ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 and Athlon 64 X2 3800+

[JM Aggie08]

My plans recently were to purchase the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 and X2 3800+, but i was then warned by a source that this combo may not work (for what reason i may not know)

Could there be any risks?

Are there any flaws in doing this?

Better Yet, does anyone have similiar experience in combining these two?


ASRock 939Dual-SATA2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157081

X2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

 

[SynthDude2001]

Check out my obscenely huge thread on the board and do a "search these messages" for X2 3800+...you'll see that there are several people running that CPU on that motherboard successfully.

 

[hclarkjr]

i am running a X2 4200 on that motherboard with no problem at all. the only warning i can give you is watch what memory you are going to use as their is a problem with certain double sided memory modules and the 1T command rate

 

[Canterwood]

I'm running an Opty 170 on this board. Previously an X2 4400+

The board is dual core ready anyway.

 

[JM Aggie08]

thats great new, i cant wait to get it then. Are there any certain brands of mem other than the above description that i should stay away from hclarkjr? For now i am going to be using just pc3200, until i can cough up the extra dough.

 

[JM Aggie08]

o and btw, what have you OC'd it to?

 

[robertk2012]

I would not get that board if you are planning on overclocking. Go with a DFI Infinity if your on a budget.

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
I would not get that board if you are planning on overclocking. Go with a DFI Infinity if your on a budget.

What do you mean by that?
That it doesnt overclock good?
Hell, I guess you have not read my thread. I am waiting for the best of DFI to coe and challenge my overclocking on this Asrock board. Guess what, there is none.
You think DFI infinity overclocks better than this Asrock?
you most be kidding right?
Or are you just one of those.......

Edit: I have overclocked my opteron 146 to 2.98 stable w/ stock HSF
Screenshot
I also am using Venice 3000 24/7 > 2.8ghz prime stable
Screenshot
So I dont know where you got your info.
check this Link
you will see more tha 1000 posts about overclocking this mobo.
Lots of different AMD's, from A64 3000 to A64 4000, to A64 x2 and Opteron 144, 146, 148, 165, and 170, 175. you name it. So what was it that you were saying.

 

[JC]

I've been running my 3800+ at 2.5 since the first boot on one of those boards.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: robertk2012
I would not get that board if you are planning on overclocking. Go with a DFI Infinity if your on a budget.

What do you mean by that?
That it doesnt overclock good?
Hell, I guess you have not read my thread. I am waiting for the best of DFI to coe and challenge my overclocking on this Asrock board. Guess what, there is none.
You think DFI infinity overclocks better than this Asrock?
you most be kidding right?
Or are you just one of those.......

Thats exactly what i mean. So what is the great overclock that you have with this asrock? Do you know what the voltage limit is on this great board? Or what the average HTT is?

 

[robertk2012]

Ill answer my own questions. The newest bioses will not let you go above 274 mhz HT. So to get above that you must use a different firmware.

Vcore is 1.4 for dual core processors without modding.

That sounds like a great board.

The DFI infinity is just a few bucks more and will handle pretty much any overclock you can throw at it without bios flashing or modding.

 

[designit]

Oh, Ba. hmm bak.
a child can use conductive paint the board inside the case.
I was able to overclock Venice 3000 to 270 w/ 1.4 v.
I have shown you screenshots that no DFI can do.
The clockGen has listed this board in the Data base, and there is a thread in the link I provided that shows w/ clockGen you can overclock Asrock bios(1.50 and all others) at any FSB/HTT.
Before blowing smoke, I suggest you read those links first.
So you want another pour soul join the NF4 and DFI bugs.
Why don?t you tell him/her about more than 10,000 posts in DFI street complaining about the DFI/Nvedia bugs that all DFI's are plagued with.
Do you know why Nvedia bought ULi (this board's ULi 1695 chipset), because they are revising Nvedia chips w/ ULi chips to get rid for their famous bug.
Or are you hiding this fact too?

To the poster who is interested in Asrock Uli 1695 chipset.
Do your search about DFI/Nvedia, and this board/Uli chipset, and then decide.
Dont listen to fenatics.
I did my serach and end up buying this board that does much better than an Nvedia counterpart costing twice or more.

 

[robertk2012]

Lol are you saying that the DFI wont get past 270? Shows how much you know. Almost all of even the low end infinities will make it well over 300.

There are plenty of "poor souls" that visit this very forum and would say the same thing I am. Im not sure how you can say im a "fenatic"....all I did was state facts. You were the one hiding the fact that you have to mod your board(which voids your warranty) and use workarounds for overclcoking.

Where is this challenge thread of yours because I know many people with DFI boards that would destroy your numbers.

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
Lol are you saying that the DFI wont get past 270? Shows how much you know. Almost all of even the low end infinities will make it well over 300.

There are plenty of "poor souls" that visit this very forum and would say the same thing I am. Im not sure how you can say im a "fenatic"....all I did was state facts. You were the one hiding the fact that you have to mod your board(which voids your warranty) and use workarounds for overclcoking.

Where is this challenge thread of yours because I know many people with DFI boards that would destroy your numbers.

No I am saying 62% overclocked over stock at a lower multi
like This

Besides, his/her OP is "ASrock" interest. If he/she wanted a DFI, he/she would have said "DFI".
So please, if you have nothing productive to offer on the board he/she is interested, just move on to next forum, or thread that you can produce some positive feedback.
You don?t even own an Asrock board, I don?t think, and that makes you unqualified to make any suggestion about the poster's need.
You know what I mean? Thanks

EDIT: The poster said nothing about overclocking. you brought it up and I was replying to you to set thing straight.
Everone knows about the lack of vcore (if you look at newegg reviews or here AT's review) so I wasnt hiding anything.
I will post a link for you to show you the board will overclock decently w/ stock vcore.
that is if the poster is interested in overclocking.
Proof

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: robertk2012
Lol are you saying that the DFI wont get past 270? Shows how much you know. Almost all of even the low end infinities will make it well over 300.

There are plenty of "poor souls" that visit this very forum and would say the same thing I am. Im not sure how you can say im a "fenatic"....all I did was state facts. You were the one hiding the fact that you have to mod your board(which voids your warranty) and use workarounds for overclcoking.

Where is this challenge thread of yours because I know many people with DFI boards that would destroy your numbers.

No I am saying 62% overclocked over stock at a lower multi
like This

Besides, his/her OP is "ASrock" interest. If he/she wanted a DFI, he/she would have said "DFI".
So please, if you have nothing productive to offer on the board he/she is interested, just move on to next forum, or thread that you can produce some positive feedback.
You don?t even own an Asrock board, I don?t think, and that makes you unqualified to make any suggestion about the poster's need.
You know what I mean? Thanks

I am offering something productive but your just avoiding the issues such as voiding the warranty to increase the vcore above 1.4.

I have a buddy who is using an Asrock board because he needed an agp slot. Its a solid board but I would find something else if you want to overclock. If your only going to bump it up a little then by all means go for this board. Just be aware of its downfalls. And your the fanatic if you believe there are no issues with this board.

 

[JM Aggie08]

I've heard DFI has gad many other bugs as well, such as the LAN just going out or not working.

Plus, there will always be minor things wrong with any board, you cant name one that has not failed or dosent have a bug in any aspect of itself.

Everything i have heard about the ASRock board leans me towards buying it, and further more, designit's awesome OC makes me even jumpier on ordering this thing, but please keep going with this debate, i am getting more out of it, truely

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
I've heard DFI has gad many other bugs as well, such as the LAN just going out or not working.

Plus, there will always be minor things wrong with any board, you cant name one that has not failed or dosent have a bug in any aspect of itself.

Everything i have heard about the ASRock board leans me towards buying it, and further more, designit's awesome OC makes me even jumpier on ordering this thing, but please keep going with this debate, i am getting more out of it, truely

Dont buy a board because of one persons overclock. That is never a good idea. This is a solid board but like I said before...if you are serious about overclocking you will have to void the warranty and you will have limited bios options.

You might want to change the title to something such as asrock vs. DFI infinity that way youll get a broader base of users.

Most of the bugs that you hear of never affect the average user. There was a problem with NF4 boards corrupting data but it was do to the NCQ on SATA drives. (come to find out it was a wester digital problem for which there has been a new firmware release) There is no benifit for the average person to even use NCQ and it will actually decrease performance in most cases.

With the 3800 you will not need to reach a very high ht for a good overclock. 274 gives you 2.7 ghz. A 165 such as mine is a different story as it has a 9x multiplier. The important things to consider when choosing your board will be the voltage (Cpu and Memory) and divider options.

 

[JM Aggie08]

i never really wanted a DFI vs. ASRock thread in the first place, and i know what you are trying to say.

thing is, this board is what i need, not only because i heard of several good overclocks, but because i also need the agp and pci-e capabilities.

i am not in the mood to go and spend another $400 on a video card thats pci-e.

im not wanting the best, ideally ya, i would, but i dont have that money on me.

and furthermore, if i did want to go and upgrade everything, yes i would go with a DFI board most likely, because they are built to overclock.

 

[robertk2012]

If you need the agp slot then definately go with this board. That is unless you want to pick up a 7900 gt for around $270?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: robertk2012
If you need the agp slot then definately go with this board. That is unless you want to pick up a 7900 gt for around $270?

Not everyone can throw down $600-700 for a combined CPU/GPU/motherboard upgrade at one time. I know I can't.

As for all the childish bickering in this thread over the board's OC abilities - I thought I'd walked into the Video forum or P&N or something. No one should be assuming or claiming that this $65 value board has all the same overclocking controls as a $150-200 DFI board. However, once you do a simple voltmod on this board (which I'll probably end up doing for the OP of this thread since I know him ), you can get 1.55V Vcore easily. That's plenty for a 2.6-2.8GHz overclock (more if you're lucky) on just about any recent AMD CPU. Of course you'll be voiding the board's warranty, but is it really that big of an issue to void the warranty of a $65 motherboard when you're going to be technically voiding the warranty of your $300 CPU in doing any overclocking anyway?... As long as you have a 10x+ multiplier CPU (which my Opty 170 is, and which the X2 3800+ is), you don't really have to worry about the 274 issue. And even if you have something like an Opty 165, you can easily enough run an OCW beta BIOS to be able to use 300MHz or higher HTT speed. No, it's not perfect (cold/warm boot issues), but it can work well enough.

Bottom line...are there better overclocking boards out there? Of course, it would be naive to assume otherwise. But I have no problem recommending this board to others who look to be in a position to make best use out of it, and with the OP of this thread needing AGP support, as far as I'm concerned it's pretty much the best choice out there for AGP (without forgoing a PCI-E upgrade path like you would with Nforce3 or comparable chipsets).

 

[imported_Imp]

I have this board, but don't overclock. However, I can comment on its stability. This board MAY have issues with the SATAI and SATAII ports (mostly people with revision 1.04, may be a REALLY bad batch, so try to steer clear of that revision if you can). The cold boot issue is there, common and recurring for many. Although, a LOT of people do get it to run really well (I finally did after two months). For AGP functionality, this is your best bet, but read up on the potential problems this board has.

I suggest you go to OCWorkbench, they have a whole forum dedicated to ASsRock boards with lots concerning the Dual-SATA2.

 

[designit]

Dont listen to this poster, he's been posting for the past 4-5 months bad mouthing Asrock.
just last week came to find out he has fryed his board(un-intentionally, and may never know how he did it).
I have that revision and overclocks just great-stable as a my house's concrete foundation.
There are those who can't even fry an egg, but expert in frying their mobo/system, and blame it on others.
This poster never posts anything positive about anything.
Feel sorry for these kind of people.

 

[JM Aggie08]

anyone else got an opinion on this?

 

[Quino]

I am using 2 of these boards and they are great. I am limited by the cpus and not the board. One is a winchester 3000 oc to 2.47 gigs at stock voltage and the other is a 3400 venice oc to 2.64 with 1.5v (board has a vmod). I also had a DFI LI-D that I sold because I got the same oc on both chips (great board but too much money for features I never use at all).