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Finally got my board and got everything up and running pretty painlessly 
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I fired up speedfan and I'm trying to figure out what's what here.
Temp1: 27C
Temp2: 32C
Temp3: 31C
I've been watching it for a while now and it seems like temp3 always stays about 1 degree cooler than temp2.
Kinda cool that this thing picked up the temps of my harddrives. Now if I could get it to show my vidcard temp I'd be set.
.I fired up speedfan and I'm trying to figure out what's what here.
Temp1: 27C
Temp2: 32C
Temp3: 31C
I've been watching it for a while now and it seems like temp3 always stays about 1 degree cooler than temp2.
Kinda cool that this thing picked up the temps of my harddrives. Now if I could get it to show my vidcard temp I'd be set
.I recently bought the 939Dual board from Newegg while I was searching for a decent 939/agp upgrade path. I was really impressed by the huge feature list on this $70 board. After looking at a few CPU's I saw a suggestion to pair it with an Opteron 165. Newegg also had that, for about $330. Not the cheapest its been, but still cheaper than a fast X2.
After playing with everything for a few days, the fastest overclock I could get was 2.466 (274x9) out of a 1.8GHz cpu.
At 274HTT (x4), its perfectly stable, and runs hours on Prime95. At 275HTT, it refuses to POST. I'm using BIOS 1.60. Seems like a pretty solid ceiling for this dang bios. I'm not too sure about trying a modified bios... I really feel like I can squeeze much more out of this CPU, even with a 9x multiplier. Hell, now all we need is a multiplier mod hack for Opterons.
After playing with everything for a few days, the fastest overclock I could get was 2.466 (274x9) out of a 1.8GHz cpu.
At 274HTT (x4), its perfectly stable, and runs hours on Prime95. At 275HTT, it refuses to POST. I'm using BIOS 1.60. Seems like a pretty solid ceiling for this dang bios. I'm not too sure about trying a modified bios... I really feel like I can squeeze much more out of this CPU, even with a 9x multiplier. Hell, now all we need is a multiplier mod hack for Opterons.
Originally posted by: DuoDreamer
I recently bought the 939Dual board from Newegg while I was searching for a decent 939/agp upgrade path. I was really impressed by the huge feature list on this $70 board. After looking at a few CPU's I saw a suggestion to pair it with an Opteron 165. Newegg also had that, for about $330. Not the cheapest its been, but still cheaper than a fast X2.
After playing with everything for a few days, the fastest overclock I could get was 2.466 (274x9) out of a 1.8GHz cpu.
At 274HTT (x4), its perfectly stable, and runs hours on Prime95. At 275HTT, it refuses to POST. I'm using BIOS 1.60. Seems like a pretty solid ceiling for this dang bios. I'm not too sure about trying a modified bios... I really feel like I can squeeze much more out of this CPU, even with a 9x multiplier. Hell, now all we need is a multiplier mod hack for Opterons.
There's a cap of 274 HTT in BIOS 1.20 and newer. Use BIOS 1.0 or 1.15 to go beyond it. (which may introduce cold-boot problems that some people had with older BIOS) By the way - does anyone know if the newer OCW beta's (1.5) allow >274? Or is the OCB1 the only way to go? I'm getting the itch to see how high the Opty will go
Originally posted by: OvErHeAtInG
There's a cap of 274 HTT in BIOS 1.20 and newer. Use BIOS 1.0 or 1.15 to go beyond it. (which may introduce cold-boot problems that some people had with older BIOS) By the way - does anyone know if the newer OCW beta's (1.5) allow >274? Or is the OCB1 the only way to go? I'm getting the itch to see how high the Opty will go
I thought that the older (<1.4) bioses didn't have support for the Opterons? And has anyone actually shown why there is a 274 wall?
Originally posted by: DuoDreamer
Originally posted by: OvErHeAtInG
There's a cap of 274 HTT in BIOS 1.20 and newer. Use BIOS 1.0 or 1.15 to go beyond it. (which may introduce cold-boot problems that some people had with older BIOS) By the way - does anyone know if the newer OCW beta's (1.5) allow >274? Or is the OCB1 the only way to go? I'm getting the itch to see how high the Opty will go
I thought that the older (<1.4) bioses didn't have support for the Opterons? And has anyone actually shown why there is a 274 wall?
There are many people running the OCWBeta1 and 2 BIOS's on Opterons. Not sure about the original BIOS, but all other support Opty's fine.
As for the cap, you will need OCWBeta 1 or 2 to go > 274. OCWBeta3 and later all have the cap.
From what Asrock support has stated, the cap was put in the BIOS because the board became too unstable at 275+ HTT's and was causing too many problems as people went for very high OC's. Not sure if that's the actual reason, or maybe they just didn't like everyone having an excellent OC'ing board for $70, when other OC'ing boards are $100+.
Originally posted by: Ike0069
Originally posted by: DuoDreamer
Originally posted by: OvErHeAtInG
There's a cap of 274 HTT in BIOS 1.20 and newer. Use BIOS 1.0 or 1.15 to go beyond it. (which may introduce cold-boot problems that some people had with older BIOS) By the way - does anyone know if the newer OCW beta's (1.5) allow >274? Or is the OCB1 the only way to go? I'm getting the itch to see how high the Opty will go
I thought that the older (<1.4) bioses didn't have support for the Opterons? And has anyone actually shown why there is a 274 wall?
There are many people running the OCWBeta1 and 2 BIOS's on Opterons. Not sure about the original BIOS, but all other support Opty's fine.
As for the cap, you will need OCWBeta 1 or 2 to go > 274. OCWBeta3 and later all have the cap.
From what Asrock support has stated, the cap was put in the BIOS because the board became too unstable at 275+ HTT's and was causing too many problems as people went for very high OC's. Not sure if that's the actual reason, or maybe they just didn't like everyone having an excellent OC'ing board for $70, when other OC'ing boards are $100+.
I've read about a few people getting the boards to work at over 300htt with the 1.5 bios. The idea is that it's just 275 through 299HTT that won't work, anything past that will.
Well, I flashed with the OCWbeta2 bios and tried my luck. Sure enough, I can boot past 275 without problems. So far, without any voltage mods, I can get 2.566GHz out of my 1.8GHz Opty165 at 285HTT. At 290, I couldn't even get into windows... just bluescreens and resets.
285MHz HTT x4 = 1140MHz FSB
PQI DDR400 2.5,4,4,8 @ 366 (flexibility option)
285MHz HTT x4 = 1140MHz FSB
PQI DDR400 2.5,4,4,8 @ 366 (flexibility option)
Could be memory timing's. Mine is rock solid at 200Mhz, and won't boot at 205. I set 133Mhz in the bios and use A64 tweaker to set it 150Mhz in windows. Works like a charm.
Um, wouldn't the problem be the fact that his HTT is 140 MHZ overclocked? He should set it to 3x, right?
I just thought I'd post a link to the new AM2 riser card )
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/blog.php?tid=5...tarttime=1140739200&endtime=1140825600
And I have also installed Vista February CTP 5308 on this board, it all installed fine, no sound or LAN, standard XP AC 97 drivers were fine and I use a belkin wireless card, which Ralink provide drivers for. All previous versions of Longhorn or Vista didnt install, wierdo trap dos errors.
My god I'm not sure I like vista, 49 processes on a default install! No more right click display properties, you get preferences instead and a subset of control panel, with all kinds of madness. The view looks nice, but Windows Blinds 5 plus a Vista skin looks just as nice. Anyways I drag on)
AM2 card did arrive)
) http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/blog.php?tid=5...tarttime=1140739200&endtime=1140825600
And I have also installed Vista February CTP 5308 on this board, it all installed fine, no sound or LAN, standard XP AC 97 drivers were fine and I use a belkin wireless card, which Ralink provide drivers for. All previous versions of Longhorn or Vista didnt install, wierdo trap dos errors.
My god I'm not sure I like vista, 49 processes on a default install! No more right click display properties, you get preferences instead and a subset of control panel, with all kinds of madness. The view looks nice, but Windows Blinds 5 plus a Vista skin looks just as nice. Anyways I drag on
) AM2 card did arrive
)Originally posted by: Wi1z
I just thought I'd post a link to the new AM2 riser card
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/blog.php?tid=5...tarttime=1140739200&endtime=1140825600
Wow, that's just so... weird.
Exceeding HTT 1000 rarely causes stability problems, but yes, should definitely set it down to 3x (there's no performance loss for doing so).
Well, I haven't had a problem with running the HTT at 1330MHZ (266x5), that was before I found the HTT Multiplier. Currently, the HTT is only at 1140 (285x4). In both cases, the memory is running LOWER than rated speed, so its not the memory causing the issue. I'm fairly certain that my cpu is pushing its limits at 2.6GHz. Still, a 42% overclock is pretty dang nice. How many chips can go that far? I'll give the 3x multiplier a try, I'll post my results later.
EDIT: I tried 3x, and it still wouldn't bother to boot. This one isn't an HTT limit problem, most likely a cpu top end problem.
Definitely, if I hit 285 with mine I'll be happy. I just went down to OCWBeta2, (from 1.2). Right now I'm fiddling with my newfound ability to run 1T... sure enough I'm having the usual 1T problem above DDR266 but I had to try Interestingly, 3DMark is freezing now, even with 2T, this bios definitely seems more ... sensitive. BTW, holy thread!!! twelve HUNDRED posts?
Interestingly, 3DMark is freezing now, even with 2T, this bios definitely seems more ... sensitive. BTW, holy thread!!! twelve HUNDRED posts?You don't understand. Go learn more, then come back.
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Where can I stick a voltmeter to see what my vcore is?
I think he just didn't want to answer your question
No one really knows how high a particular CPU will overclock, but as a guess, you should be able to hit 2.3-2.4GHz easily with that CPU and this board on near-stock voltage. Any more than that, and you might possibly need to voltmod.
Okay, so I've got this Opty165 stable at 2.56GHz. Doesn't that essentially make it an Athlon X2 4800+ CPU? (a $650 cpu) I love this ASRock board! I've been running a 3D rendering suite in multi-threaded mode to really burn-in the CPU and see how much I can get out of it. So far, with ~95% CPU usage, the stock cooler gets up to 58°C, with a very noisy 4800RPM scream coming from the fan.
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