AGP card, but it isn't. This card actually requires you to flip some jumper switches so you disable the HT link to the motherboard's socket and use this one instead (so the slot is basically a hypertransport link to the chipset).

:thumbsup:

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: DeathReborn

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I don't see a market for it. Use new RAM and a new CPU on an outdated motherboard and chipset. Why would you want to?

Thankfully AM2 looks compatible with existing NF4 & ULI Chipsets (maybe ATI too but I don't know for sure). Personally I prefer a proper Motherboard but I can see the benefits of the Riser card, especially since i've used a few in my time.

I guess with the memory controller being on die there wouldn't be any performance penalty in that respect... but if it uses an AGP slot, then it won't be available for nForce4 based motherboards, and will only allow the use of integrated or PCI graphics, which I guess is fine as long as you don't do anything that involves 3D graphics.

I was under the impression that this was designed to interface with the dedicated cpu upgrade port that is on at least the asrock 939dual, not AGP.

Edit: ...or...alternatively see Furen's post.

 

[starwars7]

Any word on the price tag for this bad boy?

 

[CU]

Don 't know the price, but I think the price for the 939 riser card for the older 754 ASROCK boards were around $20-$30. If this riser card is around the same price, I think it is good deal.

 

[Cook1]

That is a wicked lookin board.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: CU
Don 't know the price, but I think the price for the 939 riser card for the older 754 ASROCK boards were around $20-$30. If this riser card is around the same price, I think it is good deal.

I agree that it's a good deal (assuming they stick with more or less the same pricing), but I'm not sure how many ASRock users will actually use this upgrade path. It's a really cool idea, but many (most?) of us who bought the 939Dual-SATA2 did so because we still had a nice AGP card we didn't yet want to get rid of (on a very reasonably priced $65 board)...I'm not sure that we're in the same group that would be initial adopters for a new CPU socket and memory format, which would mean at least several hundred dollars in cash outlay...

Edit: Then again, it is possible that people might want to use this a year or two down the line (though IMO anyone who has a recent Socket 939 CPU, especially a dual-core, won't have much to gain from AM2 until the 65nm stuff starts coming out)...this combo could very possibly become the only Socket AM2 board in existence with an AGP slot...