ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 - Socket 939 with PCI-E and real AGP and Socket AM2 upgrade path

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Nesta

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Hello all

So I've been running this mobo for about 5 months and been fairly happy. I am now getting ready to upgrade from a 6800GT to 7900GT (AGP to PCIe).

Any recommendations? I know there would be some BIOS setting changes and most likely a jumper. Otherwise, what about uninstalling the AGP driver??

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professor1942

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Just set the primary graphics adapter to PCI-E in your BIOS, adn that's about it. I didn't bother uninstalling anything except the the actual AGP card.
 

Araemo

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Edit: Fix below!

I've got an interesting issue now..

Everything seems to work perfectly, except...

I have a Canon digital camera, and when I plug it in via USB, it is detected fine, and I am able to transfer files off of the camera and delete them from the camera..

But, when I unplug or turn off the camera, my USB Mouse starts moving very jerkily, making it very hard to click on anything(It looks like it keeps track of the movement perfectly, but only updates the cursor every second or something.) If I plug the camera back in, the mouse smooths out. WTF?

I've tried disabling any recent software installs(VMWare ESX server beta, which does do some stuff w/ USB.. I disabled its services and made sure it wasn't running and tried again after a reboot - no fix.) that might effect USB.. I still have one thing I want to try, but if that doesn't work, I'm at a loss...

Canon's website does not list any drivers for windows XP, and I cannot find my original install disk. I will try disabling legacy USB support in the bios, but this is an annoying problem, because the only way I've found to fix the mouse is rebooting (Unplugging and plugging back in does not work)

It does not seem to effect my keyboard though, which is also USB.

Edit: Little more detail: It was doing this with ANY usb 2.0 device I plugged in, my usb/firewire external drive was doing it too.. I just prefer to use firewire so I didn't notice until I tried testing it.

Fix: Disable 'gated clock function' in the bios. I had been turning that on/off during my overclocking to see if it affected my overclocks at all, and it had been left on.
 

qsrk

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Just noticed ULi has released version 2.20 Integrated Drivers here. Has anyone tried them yet? Any word on the changes? Too new to call them reliable?
 
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Originally posted by: qsrk
Just noticed ULi has released version 2.20 Integrated Drivers here. Has anyone tried them yet? Any word on the changes? Too new to call them reliable?

I just looked at the readme file (and the differences from the older 2.10 drivers)...looks like there were a few minor things changed between the two driver sets:

Newer LAN drivers (version 3.50 [from 3.40] for all OS'es, and now WHQL certified apparently; along with a 3.51 version for Vista)
Newer USB 2.0 controller driver, all OS'es except x64 and Vista (1.76 instead of 1.75)
New driver for the M5287 (version 6.0.2.9), whatever the hell that is :p
Similarly, new driver for the M5288 :confused: (Edit: looks like the M5287/88 has to do with the SATA/RAID controller)

Nothing else changed except that several of the drivers have now been either updated for, or at least tested on, Windows Vista...which is a really good thing IMO that they're working on this stuff right now (I'd had a lingering fear in the back of my mind that we'd be screwed for Vista driver support now that they'd gotten bought out by Nvidia...)

I'll add the link to the first post, thanks for bringing it up :)
 

qsrk

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Is the recommended procedure to let the ULi installer detect and install what it thinks is required, and nothing else (XP 32-bit)?
 
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Originally posted by: qsrk
Is the recommended procedure to let the ULi installer detect and install what it thinks is required, and nothing else (XP 32-bit)?

I think so...it's been a while since I've installed them though (the date on the 2.10 drivers is September 7 :p)
 

designit

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: qsrk
Just noticed ULi has released version 2.20 Integrated Drivers here. Has anyone tried them yet? Any word on the changes? Too new to call them reliable?

I just looked at the readme file (and the differences from the older 2.10 drivers)...looks like there were a few minor things changed between the two driver sets:

Newer LAN drivers (version 3.50 [from 3.40] for all OS'es, and now WHQL certified apparently; along with a 3.51 version for Vista)
Newer USB 2.0 controller driver, all OS'es except x64 and Vista (1.76 instead of 1.75)
New driver for the M5287 (version 6.0.2.9), whatever the hell that is :p
Similarly, new driver for the M5288 :confused: (Edit: looks like the M5287/88 has to do with the SATA/RAID controller)

Nothing else changed except that several of the drivers have now been either updated for, or at least tested on, Windows Vista...which is a really good thing IMO that they're working on this stuff right now (I'd had a lingering fear in the back of my mind that we'd be screwed for Vista driver support now that they'd gotten bought out by Nvidia...)

I'll add the link to the first post, thanks for bringing it up :)
those are pci and usb drivers. go to device mamanger, under property, click on drivers detail, will see some of those #. Better use the latest from ULi website.
Edit: yes let Uli decide what you need to install.

 

designit

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If you notice 1697 has the same divers 2.20. so if needed you can usee the window version of sataII drivers that is made for Asrock 939 sli e-sata.
It has a window interface and can be used for this mobo. this eleminates using"f6" method from floppy.
 

Araemo

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Originally posted by: designit
this eleminates using"f6" method from floppy.

Or you can just download nlite and add the sata drivers to your install disk. I find that to be a much better method. :)
 

qsrk

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On a clean install with only SATAII drivers provided prior to installation, the new 2.20 Installer automatically selected 4 items:

- ULi PCI to AGP Controller Driver
- ULi PCI 10-100 Fast Ethernet Controller Driver
- ULi M5289 SATA Controller Driver
- ULi AC'97 Audio Controller Driver

Not selected was the only other option:
- ULi USB2.0 Controller Driver
 

designit

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That USB driver is in winxp inf files and automatically installed during winxp installation. dont worry about that one, it's already installed. So, Is winxp in sataII working for you now?
 

qsrk

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Unfortunately, it is worse than ever - and that is without installing a single driver except the Jmicron drivers during Windows setup.
 

nocrapman

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I have both SATA and SATA II drives running no this board without any hassle... and I am relative newbie to DIY computers. Must say this board is pretty good for a budget build. For a a first timer I had no problems at all. I did however research a little bit before installation.
 

Dragonfly47

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I'm awaiting delivery of my ASRock Dual. Has anyone had experience running a Gigabtyte Radeon 9550 AGP with this board?
 

qsrk

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Originally posted by: Alexey Romanov
I've read SATA II support isn't too good on this board. Are problems common?
Don't know how common. Some people may just have defective motherboards, and some may have installed incorrectly. See threads here, here, and here.

 

Araemo

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Well, my second board was working perfectly, until I tried changing my RAM timings.

I had finally gotten a better heatsink than the A64 stock(I'm now using an opteron stock heatpipe unit). I had gotten my CPU overclocked to 2.4(w/ 9x multiplier, at 265 HTT), but I couldn't get my ram to run stable with the 166 divider(about 220 mhz), so I tried to reduce the timings on my ram(changed from 2.5-4-4-8 to 3.0-4-4-9), and the motherboard would not finish POST at all after that change. It would get as far as showing me my RAM amount(2048MB), but would not go past that.

I tried to clear the cmos, using the clear cmos jumper. After clearing it, the board POSTs, but it only detects 16MB of ram, it says the cmos battery is low, it says the cmos date/clock is wrong, and it says to press f2 to enter setup or press f1 to load defaults and continue. After the POST screen, it clears the screen and displays an error message at the top: Please choose the correct boot device, or insert boot media into the boot device and press any key.

I can press a key all I want, and it doesn't boot(or even seem to respond), ctrl-alt-delete does nothing. I cannot get into setup by pressing F2, and I cannot get it to load defaults and continue by pressing f1. I've tried both a USB and a PS2 keyboard. I even tried disconnecting power and pulling the cmos battery for 30 minutes. I got the same message after I had hooked everything back up.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm at work now, when I get home I'll stick my ram into another system just to make sure it works(I really doubt thats the problem), and I'll pull the battery until I hear from ASRock or someone with a good idea. I really want my system back. It was prime95 stable at 2.4, at 45C, so I don't think I've cooked my CPU. I don't see how I could cook my ram by setting timings slower than stock? And shouldn't that be completely cleaned up after a bios reset? I'm a bit annoyed, since I am currently without my desktop completely, until I get this resolved.

At this point, the only things connected to the motherboard are: CPU, CD-ROM, Floppy, 4 sticks of ram, video card, sound card, ps2 keyboard, usb mouse. I don't want my hard drives getting a ton of power cycles as I get this worked out, so they're completely disconnected from power and SATA. I disconnected all my USB devices except the mouse. I've tried removing my ram two sticks at a time, so that I only have two sticks in - still only detects 16MB, still gives the same error.

Edit: Tested my ram, it's fine.

Called ASRock. Do they only have one support guy? :p Anyways, the board is being RMA'd. Heres hoping #3 comes out ok.
 

Gstanfor

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I've just ordered this motherboard, hoping for good things from it.

One annoying sidenote - nVIDIA appears to have removed all ULi drivers from the ULi website - I get a 404 not found when trying to download the drivers, not impressed nVIDIA! Found the drivers elsewhere anyhow.

I'll be getting an X2 4400 for the board and running everything totally stock standard, no overclocking whatsoever. I'm coming from SocketA and if at all possible I would like to bring my windows XP-SP2 installation with me (3 years old now, set up exactly how I like it). I understand it should be possible, but pitfalls may be getting windows to recognise all the SIMD (SSE, 3dnow!) extensions and maybe dual core support. Anyone have any guidelines on this?
 

Gstanfor

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That's the site I tried. Tried on 3 different machines (3 different ISP's) and got a 404 not found every time. Got them by searching filemirrors.com in the end.
 

Dragonfly47

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
That's the site I tried. Tried on 3 different machines (3 different ISP's) and got a 404 not found every time. Got them by searching filemirrors.com in the end.


Man, that's odd. Perhaps we're not DL'ing the same thing? Integrated20963.zip for M1695 - WinXP? I just got mine from there earlier tonight and to test, I'm downloading again from there right now.....and..."File Complete". Oh well, at least you were able to find what you needed. Good deal.
 

Gstanfor

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Image1 Image2

So far as I know 2.0963 is quite an old driver, you want the bottom one in Image1. haven't tried to download any of the older ones.

nVIDIA better get off of their ass and fix this pronto, if I lived in the USA I'd be making a complaint to the Anti-Trust folks about this. I was fine with them buying out ULi, I'm not fine with them pulling crap like this.
 

Dragonfly47

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Image1 Image2

So far as I know 2.0963 is quite an old driver, you want the bottom one in Image1. haven't tried to download any of the older ones.

nVIDIA better get off of their ass and fix this pronto, if I lived in the USA I'd be making a complaint to the Anti-Trust folks about this. I was fine with them buying out ULi, I'm not fine with them pulling crap like this.


Thanks for pointing that out. 2.20 seems to be the only one that won't download. The others are there. (BTW, you might wanna edit the link to Image1 - it's busted). Before I contact the Feds, I think I'll email NVidia/Uli and see if there's a reason they took that particular driver set off.

Update: Was able to DL the 220 driver set from <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://www.uli.com.tw/driver/">ftp://www.uli.com.tw/driver/</a> using MSIE.
Look for Integrated220.zip.rar. The HTTP page link is to ftp://www.uli.com.tw/driver/Integrated220.rar. They left out the "zip".
 

Gstanfor

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Now that's cleared up does anybody know how to ensure new cpu's get recognised properly if I don't want to reinstall windows?

There is a decent guide on ARS Technica Link, but my main concern as stated above is that all the new processor features SSE2 SSE3, etc get properly recognised by windows.