ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 - Socket 939 with PCI-E and real AGP and Socket AM2 upgrade path

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Araemo

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Originally posted by: Kromis

The Venice core can reach 2.7 GHz, but usually around 2.5 GHz

DDviper: what he said. My opty is running at 2.4(stock 1.8) on air in HOT AS HECK ambient temps. Just read the thread for the many gotchas on this board. It'll treat you right if you configure it right... it's just that a lot of the configuration requires trial and error or reading forums - the manual and bios help is horrible. ;P
 

ddviper

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another question, should i get an opteron 144/146? Im mainly looking to OC the hell outta the CPU i get so im wondering if i should go with the opteron.

The only thing is it is more expensive, but has a 1MB cache.
 

Araemo

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My sources say yes. It really comes down to price though. The 165 was cheaper than the X2 3800+ at many vendors for a while.

If you are looking to HUGELY overclock, avoid the 144/165, the 9x multiplier becomes limiting at nutso overclocks in many setups. Some people here have no issues running this board well over 300Mhz HTT, but I hit the 274 or whatever limit on my board(I AM still running the 1.5 Bios, but it's stable, so I'm not ****** with it.) which comes out to 24.66Ghz max. 274 x 10 is obviously noticeably higher. ;) But anything over about 2.5 would require another class of cooling in my system.

Depending on how adventurous you are though, the oc workbench bios hacks are supposedly great for overclocking(even well over 274-300+), but I wouldn't trust my main comp to an unsupported bios. Maybe if this was a throwaway comp, but I'm cautious that way. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Araemo
My sources say yes. It really comes down to price though. The 165 was cheaper than the X2 3800+ at many vendors for a while.

If you are looking to HUGELY overclock, avoid the 144/165, the 9x multiplier becomes limiting at nutso overclocks in many setups. Some people here have no issues running this board well over 300Mhz HTT, but I hit the 274 or whatever limit on my board(I AM still running the 1.5 Bios, but it's stable, so I'm not ****** with it.) which comes out to 24.66Ghz max. 274 x 10 is obviously noticeably higher. ;) But anything over about 2.5 would require another class of cooling in my system.

Depending on how adventurous you are though, the oc workbench bios hacks are supposedly great for overclocking(even well over 274-300+), but I wouldn't trust my main comp to an unsupported bios. Maybe if this was a throwaway comp, but I'm cautious that way. ;)

Just as a FYI in case you weren't aware, the "official" BIOS 1.8 (and presumably 1.9 too) also has the earlier "274 lock" overclocking limitations removed, if you didn't want to mess with unofficial/beta releases. :)
 

Araemo

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Araemo
My sources say yes. It really comes down to price though. The 165 was cheaper than the X2 3800+ at many vendors for a while.

If you are looking to HUGELY overclock, avoid the 144/165, the 9x multiplier becomes limiting at nutso overclocks in many setups. Some people here have no issues running this board well over 300Mhz HTT, but I hit the 274 or whatever limit on my board(I AM still running the 1.5 Bios, but it's stable, so I'm not ****** with it.) which comes out to 24.66Ghz max. 274 x 10 is obviously noticeably higher. ;) But anything over about 2.5 would require another class of cooling in my system.

Depending on how adventurous you are though, the oc workbench bios hacks are supposedly great for overclocking(even well over 274-300+), but I wouldn't trust my main comp to an unsupported bios. Maybe if this was a throwaway comp, but I'm cautious that way. ;)

Just as a FYI in case you weren't aware, the "official" BIOS 1.8 (and presumably 1.9 too) also has the earlier "274 lock" overclocking limitations removed, if you didn't want to mess with unofficial/beta releases. :)
I've only heard one person whos actually verified that, which isn't exactly a good sample size. ;P And like I said, 1.5 is stable for me, so I'm not touching it. ;P
 

Wi1z

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Anyone had any SATA issues?? (Bios 1.8)

I recently ditched my old system and decided to go for a brand new install on a SATA, old one was IDE. But just recently is BSOD mania,
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000f4
Googalicious mainly comes up with RAM errors or other hardware issues, changed ram, no different, ram in different slots, single sticks dual sticks all sorts, no difference. So I was getting freaked it could have been MB, before change that it'd been back to IDE drive on a fresh install. But I plopped the drive onto the SATA-II and so far it seems to be stable. Does this board have issues on STA controller being flakey? I have ULI 220 driver. Considered taking off ULI SATA driver? installing an older driver? Obviously for now I'll stick to SATA-II controller.

Only stuff on it Nvidia 91.28, SAV Corp 10.1, all updates, ULI 220, Oblivion, GRAW and Americas Army. Nero and Daemon Tools.
 
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Originally posted by: Wi1z
Anyone had any SATA issues?? (Bios 1.8)

I recently ditched my old system and decided to go for a brand new install on a SATA, old one was IDE. But just recently is BSOD mania,
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000f4
Googalicious mainly comes up with RAM errors or other hardware issues, changed ram, no different, ram in different slots, single sticks dual sticks all sorts, no difference. So I was getting freaked it could have been MB, before change that it'd been back to IDE drive on a fresh install. But I plopped the drive onto the SATA-II and so far it seems to be stable. Does this board have issues on STA controller being flakey? I have ULI 220 driver. Considered taking off ULI SATA driver? installing an older driver? Obviously for now I'll stick to SATA-II controller.

Only stuff on it Nvidia 91.28, SAV Corp 10.1, all updates, ULI 220, Oblivion, GRAW and Americas Army. Nero and Daemon Tools.

I'm using both the SATA and SATAII controllers on BIOS 1.8 (though I only have one real SATA drive on the SATAII, the drives on SATA1 are using adapters...). No problems here.
 

Wi1z

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Well its wierd, my system had been solid as a rock, no pun intended ;o) but I had one crash, thought nothing of it, blam, crash city, I tried the hdd in both SATA sockets, oh well, the SATA-II socket seems ok, its only a SATA-I drive, but better than going back to ye-oldie IDE :eek:) Maybe I'll build a new OS on the SATA as an experiment, see if a new virginal XP bongo's out, maybe stick X64 on..... thinking of X64 anyways... always tempting me :eek:) maybe the SATA just wanted a break, hopefully it isnt fried ;o)
 

Araemo

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A system crash always has the chance of causing HD corruption. Not necessarily file-level, as I've had NTFS corrupted to the point where XP barely loads, but all the files were intact.

Make sure you do a chkdsk on each of your partitions. I usually tell it to do them on boot up so that it takes care of everything at once.
 

Wi1z

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I have it 100% backed up, and yeah once NTFS loses the plot, bye bye XP. I suspected a hd error, paging error etc as I also had KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR, although that error is also usually a ram issue. So the bugs all seem to point to RAM. Anyways, I suspected a HDD page error, so I told it to do a 100% chkdsk /r /x on boot, it seemed to stall at certain points but who knows ;) I'm still tempted to go for X64..... I had resigned myself to a re-start from fresh, but all seems A-OK on SATA-II. I did also have a m5829 device didnt respond, also made me think it was HDD, but now I think that may have been the point when the SATA controller or something went nuts.
 

emilyek

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Earlier OCWB beta bioses and now the 1.8/1.9 official bioses remove the 274 fsb lock.

In the new bioses, Bypass Max and async latency have been replaced by Trc and ..um some other memory setting I forget the name of.

The max my board will do is 325 fsb, although some claim they can hit 400.
 

ricemanva

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I am having problems getting my new board to run in dual channel mode. No matter what my settings, it boots in single channel mode. I have tried all "Auto" settings, I have manually set settings to what CPU-Z reports, all with no change. CPU and video card are not overclocked - all stock settings. I have both dimms in the same bank, and tried both banks (blue and black).

Specs are below. Any help on detailed BIOS settings would be greatly appreciated.

ASRock 939DualSata2
Bios 1.90
Athlon 64 Venice 3000+
2x512 Corsair Value Select 2.5-3-3-8 PC3200 (link below)http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145026
EVGA 6600GT APG
Antec True Power 380 (in Sonata I case)

Thanks
 

WT

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Looking at upgrading from my current rock solid 1.20 BIOS but should I do a DOS BIOS update or Windows one ? I've read plenty of posts from both sides in this thread with no definitive conclusion, other than DOS is invariable safer to do. I have an Opty 144@2.4 and I am just too damn curious to see what it will do stock (cooling & voltages) for my own good. Its not my main rig, so I am being a bit more carefree at this point too. Getting 2.6 from it would be sufficient for me, but I want to do it right as well. Thanks in advance !
 

Araemo

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Ricemanva:

This is a complete shot in the dark - but it has caused memory to be detected at a lower size:
Make sure you set the AGP Aperture to a small value. You do not need to set it to the same size as your video card's ram, and this board seems to have issues if you set it too high (Though that may be fixed in newer bioses?)

If it detects the right amount of ram, but only operates in single channel mode, you could also try running memtest86 to make sure your ram is ok.
 

Wi1z

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Originally posted by: WT
Looking at upgrading from my current rock solid 1.20 BIOS but should I do a DOS BIOS update or Windows one ? I've read plenty of posts from both sides in this thread with no definitive conclusion, other than DOS is invariable safer to do. I have an Opty 144@2.4 and I am just too damn curious to see what it will do stock (cooling & voltages) for my own good. Its not my main rig, so I am being a bit more carefree at this point too. Getting 2.6 from it would be sufficient for me, but I want to do it right as well. Thanks in advance !

Updating a bios in windows just sounds plain wierd! I'm sure plenty of people do it asnd goes to plan perfectly, but me, maybe I'm an old fashioned kinda bloke, dos for bios updates.

other than DOS is invariable safer to do << you said it yourself :)

 

Araemo

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Originally posted by: Wi1z

other than DOS is invariable safer to do << you said it yourself :)

In GENERAL I agree with that. But with my luck with floppies I disagree. (Do you have any idea how many floppies I go through? They get used about once a year, and manage to go bad between writing data to them and trying to read it again 5 minutes later).

I do somewhat recommend having BartPE or something on a USB stick to flash from instead of trusting your normal everyday windows environment to flash.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: Wi1z
Anyone had any SATA issues?? (Bios 1.8)

I recently ditched my old system and decided to go for a brand new install on a SATA, old one was IDE. But just recently is BSOD mania,
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000f4
Googalicious mainly comes up with RAM errors or other hardware issues, changed ram, no different, ram in different slots, single sticks dual sticks all sorts, no difference. So I was getting freaked it could have been MB, before change that it'd been back to IDE drive on a fresh install. But I plopped the drive onto the SATA-II and so far it seems to be stable. Does this board have issues on STA controller being flakey? I have ULI 220 driver. Considered taking off ULI SATA driver? installing an older driver? Obviously for now I'll stick to SATA-II controller.

Only stuff on it Nvidia 91.28, SAV Corp 10.1, all updates, ULI 220, Oblivion, GRAW and Americas Army. Nero and Daemon Tools.


Yes.

Search for ASsrock and that'll point you to a very enticing thread about disatisfaction about the quality of SATA ports on a certain POS revision and batch.
 

WT

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So I flashed the board to 1.80, set the HTT to 300 even and away we gooo !! It booted into Windows at 2.7, ran for about 15 minutes until the screensaver kicked in, then errored out on the screensaver. I am going to try and set the NB and SB to 600 if it craps out again. Currently running 3Dmark to make it break a sweat, but I'm not stable to the point I like yet, but for an Opty 144 to run at 2.7 with no mods at all it quite nice, if I do say so myself.
 

EKTELESTES

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guys, the 2.10 bios ur talkin about, IS NOT in the official download page in Asrock website anymore...why's that?? did it have any probs???

 
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Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
guys, the 2.10 bios ur talkin about, IS NOT in the official download page in Asrock website anymore...why's that?? did it have any probs???

Hmm...interesting. I guess it must have had problems for them to have pulled it. It doesn't matter too much to me either way...I'm still on 1.80 which has great overclocking performance; newer releases seem to have only really addressed AM2 issues, which don't apply to me and probably never will...:p